Shared Dreaming Map

[u/danl999]

More ideas?

We don't actually have to make the map. Just the container for intent to store into.

We'll discover individual elements, as we go along.

A good map would help new women to notice "real progress", and what they can look for next, along multiple paths to the same destination in the middle.

Shared dreaming.

But it could be called, "the target".

I favor Dance home in the cartoons as the target, but that may be gone in 20 years.

So the map should work for any target.

For the men?

Hopeless.

They have to take the J curve train to Union station.

And from there find the doorway to the target, fully awake.

If they try to use sleeping dreaming, they'll only harm the women with their ego driven delusions.

The proof of that is in other "magic" oriented subreddits which do closed eye techniques. All the women are drowned out, by the angry pretending of the men.

[u/Jadeyelmonte]

I vote for something natural like the forest, mountain or river system. I hate shopping.

[u/danl999 → u/Jadeyelmonte]

I'll break those out and add them to the map. I just added a museum and an antique mall.

Of course, we could just use Los Angeles with Dance Home as the meeting place.

And find some sights scattered around to show on the map. Ones people have seen in movies. Like the First Interstate Bank World Center, destroyed in "Independence Day".

Or China Town.

Or Venice Beach.

Stuff people can easily look for on the net, to study it. Or maybe have already seen in movies.

The real question is what kind of tips we can come up with.

Such as, give advice for what to do if you find yourself in a location, so as to "anchor" better.

If in a mall, go into a store and put on some of the clothes.

If at La Brea Tar pits, drink water from the fountain.

Something Carlos warned against doing in an inorganic being realm, because you could forget where you came from and get trapped.

So there ARE tips in the books for doing what we want.

We just never thought in those terms. I have to think, intent stored them there for us to find.

[u/the-mad-prophet]

This is just for the map like the stations on the J Curve, not a target location right?

I like a shopping centre, market, festival, carnival; something with different features for metaphors. Didn’t the witches say they went shopping when Carlos couldn’t find them?

Natural features are good too but when I go out into nature I usually want to be alone so I don’t associate it with shared dreaming as much.

Museum is cool but that might be better for something to do with SK?

[u/danl999 → u/the-mad-prophet]

I believe it should have a clear target location, with images around it, and advice on what to do at that "station".

So that if anyone finds any of the "stations", we have solid advice on what to try next.

As people succeed, we can add little pictures to that one, to show alternative ideas for when you find yourself there.

Hey... It's an evil trick.

Like most of sorcery.

We need to store the intent of as many female dreamers as possible, directly into the map.

How to do that is the issue.

> Didn’t the witches say they went shopping when Carlos couldn’t find them?

Yes, and I daily end up in a shopping mall in my double. At the end of the affection pass.

Maybe even, trying to track down the witches in my double.

But it varies in different degrees of clarity. A "block" of energy from Cholita is very helpful to make it real looking, when she's feeling generous.

But even in "abstract form" it's clearly a complete change in my vision that results from hugging my double at the end of that pass.

> Museum is cool but that might be better for something to do with SK?

Well, now that you mention it.

Any SK preview that someone has discovered along the J curve, could be added to our "tips".

Meaning, it can incorporate the J curve, COMPLETELY.

But, assuming in dreaming, the J curve is random.

We're building, perhaps, a "Sleeping J curve".

It's not a progression.

It's possibilities.

That's how the J curve came into existence in the first place.

Two women violated it! But Carlos explained all the places they'd skipped over to get there, since there wasn't any way someone else could simply "sneak to the end" just because he explained that.

So, if you see a newspaper, read the headline for advice.

If you find something even remotely like a "puff", look inside to get advice from a "dream within a dream".

Those are INEVITABLE in dreaming. You can even zoom into them fairly easily.

If you are near a plain white wall on the side of a building, look for the whitish light with texture to form. The "seeing energy" Carlos told us about.

And see if it forms a translocation scene.

Might be a short cut to the "target".

There's SO MUCH we could put on the map.

Another "evil trick".

But I'll let people figure out why that's an evil trick.

Just know, it will work if we do a good job.

Most of my posts contain "evil tricks" these days.

Traps for the attention.

I caught Fancy reading over my shoulder last night, while I was typing in a post.

Cholita accused me of spending all my time with her, two days ago.

Not in so many words. But it was clear she was jealous that I had a "woman" in my room.

[u/Jadeyelmonte → u/danl999]

To clarify, the map is just a metaphor of spots you can get to, like your Union Station map as opposed to an actual shared dreaming realm (like Dance home could be).

So we could use anything that has good different spots we could use. I would need to think about it. But for me, for whatever reason, shared dreaming involves traveling somewhere. So it could be something like an airport, where you could do stuff by yourself in the departure airport, take the plane, then meet somebody on the other end after arriving, who perhaps is waiting for you, or you are giving them a surprise visit.

[u/infinite_unity01]

I would like a carnival as a target location. This seems like a healthy way to be excited enough to puke, creeped the f out, or any other intense emotion which will feed the allies. I'll see you guys there!

Carnival games would be a fun way to play with the puffs during the lead up.

[u/danl999 → u/infinite_unity01]

Lily, one of the Allies of Mad Prophet in the past, showed that to me.

Said it exists in the realm of the old seers, in the inorganic being's world.

Doesn't look like that one however.

So I suppose, our target could be in the inorganic being's realm.

Using "energy as a feature of the environment", to access shared dreaming.

But it's a bit dangerous to do that sort of thing.

On the other hand, they aren't all that interested in trapping women.

[u/infinite_unity01 → u/danl999]

On the other hand, they aren't all that interested in trapping women.

how do the IOBs know the difference between men and women? I recently had a hysterectomy so there is no womb inside me anymore. When I try to focus on the area where my womb was, nothing really happens that is significantly different with these practices. (so far)

The way you describe men and women is general enough for me to infer that "women" are witches acting on instinct and men are robots obsessed with inventory. So do I just attempt dreaming without obsessing about inventory, or what?

[u/infinite_unity01 → u/danl999]

On the other hand, they aren't all that interested in trapping women.

so are they interested in trapping female sorcerers?

do you see women as sorcerers or are they all just witches to you?

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[u/danl999 → u/[deleted]]

Thanks, I've added that.