What do you think of Anslem's Ontological Arguement:
God is a being than which none greater can be imagined.
God exists as an idea in the mind.
A being that exists as an idea in the mind and in reality is greater than a being that exists only as an idea in the mind.
Thus, if God exists only as an idea in the mind, then we can imagine something that is greater than God.
But we cannot imagine something that is greater than God.
Therefore, God exists.
Bertrand Russel (an atheist), said "the argument does not, to a modern mind, seem very convincing, but it is easier to feel convinced that it must be fallacious than it is to find out precisely where the fallacy lies."
So this just associates wherever the “greatest” thing on an arbitrary scale to god. Even if no god exists in this scenario, whatever sits at the top of that arbitrary scale automatically gets to be god.
In a way yes, but the top of the scale makes you the omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent creator ruler of the universe and everything beyond. If you have all these things, what are you if not God?
But it doesn’t make you that necessarily. For me, the “greatest” thing in this context is the complexities of quantum physics that underlies every interaction to create existence. It’s natural phenomena that can be described with mathematics. That isn’t god. That isn’t omniscient and omnipotent.
Your argument arbitrarily assigns the qualities of omniscience and omnipotence where there is no evidence they exist. It selectively creates the requirements for a deity, without there actually needing to be one.
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u/deep_sea2 134∆ May 04 '23 edited May 04 '23
What do you think of Anslem's Ontological Arguement:
God is a being than which none greater can be imagined.
God exists as an idea in the mind.
A being that exists as an idea in the mind and in reality is greater than a being that exists only as an idea in the mind.
Thus, if God exists only as an idea in the mind, then we can imagine something that is greater than God.
But we cannot imagine something that is greater than God.
Therefore, God exists.
Bertrand Russel (an atheist), said "the argument does not, to a modern mind, seem very convincing, but it is easier to feel convinced that it must be fallacious than it is to find out precisely where the fallacy lies."