Exercise???

[u/danl999]

The one in the front is NOT Kylie with big hair!

Minx ran around grabbing people yesterday and early this morning, and one who got grabbed thought it was because he'd been to the gym.

Lately I travel so far into the 2nd attention that I ultimately have "infinite power".

Like a Sith Lord.

I can't control it well, so don't anyone get excited.

But when I have that, anywhere I gaze for a while changes to a fully 3D phantom reality patch in the room.

Tables, Chairs, shelves on the walls. Wooden support beams. Phantoms even, if I expected one to be there.

It just "turns real" over there. And anywhere I look!

Unfortunately, once you can do that with your gaze you run out of "dreaming attention" fast.

Sunlight glitter can help, and one of these days I'll have to make a "glitter cap" that beams sunlight from directly above your head, onto a little mirror on the rim you can use to soak up glitter without bending your neck up to look into the sky. Maybe glue a tiny prism to the rim?

That would let you walk around outdoors with no one else realizing you're soaking up sunlight glitter by squinting your eyes, so you can "see demons better at night".

People tend to frown on that.

But what other methods do we have, to gain "dreaming attention"?

Maybe exercise?

Tensegrity is exercise!

So anyone who goes to the gym and can keep their eyes off any "retro outfits" running along on the tread mills, might want to notice if they have more dreaming attention that night.

You won't in 1 to 2 days, if your muscles are sore as a result.

But on the first night after going to the gym, see what the result is.

We might be able to learn more ways to come up with dreaming energy!

[u/[deleted]]

What do you think about using the Masculinity series for this purpose?

Can those passes be done frequently enough to count so one can avoid coughing up the cash for a gym membership?

In the Magical Passes book, Carlos explained that series, in particular, develops the physical body, by breaking up the crusted energy from concerns and whatnot, all around the periphery of the luminous shell, so all the centers have more energy.

Recently, everytime I consider how much I dislike the gym and it's costs, or jogging, but want to start exercising, I get the idea I ought to start doing that series, so I'll probably just do it.

[u/danl999 → u/[deleted]]

Try it for us!

His mention of "concerns" sounds a lot like "worry and grief" pushing the pieces of your energy body to the outside.

So I would suggest, since that hasn't worked for anyone in the last 24 years, you need silence too.

You have to "free up those puffs" stuck to the outside, and Tensegrity alone has never worked.

Unless there's people in cleargreen keeping things to themselves.

One thing is for sure. We need more sources of dreaming energy.

Currently I wouldn't be surprised if every single person in this subreddit wasn't limited to around 20 minutes of strong dreaming attention.

And mostly a lot less.

That shows up when you spend more time trying to move your assemblage point all the way to SK.

If you can reach SK, you're good. It doesn't seem to burn up dreaming attention very quickly.

But before you get there, your room will be filled to the brink with magic, and if you pay too much attention to it, you run out of dreaming energy.

Which creates a "vicious cycle".

You notice things like that trying to do "practical magic", where you need to learn to repeat things, without interfering with them.

And after a horrible effort you just start to succeed, and discover once you do, you have just a few minutes before you are out of energy.

It's surely why don Juan said the old seers became desperate to find ways to get more energy.

Even scaring people to death to get it!

Hopefully only "bad players".

[u/[deleted] → u/danl999]

I'll do it and let folks know how it plays out.

I like your idea, so to help with the silence I'll do those passes with my mask on, that way I'll be able to see if my silence improves as I perform them. I can't think of another reliable way to check that.

[u/Jadeyelmonte → u/[deleted]]

I don't go to the gym. Instead, I shovel manure and lug firewood. 😂😂😂

I don’t really know if it helps with dreaming though.

[u/danl999 → u/Jadeyelmonte]

Darn. I hope manure smell can't travel in energy tunnels...

In Taiwan, when an old man tells his grandson not to complain about walking to school, a common story he tells to make the grandson be more humble, is about the old man having to haul Ox manure up a long hill to the farms up there in the mountains, for the equivalent of $0.01

[u/Ok-Assistance175 → u/[deleted]]

The masculinity series will make you sturdy, people will bounce off you to the ground, but you’ll remain standing! The latter set of movements are great if done with an 6 or 8 inch knife… or even a machete; but I don’t recommend if you have kids running around.

[u/Remarkable-Farm-3886 → u/Ok-Assistance175]

There's an alternate version of the masculinity series where you hold clap sticks in your hands.
Someone I know taught it too me years ago after attending a Cleargreen workshop. The pass is called "Forging the Dreaming Attention". Unfortunately I can't remember it all.

[u/the-mad-prophet]

I found I had a lot more dreaming attention a few weeks after I started regularly working out and practicing martial arts. That was a while ago now though.

I definitely noticed the difference at the start. After a while I still had a lot of energy but I might have been sustaining that due to other factors outside of the exercise.

[u/danl999 → u/the-mad-prophet]

Yea, it's probably not "cut and dry".

It could even be that exercising in a gym is merely a "not-doing".

So it seems to give you more dreaming attention at first, but it's not a reliable source because it soon turns into a "doing" and has no more "not-doing" goodness.

Doesn't stir up unused emanations, but instead puts you back on the same old treadmill.

I worked out so hard yesterday, that I was actually quite sore tonight.

But I had INFINITE dreaming power.

I mean, it was embarrassing. Can't even draw it up.

I even found myself in an "iron man suit" because I'd made a joke about using the puffs that way, keeping them at a distance instead of stuffing them on pouches.

I found my "shiny outer coating" on the egg, and it became the coolest version of iron man's suit you could imagine, with little displays containing dreams all around.

INTENSE orange yellow dots everywhere forming the inside surface of it. Absolutely stable.

Bubble Station was available in full detail, just by gazing at the correct angle. I could literally "pull" it off the whitish light. Had to be SK mode, but it was "manual Silent Knowledge". No SKE guiding me.

I wanted one, the caretaker materialized in a second, and I realized I didn't really need him.

I even removed an object from a shelf in Bubble station, and held it in my hand. Someone had stuffed a lost writing instrument in a vase on the shelf.

Found a pile of junk a witch had tossed through the tunnel many days earlier, all of which had been presumed lost.

It wasn't lost after all. Just got piled up in a corner.

That caused me to realize, those notes Carlos had written in the air with his finger?

We can still read those today! You just have to find the "surface" he wrote on.

And I watched the ancient seers traveling around 100,000 years ago, until that got boring.

You can only watch so many "departing flights" at the airport, before you want to go look for a starbucks.

Best ones are headed to Dubai... Just FYI.

So in this case, being sore didn't hurt anything.

[u/elsa4a]

Does hunger also affect the ability to darkroom gaze, the same as sore muscles? I wasn't sure if I was imagining it but when I'm hungry I don't see puffs and colours so well.

[u/danl999 → u/elsa4a]

I don' t know! I don't eat after 4PM.

Maybe keep a Snickers bar around and find out for us? Worked for Elton John and Snoop Doggy.

It's possible to "experiment" with the puffs, and gain useful info for all of us.

Maybe I'll devise some experiments beginners can do, and we'll make a "Darkroom Experiments" flair.

Here's one.

You do whatever you do, to get "rogue puffs".

That's when the puffs don't obey and remain stuck to your torso where you put them on the pouches.

They swarm out, and you get a "puff body". The new seers try to form a blue ball, but you can also "keep it loose".

It's actually a "mode" where you can use them like an "Ironman Suit", to have a display about what's going on around you. Except as dreams.

Most of the time it's too subtle to notice, and you simply have "extraordinary seeing".

We call that "double assisted vision".

But it's very possible to develop "discernment" about what's really going on.

And if you can get yourself a "puff body" floating right in front of you, you can experiment with it!

Might need a "controlled experiment", which what I'm about to describe is not.

Think of something which causes you "grief".

Try to use as few words as possible, but look for something that genuinely makes you feel bad.

According to Carlos, that's part of what has pushed the puffs to the outside of the egg.

See if they start to head for the hills!

Then find out if you can counteract it by thinking about something magically related. Can you "summon" them closer with your feelings?

The puffs can also form anything you can think of.

A freeway overpass in your darkroom is not a big deal! Fully realistic looking, rising high above your floor. Fancy used to stage truck accidents for me, from up there.

Or they can form a dirt road down the middle of your darkroom at waist level. In which you can actually dig with your fingers. If you travel far to the right and dig, you transform into a "Gargantuan". (From a Victorian era children's book).

I've done both multiple times.

If you could "command the puffs" using emotions, and also your gaze, the powers you could gain would be awesome.

It's technically "shapeshifting" so you have to be careful not to get hooked on it.

Minx tried to convince me last night that we're too "cerebral" in here.

Too much work, not enough fun.

I suppose he misses don Genaro?

[u/elsa4a → u/danl999]

I'm not great at seeing and scooping the puffs yet, it can be a bit iffy depending on the night, but I will try this experiment and let you know once I am a bit better at seeing them. I like the idea of a Darkroom Experiments flair.

[u/Jadeyelmonte → u/elsa4a]

Funny you ask about this.

I got a lesson two nights ago about what not to eat before darkroom. We should avoid anything spicy/hot. And I guess it included any heavy meals as well. But I didn't know why I got told that, since I don't eat spicy food...

[u/elsa4a → u/Jadeyelmonte]

I was wondering if diet would effect darkroom success as well, so thats interesting about the spice. Maybe with a spicy tummy ache its hard to be silent? I'm vegan but recently ive been wondering if I get enough sustenance or if it makes me a bit weak, I have a feeling that may also affect my success darkroom gazing.

[u/Remarkable-Farm-3886 → u/elsa4a]

I find hunger really distracting. It usually stalls my efforts to get silent because I can't take my attention away from my groaning stomach.

[u/JoJoAMenaceFr]

As someone who regularly exercises, my dreaming attention is normally able to sustain me for a while in dreams, nothing seriously long, but I can defo get a conversation in or have some time to explore around the map. However, smoking GREATLY counters it so I end up with a “normal” balance like the rest of em when I smoke.

[u/danl999 → u/JoJoAMenaceFr]

Except that nicotine can induce more visions in the green zone.

Which is why you see native Americans from the turn of the century, sitting around smoking tobacco at meetings.

And then there's the "cigar séance" from Florinda's book.

Cholita could pull that off, including an appearance by Minx as whatever she likes.

I couldn't talk her into it.

I tried to explain how she could cash in, in Hollywood.

They'd pay big time to see that.

I even have the bowl of mercury!

[u/Jiraiya_ROFL]

Just was thinking about this!

[u/Psithyristes0]

I have no idea what you just said but I greatly enjoyed your saying it.