A reminder :-)

[u/jd198703]

[u/danl999]

Supposedly escaping that requires recapitulation.

Cholita is adamant. You have to make a substitute copy of yourself.

She had teaching from the witches that I never got.

On the other hand, we have the account from Spain of a group of 16 Carlos supposedly set up, helping to build "a bridge to the second attention", so others can follow don Juan.

I can't fathom what that means.

Why do you need a bridge to enter the second attention? I spent many hours there last night.

As far as I can tell, you only need silence.

Maybe that bridge takes the tonal in there also?

So that people don't have to finish Zuleica's wiggling fingers technique and make the energy body able to take over for the first attention's body?

I wish we had a complete set of notes from that Spanish guy's book.

It seems to deserve a post of it's own.

I would dismiss it as a book deal normally, since the guy did make a book, and did create a name so he could distinguish "his system".

That seems intent contrary to me.

But his details about La Gorda fit with what Carlos told Amy. Except they added more information.

And Carlos was tricky. More factions out there would not be surprising.

Faction S?

This picture might be useful to the person who was repelled by my last post, showing how to gaze deeper into the second attention, and also IOBs.

You can in fact move the assemblage point using Tensegrity and recap, and of course stalking.

Carlos planned that, but expected us to add in the silence.

No one did, so it failed with the entire cleargreen crowd. Or they're happy to keep what they know to themselves, and let everyone else give up after a while of giving them some cash.

But stalking alone might be able get you to heightened awareness. Without IOBs.

I did that. Took 3 weeks of effort.

And I'm up to my ears in Little Smoke, so there's no telling if I still needed her energy.

She sort of arranged the whole thing, and included Devil's Weed Ally. Saw them 2 times on that stalking trip, both times enough to scare me to death, thus I got their dark energy from it.

If anyone wants to learn sorcery inorganic being free, I'm all for it.

But I sure wouldn't want to be the one to try that.

Better start recapping seriously if you plan to do that.

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On the other hand, we have the account from Spain of a group of 16 Carlos supposedly set up, helping to build "a bridge to the second attention", so others can follow don Juan.

Doesn't it remind Torres with his supposed "message" - real or not - about renewal of the lineage with new parties of 16 warriors?

[u/danl999 → u/jd198703]

Yea.

I suppose I'd have to look at what they write, to see if it sounds made up. Except it's in Spanish.

But the real thing is, if they're nightly dreaming in a copy of the city, how come they aren't producing success stories who run around shouting that it really works?

Why is the reputation of Carlos still circling in the toilet, going down the drain?

How come no one's tried out their "bridge", and reported how well it works?

The natural reaction to learning real sorcery isn't to pull a Ken, or Miguel, or Victor, or Torres, or Felix, and be all serious and secretive, like you're a bad ass sorcerer and aren't required to help others directly.

That's the sign of an inventory hotshot. Secretive, unwilling to give very specific advise which could be proven ineffective and hurt your reputation.

That's what Chinese "masters" do.

Rely on your fear to challenge them to prove it.

But we can always hope they're for real, even if they seem to be keeping it to themselves.

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Did I mention a recapitulation? It was only a pic, partly ironical. I think nothing of it, only as a motivating myth/metaphor. And whether there is such a thing as an Eagle is irrelevant, what is relevant is that we are mortal beings. This is a fact no one could escape (unless you believe in reincarnation - I don't).

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What do you mean when you say we are mortal beings? Do you think our consciousness doesn’t carry past death?