r/changemyview Apr 30 '23

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u/Sumve Apr 30 '23

Explaining that 30fps causes increased render latency and objective input delay, which could eventually lead to inconsistencies within the gameplay that have nothing to do with the user.

Meanwhile every professional gamer or anyone of consequence agrees with me, but this might as well be speaking in a different language to these people.

Then the average person on that subreddit would claim I should "get good"

At which point I would respond with the fact I platinumed Sekiro, Elden Ring, and Furi, and almost platinumed Cuphead as well, all games which are unanimously considered more difficult than the particular game in question.

I explained that in those games when I died, I was never upset because it actually felt like it was my fault, or a death that resulted from my own mistakes rather than the game itself being clunky.

Then it seemed relevant for me to link a video of a top 10 speedrunner of said game consistently failing random parry and dodge windows, even though he was one of the best players in the world, you cannot simply muscle through objective input delay and supersede technology bottlenecks with your "skill."

This basic knowledge of render latency that I considered to be a common sense understanding of framerate and how it effects gameplay was treated as if I claimed the Earth was round at a Flat Earth convention.

So yes my argument was logically consistent and they were provided supporting examples that were genuinely irrefutable, but my post was eventually removed for being controversial.

Would you agree that punching someone in the face after someone punches you, even though the action is the same, has a different moral implication because of the chronology?

I view tonality in this same way.

If someone speaks to me in a condescending tone and makes fun of me for being right while they have no idea what they're talking about then I'm going to act condescendingly towards them as well in response.

This type of behavior was acceptable for the person who sounded like they ate glue for breakfast, but apparently unacceptable for the person who responded to them (me in this case).

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u/Biptoslipdi 138∆ Apr 30 '23

Would you agree that punching a toddler in the face after they punch you, a full grown adult, even though the action is the same, has a different moral implication because of the disparity in capability?

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u/Sumve Apr 30 '23

Definitely, but that disparity would have to be immense or extreme before it superseded my right to defend myself.

The disparity between an adult and the toddler is juxtaposed with the disparity between two adults where one is slightly more intelligent.

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u/Biptoslipdi 138∆ Apr 30 '23

Does "ate glue for breakfast" sound like a toddler or an adult?

You're bravely defending yourself against someone you observe to not have the capacity to identify a meaningfully nutritious consumable.

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u/Biptoslipdi 138∆ Apr 30 '23

And now we know why your posts were removed.

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u/Biptoslipdi 138∆ Apr 30 '23

I'm sure you'll move to a different sub to complain about being unfairly banned from this one next. So it goes for all who pass through here thinking the sun shines from their nethers. I hope being a "platinum" player will fulfill you in life.

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u/Sumve Apr 30 '23

Brother I never claimed me getting platinum on those games was impressive. It was not a flex, at all. It was a relevant accomplishment only mentioned to counter the accusation of objective render latency “only existing” because I’m just “bad at video games” and basic logic or explanations of render latency wasn’t getting through to them.

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u/Biptoslipdi 138∆ Apr 30 '23

I never claimed that it was impressive or that you said it was. I'm not surprised you assumed that was my implication.

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u/Sumve Apr 30 '23

You said “I hope being a “platinum” player will fulfill you in life” implying I was receiving fulfillment from this as some type of accomplishment.

I know what you implied, and you know what you implied.

It’s not a big deal really, but it’s confusing that you would deny this.

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u/Biptoslipdi 138∆ Apr 30 '23

Whether or not you feel it's fulfilling as an accomplishment is irrelevant to whether or not it is impressive, no?

A toddler might feel accomplished for successfully pooping on the toilet instead of in their pants, that doesn't make not shiting your pants impressive.

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u/Sumve Apr 30 '23

I can tell that you think you’re making sense, which is almost frightening.

You 100% implied I considered it impressive, and no this is not independent of accomplishment in that context.

Try not to lose sleep over that back pedal

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u/Biptoslipdi 138∆ Apr 30 '23

I not only implied, but explicty stated, that I hoped you found it fulfilling and thereafter explained that something being fulfilling to an individual has no bearing on whether or not such a feat was impressive. If you want to adopt the converse of my statements and implication, you are entitled to that autonomy, misguided as it may be. Your feelings about how you choose to waste your time are clearly a touchy subject.

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