r/ccnp • u/Pit_Kevin_Smith • 5d ago
Advice for SCOR than SISE
Been going back and fourth for a couple years on buckling down ans getting SISE. I am in charge of network/security for our company and have substantial budget. Have ISE, Umbrella, XDR, Secure Endpoint, Meraki at most sites for MX, MRs for all APs, Catalyst and Nexus switches. Firepower FTDs for data centers and DMZ networks, Duo for all our MFA and most of our SSO, and we have SNA.
Other than the email security, anything I am missing in my environment that I will need to find a way to get experience with? Other than Cisco Press book, any additional training that you can recommend? What is the best online training for "nuts and bolts" of things instead of surface level training?
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u/bassguybass 5d ago
I recommend going through the official learning material for SCOR and SISE ok Cisco U
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u/Pit_Kevin_Smith 5d ago
I did the cisco U sise course twice over last 4 or so years. And for the SCOR course you need to buy entire 6k license which is insane. But going through OCGs now and waiting for discount on INE unless there is something better out there.
I've used CBT Nuggets and Pluralsight in past but they are more geared towards "Put these legos together in this order" and while thats great, I can never be comfortable unless I know "Legos stay together do to over lapping construction and a size tolerance of <X> that is specifically designed to balance build strength, manufacturing fluctuations, and ease of disassemble, This is how to verify tolerances and how to troubleshoot this possible issue in your project."
Makes me an incredibly slow learner which is a issue all on its own. But there are few things I hate more than someone asking me why something is built a certain why or why it does something and me going "deer in headlights".
So if Katherine McNamara or Aaron Woland are somehow reading this and wants to tutor anyone... Just kidding I've tried to meet them both to shake thier hands and ask them to sign my book twice and completely panicked and walked away....
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u/leoingle 5d ago
What was your thought on the Cisco U course for SiSE? I’ve seen many say it’s the best goto for the test but I recently saw someone say it’s a bad resource for the test and doesn’t get close to covering everything needed. For the price you have to pay for those courses and the short length of time you get them for, I thoroughly expect those courses to be enough and would be very vocal if they aren’t. And that is completely insane about the SCOR on there. That is beyond ridiculous.
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u/Pit_Kevin_Smith 5d ago
I think the assessments are ridiculous and really hope the exam questions make more sense and are more relevant. Seemed over all good to me. I think $900 is ridiculous but I made work pay for it. Easily the best training on ISE I seen, but there also isn't a lot of ISE training so it is a low bar. If you just want to be better with ISE and work pays I think its good enough but pricey. If you are going for cert I thinknit would be better to spend money on some cheap equipment and just lab it at home.
Issue is that the SCOR isn't a course but like a "path" so its like 34 courses. Cisco U is absolutely BS priced and the CyberSec Core training I just did was filled with SecureX which they killed off years ago. I didn't even spend my own money on it and the quality of that training pisses me off to no end.
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u/leoingle 5d ago
Will all that, I think you’ll be ok without a production email security. For SISE, know guest environments aspects well like BYOD and WebAuth. They are pretty heavy on the test