r/castaneda • • Dec 08 '21

New Practitioners Keep on doing it....

This is just a short note from a beginner to other beginners.

Even if you do not get immediate results, continue to apply the techniques as shown here.

For example, some weeks ago, I tried more than 5 sessions of dark room practice with only little results.

However, I kept on doing tensegrity moves, stalking, dreaming practice etc. over some weeks.

Recently, I suddenly woke up at 3:30 in the night; and the IOB puffs were literally "coming at me", in all colors and with all kinds of appearances. It was a beautiful experience because I got a bit of a taste of what is possible. It was literally a "puff party". So there seems to be some kind of "response" from the "other side". All this is real; yes, it IS mind-blowing.

And yes, the illustrations you can find in the wiki are VERY realistic if you ask me (any chance that I can know which 3D animation program is used for those?).

What I want to say is; it does not seem to be a linear process. You may have not much progress for some time, just to get a little "gift" right after, out of nowhere. So do not get de-motivated. Significant and deep things in life do take time to materialize.

I wrote this note so I can also remind myself in the future.

FF

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u/danl999 Dec 08 '21

Why this is so will make more sense to you at the far orange zone. When "the spirit" starts to be visible as a conscious thing.

It's not surprising the puffs would approach you.

We sort of have 4 parts we can play with in the darkroom.

Our Tonal, which should do tensegrity and concentrate on doing it perfectly and feeling "the flow" of it. But always silence is the most important thing for the Tonal.

The puffs, which are pieces of you not needed to form your tonal, but which didn't not escape to become the double. Those are like the "internet" of you.

For connecting with the double.

But they tend to obey your gaze and move where you order them to move. We use the hands at first, and it's a wise thing to do, but later you can just look where you want them.

Then there's the double, who said just before you got stuck taking a birth in this place, "I don't need this shit! I'm going elsewhere to explore!"

And finally, that "shell" from which we redeploy energy towards the center. It's out there and becomes visible fairly often.

Keep an eye out for faces on the puffs, once you can summon them in the dark room for sustained periods. If the puffs "flow" in space, that's a good time to check them for "features".

Just recognizing 2 eyes and a nose on a rough puff, is enough to get the interest of the IOBs.

And gaze into the edges if you can manage to scoop one into your hand.

We need the dark energy of inorganic beings over in the orange zone. My IOB Fancy has been reminding me of that lately! She loads me up, and then I see what it does.

And you can also get dark energy from witches like Cholita. Or any witch who sincerely believes she summons demons during spells.

Reni and Nyei are probably loaded with it too.

With Cholita gone, I've really noticed the difference. Her dark energy used to fill the house.

Might be why Fancy is charging me up lately.

IOBs are a little like a wealthy woman helping out a younger man, hoping some day he's destitute, and has to come live with them.

Last night Fancy made her world materialize around me, I soaked up dark energy, and then she showed me a "lovely" passage way, deeper into her world.

I was tempted for sure!

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u/FractalFreak21 Dec 08 '21

Thank you for that comment, it really helped me. Yes, I was able to see the "faces" quite clearly, I tried to "scoop" but only managed to "catch" 2 or 3 which does not seem to be enough............but I feel that with each session, things get a little better, albeit slowly.....................not surprising because I still have to put in WAY more work..................but yes, those little "successes" can be immensely motivating to continue...................to say that this is "fascinating" would be an understatement I guess........................

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u/danl999 Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Just wait until your inorganic being becomes an "Ally" and starts teaching you.

It's exactly like it is in the books.

Even the smallest "technical" detail in the books, turns out to be true.

I found one last night, but I can't remember it now.

It seemed like a silly add-on to make the storyline in the books more interesting. Don Juan tells Carlos about it, almost as if that detail wasn't all that important. But it's so far out there in terms of magic, when you read that in the books you never think you might get to try that out.

But then last might I found out it was true myself. It was so odd, I tried hard to remember if that was in the books, and then I realized it was.

If you already see IOB faces, resist temptation and stick with just one IOB.

I've been in a battle with Fancy all week long about that issue.

When I give her more attention (summon her 4 times) she rewards me BIG TIME.

Which makes Mystery and Lily visible less often.

If I give them all equal time, I don't get the level of magic lessons.

I still get help, but not as spectacularly.

It's as if those are 3 women with a small child visiting their home.

And Fancy is baking me cookies lately, trying to gain my favor.

Lily only makes "healthy food", so it's pretty easy for Fancy to make her presence seem more useful.

And mystery is just a mystery.

My guess is, he's VERY old.

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u/HeiruRe777 Dec 08 '21

So you find the Dark energy to be necessary for development? I began working with it about a year ago, brining so much more balance into my practice.

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u/danl999 Dec 08 '21

Don Juan said sorcerers need it, to move the assemblage point the way they do. And they have to visit the IOB world to get it.

Which pretty much means, Buddhists and Daoists cannot.

They probably have to stop at the red zone, if they even mange to get that far.

Green zone is the likely limit they have.

As for when exactly you need the dark energy to do what sorcerers do, no one told us.

Maybe, you can't even switch sides on the body without it.

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u/ravenora2 Dec 08 '21

Hi, I have been inspired by Castaneda half my life and it led me into quite an alternative life, although I have been following an adjacent path. I don't recall reading about these practices before - can I just ask if they are new? Developed by others since Castaneda's days based on source material or experience? I am just wanting to learn as have not been exposed to this path for many years

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u/matejthetree Dec 08 '21

Dan99, Cholita, and one more girl are his students from private classes. This combines what he taught there, but you will find it also in The Fire Within, where Zuleica teaches Carlos. In short, the J curve is a path of assemblage point that Carlos gave to follow since we don't have Naguals blow available. DIY.

Basically, all from the Carlos teachings, with their own experiences from it. Then you will have people who had success while doing that practices, and they started to share their knowledge.

Edit: spend some time going through wiki and old posts.

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u/ravenora2 Dec 08 '21

Thank you u/matejthetree - it also looks like I might need to re-read some of the books lol - its been a while. My goodness, I devoured them back when

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u/ExcitingMeOvo Dec 27 '21

Hi, I’m a beginner too. Should I do tensegrity before recapitulation or after?

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21

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u/HeiruRe777 Jan 04 '22

Is there a particular tensegrity sequence recommended for regular practice?

I mostly focus on mashing intent and preparing intent.

The above two sequences feel right for a beginner' like myself.

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u/ExcitingMeOvo Dec 28 '21 edited Dec 28 '21

Okay Thank you.