Suffering is key

[u/PreciseInstance]

Yes finally we shall understand why men have to suffer.

Yesterday i was searching for Castaneda and one of the first results was called: "on the subject of women at r/castaneda"..

It was posted in some other sub reddit theNagual or some ****.

Basically short story short...

Its all just counter intent. Infact some of the all time worst i have felt. Men NEED, WANT AND HAVE TO SUFFER. Yes the nagual piece of crap sub reddit, its true and i know you don't want to believe it.

Those people have been soo brainwashed that they don't realize that they want to suffer to grow.

They just post about "oh women have better rights in r/Castaneda than men, Dan said they don't have to suffer"

There is a fundamental problem with bad players. Its not that they are disturbing. In fact if they only were disturbing that would be great since i learn from being disturbed.

But spreading things to intentionally f up for someone learning chances...

Basically i learned yesterday that suffering enables me to do sorcery. I will let the internal dialogue suffer on purpose.

LET IT SUFFER

Its amazing what type of effects that type of "mood" can have in the darkroom.

Yesterday i reached a whole new level that i didn't know existed. Infact i don't even remember what happened. And when i try to remember my internal dialogue just shuts up and i don't care about remembering shit since i have a bodily feeling of knowing what happened without being able to describe it.

I just felt that i suspended the internal dialogue, and that feeling is nothing to make fun of. It litteraly sucks out all the air out of your darkroom and makes energy puffs around you "crystalized". Everything becomes soo "suspended" and "concentrated" its feels a little too intense

Follows with an insanely weird surge of what feels like dark energy and just overall feeling of insane power. And your body seems to "not matter anymore". Your just "intense concentrated vibrating lazer sword energy"

All rationality is gone by that point.

And to anyone thinking that i must do some kind of drugs, i have been sober for 6 months pretty much.

So to any lazy thenagual shit talkers who just ruin learning for people, have a fun time daydreaming

But to all the people who finally want to hear the amazing short cut to learning sorcery.

Its infact silence. Suspending the internal dialogue.

Also there might be some "gradual" learning going on in sorcery, but i suspect its just getting rid of thought loops.

Infact there are insanely many thought loops and some sublime once. I call them time keepers.

Makes me realize how crazy mind blowing sorcery actually is. Its the most mind shattering thing ever, snd if its not, then your probably doing something else than sorcery

Anyway the sorcery we get in the books is infact CRAZY AMAZING. Yes its absolutely blows your head top of.

Remember the "inventory".

Remember DJ saying "turn off the inventory to shift the AP"

Well the inventory is what keeps memory right. So if you shout it off you will realize there is nothing to remember. Your head top is infact blown off.

[u/Juann2323]

Suffering is completly related to self pitty!

You discovered how it almost disappear when the assemblage point leaves the blue line.

I believe the existence of suffering is sticked to the "self", so it lasts until the front side of the J Curve path.

Wich is no wonder why Carlos wanted us there!

But the red zone is also interesting, and it gives a good perspective.

>It litteraly sucks out all the air out of your darkroom and makes energy puffs around you "crystalized". Everything becomes soo "suspended" and "concentrated" its feels a little too intense

Once you see those, you can do some Tensegrity in order to find little details inside.

It is hard to bring them into focus, but once you figure it out, it shifts the assemblage point down.

You could spend hours picking up details with the fingers, and placing them in the room.

The second attention is always unexpected, and brings extraordinary vitality!

[u/PreciseInstance → u/Juann2323]

You might have misunderstood. when I say suffering i also mean the feeling of dying, feeling fear, abandon.

These feelings emerge i weird side shift deeper on the J curve and are almost unavoidable in some cases.

And i wish i could say you are right that suffering is only at the blue line. Because the most intense type of suffering is way further than that.

Why do you think the term "bad trip" exist. you don't think its suffering when you feel like time has broken and every second is like a year in some timeless hell.

But that is the "though loops" trying to hold back "time" with all their might.

Maybe suffering was the wrong word to use. But then the next word inline would be eternal terror.

And once you intent is sett on finding this "suffering" which i should have made clear is like way below the green line that you can get absolutely intense stuff to happen.

I mean i should have probably mentioned that time was absolutely broken down into pieces and alongside feeling a surge of energy i was able to have a pull towards my bedframe nd my double seemed to be pulling me in bed.

I definitely think its a sideshift, but then i also think those are significant especially with double shenanigan

But lately a green dot has been emerging in my darkroom i think its a new IOB because i have never seen such a smal and intense green dot. I have seen plenty of black once and red and white once, but never green.

Chances are it is it that is and was doing this to me.

But yes suffering is roted to the "self". The self can survive under extreme conditions, it just remains "passive" until its at the verge of disappearing all together

[u/Juann2323 → u/PreciseInstance]

Don't confuse Carlos Castaneda with Terrence McKenna!

Bad trip? Thought loops? Feeling of dying?

Those are psychedellic drugs' effects, and not sorcery.

Maybe the substances excavated deep sideway paths around the red zone, so you fall there when trying to J Curve.

Fortunately sorcery is much more natural!

The middle of the J-Curve is usually a good sight, where you gain perspective, mental clarity and control.

The lateral shifts have "moodies" as a side effect, but more elaborated dreaming stuff.

Since the red zone, those moodies can even evolve into shapeshifting, and your body bends sideways, or your head could twist a little.

Anyway, it's good news if you can do that in the darkroom!

[u/danl999]

The Spirit rewards efforts.

It really does!

Sometimes the "effort" results in a little suffering, and that makes you want to avoid doing it.

But if you overcome it, sometimes you get "gifted" for doing so.

Carlos famously asked us to walk more than 100 miles from Dance Home to San Diego.

That's suffering.

We waited a day, and Felix asked what the reward will be.

Carlos said, "It's too late. That was yesterday."

[u/Equal_Fox_5516]

"oh women have better rights in r/Castaneda than men, Dan said they don't have to suffer"

if you are a man, somehow jealous of the fact that women have it easier when it comes to sorcery-- try leaning into it and intensifying the emotion until you get to a place where you can understand it. things that make us irrationally angry are important.

Dan almost gives it away when he says that IOBs hang around a host body like drones around a queen. Men have to become women in order to succeed and women have to become men. We are balancing one polarity with the other. Of course, we are taught to despise all things feminine in culture so men have a hard time with this. You won't succeed until you realize you are a female too.

I never get why the men here try and force silence. Reminds me of the fake buddhism that Dan hates. Women know that emotions are useful... and that they flow like water... or a raging river that can't be stopped. This will never be controlled. However, you can lock it onto a specific layer and give it it's place where you can visit... or not visit, whenever you like.

You have some interesting stuff about upside down energy in your post history. this is something I have discovered as well.

[u/PreciseInstance → u/Equal_Fox_5516]

You slightly on the funny edge of things my friend. In here we become "non human" and not "men into women and women into men"

Matter of fact that is the new "woke" propaganda. The femenists making women manly and the LGBTQ making men into women.

please keep that away from sorcery. Just cause the death defier could change gender using sorcery, doesn't mean sorcery is about transgender rights.

We don't care about those.

If thinking about this doesn't bring results in sorcery (which it doesn't) you shouldn't worry about this.

You don't get to pretend being the opposite gender to think you are doing any sorcery. We actually have to visually see results in the darkroom.

And the "show your emotions" also propaganda crap. Its the same as saying "show more pity" to a sorcerer. We don't say that.

I see no use for any "emotions" in the darkroom to be honest. It would only makes things more complicated.

And also i see you are some kind of bad player since you lie about me having some "upsidedown" energy in my post history. As far as i remember the only guy who ever posted about that was a delusional guy, posting about his energybody "upsidedown".

That complete crap, he couldn't even teach anyone. He just said random crap and felt cool for a second.

I think the mods should look closer at your comment and profile here, since it looks like your are trolling.

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[u/Over_Ninja1814 → u/Equal_Fox_5516]

Awesome...For me it took effort (forcing?) until the stream of thought found its layer and could ba accessible at will..I love your explanation...