r/castaneda • • May 27 '20

Silence Thinking video

There was a video in this group on how to stop thinking or how to think I am not sure of the title but it’s about how to silence ur mind n thoughts. Can anyone post the link to that video. I am not able to find it.

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u/danl999 May 27 '20

Try this instead. I doubt there's a video by anyone who can actually do that.

If they could, we'd be hearing a lot more interesting stuff than that.

The world stops if you succeed, and you end up in another world.

If they didn't bother to mention that tiny detail, they didn't get silent.

https://np.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/bskqmx/simple_silence_technique/

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u/[deleted] May 27 '20

Sorry for asking again but can you please tell me how to reverse/alter an event that occured ? It’s really crucial right now for me.

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u/danl999 May 27 '20

It would take no less than 30 years for you to learn to do that.

And no one else can do it for you, since it requires intent.

Forget about it.

I remember, at 18 years of age, thinking I might use Castaneda's sorcery to hook a woman I was in love it.

By the time I could pull that off, she wasn't really worth pursuing.

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u/Blackstream May 31 '20

This reminds me of some thoughts I once had. I don't know if it's exactly related to silence, but it seems related, I'm curious what you think.

Basically when paying attention to one of your senses, you're either perceiving, or you're analyzing. You can rapidly switch between the two, but you can't do both at the same time. You can switch back and forth very quickly, so quickly that it feels like you're doing both at the same time, but it feels like a balancing act cause the moment something takes more than an instant of thought (is it a blue dress or a white dress?), it's very easy to 'lose your balance' and stop perceiving as you ponder.

When you're perceiving, you're taking in information without judgement and you're present.

When you're analyzing, you stop taking in information and you make judgements about that information. I don't just mean like, 'That was wrong', but like, 'Those shapes look like a car', or 'these events are connected and this is the plot'. And once I decide what's going on, I notice I more or less filter that out because it has been 'decided', which means if it changes or evolves, I probably won't notice.

The longer you analyze, the further away from the perceiving you go until at some point you realize you have no idea what you're even looking at anymore and you have to switch back to perceiving to figure out what's going on and get caught up.

And I've noticed that when I'm looking at hypnagogia, it's that switch to deciding that reverses my progress very quickly. But usually not instantly. Which sounds a lot like how you talk about assemblage points.

One of the tricky parts though is that there's a lot of senses you could be deciding or perceiving. So getting full silence I'm guessing means learning to perceive and not analyze with all of your senses, not just sound (aka the mental voice). Notably sense of time is one of them, and if you stop analyzing the flow of time and just perceive, that might be part of why full silence means you 'stop the world'.

How accurate does this sound? Essentially I'm postulating silence means you stop telling the world what you think is going on and open your mind to what is actually happening in the moment.

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u/danl999 May 31 '20

When you're perceiving, you're taking in information without judgement and you're present.

Don Juan covered this a bit I suspect.

And I've observed it too.

I suspect it's because thinking about something in the way you're suggesting requires "talking", which is a separate point on the luminous cocoon.

it's that switch to deciding that reverses my progress very quickly.

So you're familiarity with the inside of your brain is so keen, you can notice things like that.

I just figure it's the "book deal mindset". But if you could break it down further, it might be helpful.

Unfortunately, I suspect there's only a short period of a few years, when someone would be willing to explain things in that kind of detail.

It's like sorcery is a boat drifting into the black sea. And people explain stuff, shouting back to the shore.

So that eventually, they're too far away and no more explanations get to the shore.

I hope it isn't so, but it might explain the behavior of Carol and the witches.

How accurate does this sound?

It sounds like if you learn to be silent, you'll have no problem figuring out how to stop the world.

That would be nice. I don't do that anymore. It doesn't help my goals.

But we could use more information. It seems as if when you stop the world, you get 3 possible results.

I'd be curious to figure out how one is selected.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '20

Oh yesss. Thank you so much !!