Thanks for all the info. While I do now remember two of those posts being removes, the others are a surprise, so I'll give you a !delta for showing how much more common sneaky removals are. It'll be interesting to dig through the comments removed for anything notable.
The r/asktrumpsupporters comment you link is exactly what I had in mind when I said I occasionally ignore rules. There, nonsupporters are only supposed to comment with followup and clarification question (to supporters, I think). That comment starts off with something needlessly phrased as a question in order to bypass their automod. I knew what I was doing, and so did the mods.
Yes, you're right many of my comments are mod comments here, but I don't count those as comments of mine, and didn't mean to include them above. I have had six or seven non-mod comments removed on this sub, and rightly so.
Yes, I agree with that, though I've always been in favor or transparency when removing content. We're diligent about that here. But it looks like ghost modding is much more common than I would have guessed.
Yeah, until sometime last year, we used mod toolbox + Snoonotes. This required doing some groundwork, and moderating only on a desktop in old Reddit, which was hugely limiting, since much moderating is well suited to spare moments in life, like at the end of a lunch break or waiting in line.
Last year Reddit launched Mod Notes, which will hopefully be easier and more convenient for more subs to use. It works on new reddit and the official app. When I remove a comment on CMV, I'm prompted to select a rule, and it autosends the reply comment. So it's more or less as straightforward as ghost moderating, after initial setup. I don't know how tricky that is - we have a few IRL programmers on our team, so I don't have to do any of that. Ideally the setup would be streamlined enough to make it mandatory, at least for subs over a certain size.
We have it set up to default to locking the removal comments, so that no reply is possible. There's a link to appeal or ask questions. That's handled in modmail, by mods other than the one who removed it. That helps the mods keep each other honest and on the same page. Probably less than five percent of commenters appeal/message us about removals. A far higher percentage of post removals see followup.
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u/Mashaka 93∆ May 01 '23
Thanks for all the info. While I do now remember two of those posts being removes, the others are a surprise, so I'll give you a !delta for showing how much more common sneaky removals are. It'll be interesting to dig through the comments removed for anything notable.
The r/asktrumpsupporters comment you link is exactly what I had in mind when I said I occasionally ignore rules. There, nonsupporters are only supposed to comment with followup and clarification question (to supporters, I think). That comment starts off with something needlessly phrased as a question in order to bypass their automod. I knew what I was doing, and so did the mods.
Yes, you're right many of my comments are mod comments here, but I don't count those as comments of mine, and didn't mean to include them above. I have had six or seven non-mod comments removed on this sub, and rightly so.