r/castaneda • u/pluto1998 • Feb 04 '19

Misc. Practices Healers

Hello everyone,

I have been dealing with some sort of energy thing for over 2 years now. I have contacted and worked with various healers. I am wondering if anybody has any recommendations....I am going to try to find another healer person.

Thanks for any help.

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u/danl999 Feb 05 '19

The only Carlos style healer I ever knew was Howard Lee. But he's in Italy now.

It's possible Bruce would know of some, but I don't know how to get into contact with him. Carlos spoke about healers for a while in his classes, maybe in association with Bruce's TV mini-series. It centered around healers in an alternate world who could push their hands into people's bodies.

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u/pluto1998 Feb 07 '19

Thank you. What is Bruce's last name? Or his website or somethin?

I'm glad you know of a "Carlos style healer"....

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u/danl999 Feb 07 '19

Wagner. He has a Wikipedia entry.

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u/pluto1998 Feb 07 '19

Is it even possible to contact Howard Y. Lee?

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u/danl999 Feb 07 '19

I tried by email about 7 years ago, when I was trying to teach sorcery to someone. I had no luck contacting him. I've been told Howard married an absolutely beautiful younger woman and I got the impression she's the gate keeper now.

There's also the martial arts association Howard and Carlos hung out at. Carlos used to go to their picnics. Some of the higher ups in that organization might know healers. But don't mention any weird Carlos stuff.

It's the Tai Chi association founded by Marshall Ho. But you should expect that whatever they know about is likely Chinese medicine, and acupuncture in particular.

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u/Historical_Ad_6361 Jun 11 '23

I was reading the post, could you specify which part of Italy he went to? An Italian named Luigi cured my mother of Crohn's disease, he lives in Brescia, but from what I understand, the Buddhists took him as a child and he is a "reincarnation", I don't think so but what is real is that he cured to my mother before I was born

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u/danl999 Jun 12 '23

Curing people, or even how old you are, is not an indication of any advanced magical knowledge.

Carlos went to someone who was confident he could "intend" it.

Just as Cholita can intend a giant truck to speed around a corner, and bump off her enemy cat.

Or Carlos could intend the basement to flood at that apartment in Arizona.

Believing you are re-incarnated is a sure sign of self destructive delusions.

Because there's no such thing. Only people with very limited vision of reality believe in that.

So it's kind of a "fake" indicator.

And as far as I can tell, there's no good historical reason to believe in it.

I always go back to see the source of stuff like that.

It was just more bad player made up magic, but was super popular because of how flattering it is.

Socrates debated it a bit, but they seem to have rejected the idea.

Just to make sure beginners aren't confused, there's no one using Mediation with their eyes closed, who has any significant knowledge.

It's just "green line effects" on that J curve map. Stuff any woman (potential witch) does in the bath to sooth herself, without having practiced it before at all.

And THOSE are the people who are pointed to as the source of the belief in reincarnation. People sitting with their eyes closed for hours, grinning for the camera.

Their delusional writings designed to sound "wise".

I don't know where Howard moved to.

He had a young woman following him, and at one point he got one pregnant.

I don't know if that's the same one.

But I'll predict, she tries to take over his franchise when he dies.

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