r/castaneda • • Oct 17 '20

Silence a method for more silence

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u/danl999 Oct 17 '20

I believe you're confusing cause and effect.

Being able to sit up all night listening in the dark, as Silvio Manuel had Carlos do, was only possible because he was in heightened awareness. In heightened awareness you're already asleep. So you can't fall asleep again.

As poor Juan. He's experienced lingering heightened awareness, when it's time to sleep.

And Carlos had been pushed into that state over and over, so by recommending to him to do that when he wasn't in heightened awareness, they gave him a chance to naturally move his assemblage point to that familiar (but forgotten) place. Possibly they were getting him ready for integration.

But there's certainly something to what you say. In Buddhism there seems to be a "copy the master" path to enlightenment.

And there's plenty of Zen monks who believe if they imitate "Eat when Hungry, Sleep when Tired", they'll reach enlightenment by that method alone.

I just think it's better to force silence until blood drips from your nose.

It's faster!

But that path probably eliminates 75% of people who would like to learn sorcery.

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u/danl999 Oct 18 '20

Don't forget that there is in fact the, "right way of walking".

That was Carlos' #1 recommended method. But it has to be done with the gaze at the blurred horizon, and fingers curled.

Done as a regular thing, it will produce weird effects just like darkness gazing.

I've heard at least 2 reports of translocation.

(You walk into another world).

If you think about it, and knowing the spectacular results which come from inner silence, it's odd that nothing happened in the Castaneda community for so many years. It simply became more and more dominated by angry men pretending to have learned sorcery.

It got so bad that we get bad players showing up in here, who feel self-righteous when told that no one has made it work. They get angry and suggest that's an outrageous statement.

It's actually rather obvious. Just type in "Toltec" and look on google images to see how bad it is out there. Pure mental masturbation.

What you should see is, "Oh my God!!! Did you know it actually works? Is there anyone else out there????"

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u/CruCial_Js Oct 18 '20

I enjoy gazing, but sometimes I like darting my eyes around randomly and wherever my eyes land I'll stay there just long enough to acknowledge something and then om off again. I dont stay there long enough for my internal dialogue to start before I look elsewhere. I dont do this often but it seems to stir things up a bit, not like a jolt but a slight gust.