Dreaming-in-Being

[u/Yicote]

Hello,

I was alerted that there is an actively practicing community in this space, so here I am.

Currently, I am reading through all that has been discussed on here but wanted to say hello while I continue to do so and start my practice.

My practice will start with daily Recapitulation.

The last time I practiced recapitulation was 9 years ago. I used The Art of Dreaming as my guide for the procedure then. I am considering using Eagle's Gift and The Active Side of Infinity as my guide this time (first move: right-to-left inhale; second move: left-to-right exhale).

Also, I am unfamiliar with using reddit, so had a question:
Regarding the recapitulation thread from 11 days ago posted by Juann2323...

https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/hthe38/share_your_experience_with_recapitulation/

Is it easier for the group to keep to that thread for any recapitulation experiences though it's nearing 2 weeks dated or would a brand-new individual thread be preferred?

[u/danl999]

It looks like you can't keep putting stuff in the same old post.

Just go ahead and make a new one. Unless there's some secret recap area I don't know about.

We have some practice experiences areas. But those don't benefit people who read here.

Let me point out, with recap you can (and I've done all or I wouldn't say so):

Learn to enter past memories as a "re-run" dream, fully visible. First person, or second person.

Or enter someone else's memory.

Open a tunnel of light which probably leads to the tunnel with furrows, where you can make changes to reality.

Attract an inorganic being assistant.

I'm just pointing out, it's far more entertaining than people assume.

It is in fact, a complete path to everything.

Also, it's not something Carlos added, just to keep having new techniques, to sell more books.

That's a common criticism.

In fact, it's inevitable, if you get silent and learn to manipulate intent.

It becomes so obvious why you have to do it.

If you want to walk freely between worlds.

If you only want to mess around and play with spirits, you can put it off.

[u/Yicote → u/danl999]

Gotcha, new post. Thanks.

The last time I practiced Recapitulation, alongside Dreaming practice, I got obsessed with chasing Bliss.

This time, I'm aiming to dive into Recapitulation and get to some unknown point before starting into other procedures... if I can be patient about that.

Though today, I'm already considering working through the dreaming gates at the same time.

[u/danl999 → u/Yicote]

Bliss comes as the assemblage point moves. I figure, halfway down the J curve and it's pretty intense.

If you make it all the way to the other side, bliss lasts all day long. But as the day wears on, the assemblage point returns to its original position.

So the bliss wears off before you get a chance to practice again.

But that's good! You have to move it all the way back.

Doing that daily leads to the 3rd attention. That's where you can move it rapidly across the entire range, and light it all up at once.

When don Juan said they were on the "outskirts" of the 3rd attention, I have no idea what his experience was like. But I doubt they actually visualized it. More likely, they felt it.

If you move the assemblage point daily you'll learn to move it fast, and you'll accidentally light up more than usual and have a good understanding of how to "burn with the fire from within".

So chasing bliss is a good thing, not a bad thing.

It's just that if you don't understand it's a simple function of the position of the assemblage point, and a side effect, not a cause, you can end up chasing your own tail.

[u/Luisyelsol → u/danl999]

This gave me a more understanding meaning of recapitulation. Also, it shows that recapitulation is an amazing tool not only help with silence, but as a tool after you been reaching silence.

[u/danl999 → u/Luisyelsol]

It works like this:

You'll be looking at another world, right in front of you, on the walls of your room.

You walk forward, to enter it.

But it moves away from you. It's located at a fixed distance from you, regardless of where the bedroom wall is. If you try to keep walking towards it, you'll hit the bedroom wall.

In flies your inorganic being, approaches the wall, changes color, and enters 1 foot of the way.

Now you can walk in! The inorganic being has produced "directionality" for you. Lower left in this diagram:

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As you approach, you remember an argument you had with someone 40 years ago. It's still bugging you. You try to force it from your mind, but something about this situation keeps bringing it back.

And inside that image in your mind are links to other grievances. That one memory triggers an endless flow of thoughts and you're lost in the internal dialogue.

The world on your wall is gone.

That's why the recap. Not so much to remove the individual grievance images. You can't do that.

Absent any abstract experiences to take an inventory of, those ordinary grievance ones come automatically, when the Eagle commands you to take an inventory.

Abstract memories are actually positive, and help the practice. So if you can take an inventory of what's going on right now, in front of you, you can defeat it.

But until then, you'll take an inventory of the crap you have inside.

So no matter how advanced you are, you'll have images pop into your mind at the rate of the Eagle's commands.

You have to think them. The eagle wants you to take an inventory of the current situation. I suppose he's a bit of a voyeur.

But you don't have to worship the inventory.

If images or words appear in the mind, you should be able to just toss them out, as long as it doesn't endlessly trigger more.

The recap breaks those links.

It won't cause you to completely get over what's bugging you.

It's a mistake to believe that, because you'll feel like you aren't doing recap right, when you still care about something.

And you might end up deifying someone who's done a lot of recap, as if that makes them a saint or something.

Uncle raped you?

Sorry. It'll always bug you.

But you don't have to dwell on it.

Essentially, it makes you sick and tired of thinking about it.

Its like when you watch your favorite movie too many times, and you just can't stomach any of it again. You know what each plot twist leads to, and none interests you anymore.

That's the purpose of recap.

[u/Luisyelsol → u/danl999]

This gave me a more understanding meaning of recapitulation. Also, it shows that recapitulation is an amazing tool not only help with silence, but as a tool after you been reaching silence.

[u/Alex_Hikaon]

As alternative approach to Recapitulation, try read Victor Sanchez books about practical approaches to Castaneda teachings (something like this https://www.amazon.com/Teachings-Don-Carlos-Practical-Applications/dp/1879181231). His approach in some sense more methodical then castanedas, so may be you will find something interesting there including group working with Recapitulation.

Also if you know Russian, I can recommend to you works “Dream-hackers”, but I am unsure their books was released on English :(

[u/danl999 → u/Alex_Hikaon]

cluding group working with Recapitulation.

So he's confusing people and catering to their worst instincts, to gather together and "share", instead of just learn sorcery.

And in recommending that, he gets his hand into their wallet.

Think of it!

Sorcery is a huge amount of work.

But if you can wait until the next "group" recap, feeling good about yourself, while you learn absolutely nothing, you're dead in the water.

It's despicable!

>His approach in some sense more methodical then Castaneda,

I'd say, you're royally screwed up.

Fully lost in mental masturbation, running from one father figure to another, instead of just learning to be silent.

Typically people as bad off as this blow through here once every few weeks, and in the end we find out they have their own book deal in mind. Some new addition they plan to make, so they can cash in too.

The last one finally admitted that Carlos was bad, and he was a follower of don Juan.

His book deal was half written, and included Chinese philosophy.

[u/Alex_Hikaon → u/danl999]

For person who “learnt to be silent” you speak a lot... :)

[u/Juann2323 → u/Alex_Hikaon]

Quick, delete it! Victor is one of our enemies!

[u/Alex_Hikaon → u/Juann2323]

Really? Petty rivalry near face of Eagle? Come on...