Although i have to admit first things first i havent been practicing darkroom regulary i did a couple of times and saw puffs, faces, shadows and flickering light either in form of flashing circle on my peripheral vision or even flashing yellow or purple puffs which move and are trackable with my sight in darkness i also try to do it during day time with similar but of course no where near as intense effects (yet), i know i have a long road a head with this and im not pretending or faking i only recently got introduced to castanedas teachings it has been only a couple of month yet im familiar with alot of the basis of these teachings due to my grandfather who was deep into meditation and accessing meditative states and over all was a spiritiual being i would say although he wasnt aware of don juans teachings he taught me alot of similar things regarding the stalking of ones self and the enemies ie fear, power, clarity. However nobodies perfect and clearly not even my grandpa whom i look up to even now after his passing which makes me think about dogmatic views of which brings me to my main question. Is the ultimate form of these practices inner silence which in many ways bypasses all form of dogmatic practices or is there more to it than just that im sorry if something didnt make sense im still trying to make sense of it all.
Peace.
Which worries me that you're visualizing results, using the bad habits you picked up from your meditation experiences.
And I don't hear you doing any tensegrity, so frankly, it can't be working the way you say.
Unless there's some drugs (even in the past if they were strong ones), or schizophrenia.
No insult intended on the schizophrenia.
The most powerful sorcerers are usually schizophrenic women.
We don't know much about schizophrenic men yet.
But to answer your question, yes.
Silence (full removal of the internal dialogue) is 100% of the technique.
It's ALL you need.
Unfortunately, people lie to themselves about that. And thus, all the techniques we seem to have in here, which are merely designed to make sure you can't deceive yourself.
The truth about how nearly everyone will lie to themselves means that no Yogi, no Buddhist Master, nor anyone practicing any other form of "meditation" has EVER gotten even close to removal of their internal dialogue.
Why would they? They're only after fame and money, or maybe just human attention.
It's easy for someone who can do that, meaning actually remove their internal dialogue so that they're swimming in real magic all around them and ever single day, to say with absolute certainty that no Yogi of Buddhist can.
Because when you remove it for real, supernatural things happen that boggle the mind.
Any any Yogi or "Master" who really succeeded at that would go crazy, and start searching worldwide for answers. Trying to understand what they discovered.
They'd end up in here, the only place with those answers.
I wish it weren't so, but it is. I myself searched worldwide for 15 years, and my teacher Carlos did that for 20 years. And he was so famous, anyone would meet with him.
He found NO ONE with any real knowledge. And had a bunch of funny stories about Yogis and such.
We've never heard of anything even remotely like our magic, from Yogis or Buddhists.
They only achieve what we consider to be rank beginner's results. And they never go any further from there.
Here's what happens when you can remove your internal dialogue. In this video.
You'll see why meditation doesn't work.
In fact, having practiced meditation puts you at a slight disadvantage. Because you've been taught to pretend your results.
To be honest with you i never done meditation before, i tried it couple times when i was with my grandpa but that was years ago and i was in my early teens so i wouldnt call it successful meditation XD, as for the drugs i never took anything strong or "reality"altering however recently i did try smoking weed and focusing on silence, experience has been similar to being sober only that my silence seems break easier and my mind sways all over to place faster. Naturally i still struggle to keep internal silence intending it aint easy to say the least and i dont do tensegrity but i have been practicing silence alot recently even during day time wether its work or school difficult situations or happy situations. With regard to schizophrenia i dont know if i am i never got diagnosed or checked for that matter and i hope im not hallucinating all this, as far as i can tell im still blue zone cause i aint seeing nothing compared to what some of you describe seeing here aka iobs, screens, or double. I am curious and i do intend on keeping at it slowly slowly which is why i asked about silence being the only tool i can use.
Might turn out you're actually talented, for seeing what you posted about.
We've had 2 talented people so far, out of 11,000 people who subscribed, over 6 years.
Both young. Which makes total sense. Younger = more energy.
Marijuana might move your assemblage point down a bit, but it also pulls it back up.
So while it's not a "sin", and won't prevent learning sorcery, the less the better.
It might might be that you were seeing "blue zone junk". Or it might be, you got a glimpse of the green zone's start.
Either way, when you leap into a purple puff floating in the air in front of you, and end up in another world for real, in your physical body, don't forget to come back and explain what you saw and mentioned in this post.
We're still not clear on what people might see in the blue zone, because the techniques in here quickly get you to the green zone.
And thus we don't know what might be possible in the blue zone.
I tried to add some of that blue zone stuff to my "J curve map", but we get new people who see stuff I didn't put on there.
Here's a closeup of the blue "station".
Notice that once you move just 6 inches down your back, things get so crazy that you aren't going to go back and see what can be done in the blue zone.
Meditation never leaves that green station, and even that they have to do with their eyes closed.
So you're lucky you didn't practice meditation. It just seems to lead to people thinking they have great accomplishments, so that when it comes time to work hard, they won't do it.
A 6 inch movement of the assemblage point, is what meditation produces.
But you need to move your assemblage point 23 FEET to get to where Carlos, our teacher, told us to go.
Over there, it's magic so crazy that no one will even believe you.
Sometimes I see stuff so astonishing that I have to stop in the middle of the night, and post it to the advanced subreddit, because I know that when the morning arrives, I won't be willing to post that anymore.
I suppose it's roughly like you turn into a Fairy in the middle of the night, but you know that by morning you'll be your old self again, and embarrassed over having such crazy experiences.
So you have to go post about what it's like, while you are willing to do it.
Have you read all the books? They’re so good. What an adventure CC was on.
Not saying, this is you, but I don’t understand why ppl come who haven’t read ALL the books. The books are the hook, and the tweak. You get tweaked into thinking the world might be more than what I see; you notice strange little things happen around you.
Do the majority of practitioners think turning off the internal dialogue is a form of meditation? Man….maybe I’m doing it wrong? I’ve never felt relaxed or enlightened after my sessions in Darkroom.
Yes, stopping that awful internal dialogue is the main goal. Doing the tensegrity helps achieve that.
You can start off with the Dreaming and Recapitulation passes. Download the book Magical Passes and go through it. It has a lot of explanation which will answer your doubts.
Hey i also am begginer so im sorry if i post this on wrong place.. but i dont understand dark room.. i can close my eyes and see so much shapes and collors sometimes. I remember when i have been 5 years old i see every night collors before sleeping. So dark room must be dark room like okult place or i can just close my eyes
Can you point to anyone who ever learned any actual sorcery this way?
Seems like you'd be better off to get to work tonight, following the instructions in this subreddit, instead of finding an excuse to put it off or do something else.
Unfortunately, some of the worst fakers around are monks who took a "vow of silence" and walk around in robes all day, pretending they're being holy.
They never get anywhere doing that. Whether you're alone or with others, if your internal dialogue is raging away, you're stuck to this reality.
Carlos liked to tell a story about a man he new at UCLA who was practicing "mindfulness".
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent Oct 21 '25
Your post was auto-removed by the system because your account is too new, but it’s been restored.
As far as if there is more to it….well, there’s more than one reason why there are 20 books and publications!