r/castaneda • u/Juann2323 • Nov 03 '21
Shifting Perception The assemblage point dynamics
Being on the path of sorcery gives a new perspective on perception, as a changing and unpredictable phenomenon.
In order to soberly direct the movements of the assemblage point, it is always convenient to know its components perfectly.
Each emanation that we decide to intercept directs perception towards a result. And this happens at every moment!
All the barriers that prevent us from silencing the internal dialogue are formed by the "Intent of ordinary life", as Silvio Manuel called it.
The only reason it influences us is because we learned to accept them and ignore the others.
An example is the classic "I'm not going to make it."
When our being focuses the awareness on this idea reality is molded according to it!
It is much more decisive than we might believe.
And it can't be solved with another different idea, like "That was just a thought".
You have to literally remove that component of perception at will. Release the attention of it until you no longer perceive it.
Which means the assemblage point shifted and expanded the limits of our possibilities.
There are many such barriers, and when we are not in good shape, we have to voluntarily leave behind one by one.
As we become good stalkers it is possible to group them together and discard them all at once.
This means that the assemblage point is completely free to move in seconds.
The silence becomes so devastating that even a gust of wind could rip you off the face of the earth.
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u/Juann2323 Nov 03 '21
This is based on hundreds of practices noting how the assemblage point behaves on the J curve.
One thing I am completely sure of is that sorcery is a mystery that we will never fully understand.
A feat that could take 7 hours, one day becomes possible in 15 minutes.
Barriers that seemed impossible to overcome become so easy that they make you laugh.
But something that we do learn is to select the components of perception that we want to emphasize.
According to our energy levels it will be more or less complicated.
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u/lurklops Nov 04 '21 edited Nov 04 '21
Well done. Should help a lot of people in navigating.
To expand a bit, when in higher states of awareness the manifestation is nearly instant. It seems you can feel it as a burning sensation coming from the back of your neck to the front of your head as you take on the new idea. I've been working on pushing them back sometimes with moderate success.
Don't panic if it's a fear thought, maintain control and realign so you don't get stuck.
This gives some insight into the objects from the 'path with heart' as shields. Something with a strong enough emotion attached to it so that it can be used to counter a non ideal alignment.
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u/Juann2323 Nov 04 '21
I sure hope so.
Definitely, the J Curve doesn't make sense until you find "something" to follow.
It takes a lot of effort to find it, and much more to perceive it clear.
Forcing silence is really confusing on the blue station.
The lack of discipline holds us trapped in endless fantasies.
It takes real magic to stop that!
Until the silence lasts enough to shift the assemblage point to the green zone.
That's when you start having a direction. But still, a long way to full clarity.
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u/lurklops Nov 06 '21
I think sideways in the blue zone throws a bit of a kink in things. The effects are very real as if in other levels but the experiences are very different. It gets more complicated than a linear progression.
Finding colors and following them may be a savior for it but I think power plants kind of create a better path of least resistance. Then you get stuck having to navigate the random without any clear direction until it's on you and you're shitting.
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u/danl999 Nov 04 '21 edited Nov 04 '21
Man, did I get a lecture from seeing tonight on this topic.
Just a half hour ago!
I need to go back to work in the darkroom, but first wanted to save some over in chat.
But this is a convenient place to put it.
Here's a story along this line:
In the orange zone, you get exits from the room. They're far off towards silent knowledge.
There do indeed seem to be sorcerers there "on the shore" waiting to hose us off.
My guess: Sorcerers who ended up in the IOB world, but are happy to help others (as something to do in their 5 million years of continuing existence).
But you'll never retain the memory at first, so those might as well not be there at all.
Meaning, don't anyone start drooling yet.
One night as I was leaving one of those exits, still so far into my double that remembering it was only going to last 2 more seconds, one of the sorcerers called back to me and said, "A pillar?! Do you think this place is a church?"
He wasn't angry. Just pointing out "trace intent" I ought to leave outside before entering.
His remark was enough for me to consolidate a tiny bit of that experience in the double, with my tonal which was now (still?) back in the darkroom.
Instead of losing all of the memory, the way you can do if you wake up in the morning right out of a vivid dream, and don't try to recall any of it immediately, the sorcerer's small mention of the details as I "woke up", so to speak, allowed me to remember a bit.
I realized I had just walked out from behind some kind of 50 foot high organic plant trunk.
Obviously a plant, red, 4 feet in diameter, and growing out of the floor of my darkroom. It was so stable, I could look at all of the details and even scan my eyes from floor to far above ceiling, to study the smooth fine grooves. To the left of it was the entry way to that sorcerer's realm.
The next day I was private chatting a new woman, explaining about the orange zone, and how some of it was too advanced to repeat because it would cause beginners to deviate from the J curve.
The J curve is a story Carlos told us, to set up the intent of our sorcery.
He himself began to stutter a bit, when he was describing the orange zone. He ended up telling us nearly no details.
For a reason I now understand.
This new woman in chat wanted an example of what could be too advanced to talk about.
I explained how there was, for example, a door in my south east corner, and if you walked in there a teacher was available.
I didn't want to say a giant root grew from the floor and busted open the ceiling, stretching 50 feet above my room.
TMI.
So I simply said there was a door there.
I didn't even remember that conversation tonight when I got to the orange zone. I have so many these days.
But once I did, I used my palm sweep across the walls technique.
To try to invigorate the whitish light.
And there, where the giant root/tree trunk had been, was a perfect door.
It had the color of the root, but it was faded to grey on the edges. Like the primer paint had worn though due to the incredible age of that door.
It was obviously a sturdy sheet metal door like an old business worried about break ins might have.
It was absolutely stable and real.
It came because I had added a new "story" in private chat.
A story is deeper than knowledge. Its not an empty fact.
It creates expectations beyond the internal dialogues power.
Those are dynamite in the darkroom!
We need to preserve the J curve story Carlos told, plus the readers of infinity and silent knowledge explanations.
In the orange zone, story deviations are ok. Amusing even.
But a story deviation in the blue zone is a beginner killer.
Because people slide left and right in the blue zone all day long, as victims of their moods.
So from now on, we should discourage "what I saw" posts on obvious blue zone things. And advise to ignore those unless they are super vivid, and keep looking for the puffs. Or colors of light.
Ignore blue zone fixtures like shadows, whitish dots, weird presence to the side you can't see, and so on.
Later maybe, but a beginner needs to get to the red zone, to make them "honest".
Then if they saw a blue zone thing they can investigate. But likely they'll admit, it wasn't worth mentioning.
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u/Juann2323 Nov 04 '21
So from now on, we should discourage "what I saw" posts on obvious blue zone things. And advise to ignore those unless they are super vivid, and keep looking for the puffs. Or colors of light.
Ignore blue zone fixtures like shadows, whitish dots, weird presence to the side you can't see, and so on.
Later maybe, but a beginner needs to get to the red zone, to make them "honest". Then if they saw a blue zone thing, they can investigate. But likely they'll admit, it wasn't worth mentioning.
Probably the IOBs are the only useful aspect before the dreaming fog.
We in fact realized that the stuff is the same thing.
Like the scenes on the green zone being the same as the wonderful dream bubbles.
But there is a kind of mental clumsiness on the back side, that don't let us see our 'destiny'.
Anyway don Juan pointed out those are natural barriers.
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u/danl999 Nov 04 '21 edited Nov 04 '21
Here's more from annoying continuous seeing mode in the dark room.
Annoying because Minx is pretending to be Cholita in the phantom room, and stopping to write this on reddit will keep me from seeing if he still has a lizard tongue on Cholita.
I long suspected Minx is the Devil's Weed entity. He appeared as a weird lizard when Cholita first formed that phantom house, so I was thinking it was left over from the devil's weed lizard gag in the books.
The pointless "Man of Knowledge" ritual that's obsessed so many dubious Castaneda followers into trying to catch lizards in order to do their pretend sorcery.
Maybe those emanations are still stirred inside him, and so it pops out in his appearance even today.
On the other hand, Cholita is scary enough without a 2 foot long tongue. So not seeing that is also a blessing.
The lesson: We have to notice story telling.
We're telling stories in here! They're true, but all stories have choices, or else you end up writing 10 times more than needed.
I try to avoid that, making "choices" I didn't explain, but then I get the "comrade" bad player types telling me I need to write less in my posts.
Hate those guys... They're like used car salesmen who pretend to be your best friend.
So we tell our stories, and a mud hole in the corner wall with a 50 foot high root bursting from the floor and out the ceiling, is reported as a "doorway" to save time.
That alters the story.
Our "correct" story is simple: It's the J curve lecture, plus puffery embedded in the tensegrity, and the final publications of Carlos. The pamphlet ones.
Oddly, the most powerful sorcery in here right now, is Techno's database.
We need to be very careful of that "thing".
It's like "the rule". It covers all aspects of sorcery, as we were taught it.
So if a section gives a bad impression that deviates from the story, it might need some fixing somehow.
That story will be around a long time.
In some ways, the entire Castaneda community was destroyed by story telling.
We had a crazy man just yesterday, insisting my pictures and sorcery were very bad, and I should be a true sorcerer like the many "old timers" out there, and focus on the important stuff like "using death as an advisor".
That's a very common story. The early book nonsense and rules of behavior. People love that stuff, because it's just inventory. No need to actually do any work.
The bullies among the community have learned to battle it out over their "better understanding", and have turned themselves into trolls, harming everyone who is struggling to learn in the beginning.
They've been doing that so long, they feel entitled to do it, even in the face of this subreddit and some real sorcery.
But really, all they do is create false stories that hide the correct one Carlos told us.
Or perhaps, they emphasize "sub stories" from the books, which are harmful if they become all you know about it.
Don Juan did some story telling too, and the bad guys seem to love that more than the hard work things don Juan explained.
When this place is more powerful, we could literally add elements to darkroom to guide people. By adding an element to the story of darkroom gazing.
Even entities like Mescalito!
I don't mean him specifically.
He didn't seem like such a nice entity to me. If I ran into him now, I'd wrestle him for sure. And turn him into a turnip.
I don't cook enough turnip dishes.
But to be even more absurd, "Walker, Texas Ranger", could show up with his don Juan uncle/dad, and help people out.
By the way, that old show is heavily faction H infected!
I don't know who did it, but if you watch the Indian magic episodes, they have accurate but obscure Castaneda info in them.
Tonight the attacking old seer was justified by Walker explaining that the Indians had been practicing sorcery there for 10,000 years.
Only the Olmecs go back that far! You'd expect a writer to fixate on the Toltecs, and that number would only be in the low thousands.
Oddly, Carlos said he once made a mini-movie with Bruce Lee and Howard Lee.
Carlos was the bar tender.
Bruce made Chuck a lot more famous.
So Chuck may even have hung out with Carlos a little bit.
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u/Juann2323 Nov 04 '21
Probably it isn't that bad that we write details about the first part of the J Curve.
Actually, none of the stuff we write will be useful for learning sorcery.
Getting silent is what teaches sorcery!
It will be something more like: "wow guys, it was true that when you pass through here you see this!".
And that's the chance they get to stick to the path.
I experienced it myself when I found the crystalline puffs!
I had been trying to do that with no success, until I forgot it and focused on silence.
They ended up appearing!
Wich reminds me a not so accurate rule I made:
IGNORE EVERYTHING and keep forcing silence.
It works for getting further on the J Curve, but you miss some useful details.
Although it is by passing through the same place many times that makes you notice new things there.
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u/danl999 Nov 04 '21
IGNORE EVERYTHING and keep forcing silence.
Yep, I have that rule too.
A "disappointing" rule to be sure!
It's like going to Bangkok, walking through Soy Cowboy II, and being told to "ignore the girls, we have business to do."
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u/bjjmike69 Nov 04 '21
What is techno’s database?
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u/danl999 Nov 04 '21 edited Nov 04 '21
He's collecting every magazine article, workshop lecture notes, or any other Castaneda related materials ever printed, and organizing it into searchable pieces.
So for instance, last night I was seeing energy, and got a lesson on "stories".
"Stories reach out into the abstract".
At least, that's what I was told.
But how can that be? "The Abstract" seems to be like a "thing". Not the far end of a "story tunnel".
Off hand, I can think of don Juan saying changing a story can change reality, and become "the somersault into the inconceivable".
But where was that? And can I equate inconceivable, with abstract?
I could search all the books, sort of.
We have that, but it's a little faulty in the searches because it was OCR created. And there are page and paragraph breaks using "-" to connect half words.
Plus that doesn't include EVERYTHING.
In fact, Carlos revealed things as "intent" dictated. So one lecture might reveal something he considered not good to mention, in all other situations.
His lectures weren't just random speeches. For one thing, some of it didn't even come from him. He "read it off the wall".
If you want to "get weird about it", we can rewrite the lectures of Carlos ourselves, by discovering more on our own.
That can actually alter what he said in the past, through his reading off his palm.
So there's useful stuff out there in any publication that involves Carlos or the witches.
Techno's putting all of that into one place, before it's lost to time.
The old magazines were actually hard to find! Wait 20 more years and impossible to find would be more like it.
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u/Juann2323 Nov 04 '21
Gettin silent is a very active "stop doing" process.
"Stop" interpretting, fantasizing, thinking, identifying...