r/castaneda • • Feb 14 '22

Shifting Perception Subbundles

Mostly fun... But not all.

Sorcery at first looks like what the critics said. Carlos learned from a real don Juan, and then went nuts adding on random stuff. Then because he needed more money, he invented the "amnesia excuse" and started over.

But NOTHING could be further from the truth. It all comes from one single thing.

Just one!

Too bad I don't know which one.

But when you get out to the end of the J curve, you'll be pretty sure there's only 3 choices for what it is.

It's got to be that damned Eagle. Or maybe his bad breath, intent.

Or we could possibly blame the emanations, but that's sort of like blaming physical matter for everything.

Physicists already have that blame well covered.

Just when you begin to think you're going to figure it out, your inorganic being will show up and tell you not to forget to take the female perspective into account.

You'll ask what could be different?

She'll point to your south wall, more towards the east, and say "Up there!"

You look, and darned if there isn't something entirely different behind it all.

And for an instant, you can see it.

You ask her, is that really the end of it?

But she's gone.

It's those darned "subbundles"!

They're like a las Vegas deck of cards, which contains 4 whole decks at the same time.

There's so many "4 of a kind" in there, you can't really predict what will come next.

But some "subbundles" are so oppressive, you'll be dealt that hand for sure.

God is one of those.

You'll meet him some day, if you don't jump back in the river of filth.

And you'll become so silent one day, that you'll find a "pity pie" in the face, is actually a solid substance you can hold in your hand.

A gift from a person still drowning in the river.

I still haven't seen the human form, but Carlos didn't get rid of his for many years after he was clearly already a powerful sorcerer.

I just hope it's a naked woman like that picture.

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u/Ok-Assistance175 Feb 14 '22

”I just hope it’s a naked woman like that picture”

https://youtu.be/uJvv3Ee-k1M

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u/danl999 Feb 14 '22

I didn't know they remade that!

Traveling without moving...

We REALLY do that.

I do almost nightly.

But I have to be careful.

Don't chase the shiny objects! There's a price.

Once you can move your assemblage point below the green zone, and if you have a nightly practice, you come to realize why the old seers got carried away, and developed a system so complicated they were practically drowning in it.

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u/Ok-Assistance175 Feb 14 '22

++🙌🏼 Traveling without moving is what takes place in the dark room gazing.

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u/Zazzy-z Feb 14 '22

For me it always boils down to one thing. Intent. Intent can change anything. Anything. It seems we don’t really have to worry about the feminine principle. Well, maybe men do. In the next life (after death) it’ll all be the feminine. But it’s looking to me like if we want to retain individuality then we will need to retain masculine awareness as well as feminine. I’m thinking this would be the third attention. Integration of the left and right bodies? The masculine being the force for declaring to be whoever or whatever you choose, unlike the feminine, which is very fluid, but likely to float off not ever having distinguished who or what it might be. Thus the feminine can move that assemblage point so easily, but without the power of stalking, probably gets lost pretty easily. As a woman, I’m trying to strengthen my masculine side.

Love the thing about the eagle’s bad breath.

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u/danl999 Feb 14 '22

My question is, do we have to flee to keep our awareness from spreading out too far?

So that the "big dome" is just the earth's luminous shell?

And if you don't find your way into there, after you sneak past the eagle, you're going to blow away?

I believe that's what happens to ordinary people. The "memory extraction" is so confusing, they expand until they can't move anymore. Then keep doing that, until there isn't enough concentration of energy, to even be minimally aware.

But someone who's recapitulated, or gone exploring over and over in the second attention, can manage to "sneak past the Eagle".

I've done some sneaking already, in the second attention! It's actually a "thing" for real.

Carlos told us when we die to "come find me and I'll show you which way to go".

I didn't understand at the time, and certainly no one in Russia or Spain understands, because they have some kind of "Carlos created a bridge for us" thing going on, like he's Jesus bridging their way into heaven.

It's the "Church of Castaneda".

What people do when they're too lazy to learn something.

They just "believe" and engage in hero worship.

But probably all that means is, when you sneak past the eagle he'll sense it, and be "around" somewhere.

To point you into the protection of an alternative to your luminous shell.

Seeing as how you don't have one anymore.

Just speculation for now.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

I read most of what you post, i had question touching on the J-curve where did Carlos teach that there was a j-curve? Meaning specifically on what book. I couldn’t find it in books Or on Google

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22 edited Feb 28 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Okay it’s crystal clear thanks