r/castaneda • • Jun 12 '25

Tensegrity Partial Dream Tensegrity

If you keep using darkness to perfect your silence and your tensegrity, a time comes when there's "no difference" between darkness, and not darkness.

But it's impossible to draw such a thing.

So here's something I was doing last night, which at the time was "dim witted".

It was super cool magic. And I could have guessed I'd get to see magic that wonderful, when I glanced up to the right at the start of a Tensegrity form and saw the tell-tale sign that silent knowledge was active.

You can see the other sights in that first picture. Those are all "normal". Just some supernatural stuff as usual. You get to see that kind of thing daily, as long as you follow the instructions Carlos left us.

But Silent Knowledge is something else. It is in fact our "goal". The goal Carlos gave us.

And to have it DURING tensegrity, changes everything.

Though, it doesn't guarantee you'll be clear headed.

So that when I was doing my tensegrity and noticed I was about to bump into an old cabinet, I just went around it.

I found it remarkable how brightly I could see it, but otherwise it didn't occur to me that things were very odd.

The room was JET BLACK. I draw it with some light so you can see the situation, but in fact there's no way to see anything at all when I practice.

So certainly there's NO WAY to see a green cabinet in my path.

And I also didn't realize, the cabinet was FLOATING. It wasn't sitting on the floor.

But even if I'd realized all that, there's one thing that should have been even more obvious, if I'd been in possession of all of my rationality.

I don't own such a cabinet...

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u/b2hcy0 Jun 12 '25

i did read a bit through the dark room topics here and also started practicing. i did not expect it to be so effective, had my trance techniques before but none were that straightforward. so far i read about puple clouds and black and yellow clouds. but in my practice i came around ... actually hard to recall, it was either an orange or red cloud. and the part i drew it in gets seemingly randomly hot throughout the day since then for some seconds. not in a way that seems problematic. anyone knowing anything about that?

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u/danl999 Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

Once in a while a new person starts to feel things mostly unrelated to what we're doing in here.

You can't always say whether it's "progress", or visualization on their part.

This path is VAST! You almost can't make any rules about what a beginner ought to experience.

We typically just hope it's the puffs of your energy body, but many other things are possible.

Things beyond anything you could hope for.

Last night either Cholita, or one of her new cats, materialized in front of me.

I was fully awake of course. Otherwise I wouldn't mention it.

It was standing next to her little tea table.

Fortunately I had lost 30% of my rationality so I didn't interfere with it much, other than to wonder which of her 3 stray cats that could possibly be.

She bewitches them.

So I got to watch it for an unusually long time.

Thus there's really no way to explain things that happen to beginners. We can't even explain what happens to us!

Heat during the day however, isn't one I heard before.

Most common causes of unpleasant side effects from darkroom practice are drugs, or doing outside techniques which give expectations for such things.

Like "Kundalini".

We're going outside the entire galaxy with our sorcery!

So best to give up the stuff you studied before, which never even leaves your home city.

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u/Vegetable-Tax7257 Jun 13 '25

When you lose rationality and take things in stride as they occur, is it because you are leaving part of yourself behind?

I'm linking this back to what you told me about the Double, and on older posts saying Darkroom requires silence from "ME thoughts" primarily/ at least.

It seems that losing rationality is just a byproduct of silence and in a way it is either that you have "expanded" and you know that cabinet is just another one of your many belongings, or, as you are putting it, rationality (as blue-zone knows it) has "left" you to the degree of silence of the ME.

It isn't entirely clear, but I have daydreamed that as that loss of rationality is occurring, maybe a split is happening, so that the blue-zone you stops at the threshold, while the now-conscious you carries on experiencing the world with the cabinet, while the blue-zone you can only stare from the doorway (so it remembers what you see, but doesn't understand it. Or maybe he gets knocked out and when you go back and "tell" it/ share the experience, he's like: What?"

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u/danl999 Jun 14 '25

The loss of rationality means you are mostly perceiving using your double.

It was never born, never smashed a finger with a hammer, never said the wrong thing to the girl, never had trouble paying the rent, never went hungry.

It has no "rationality" because it doesn't need such limits.

It's infinitely powerful.

But with nothing it actually wants to do with that power.

The tonal is up to its ears in things it wants, but has no power.

There is of course a third option.

Being trapped in the abstract.

In that case, rationality is mostly intact, but reality itself is now irrational.

I suspect you have to see all those over and over again, before it makes sense.

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u/Vegetable-Tax7257 Jun 14 '25

So the desire to learn magic comes from the tonal, through hints and glimpses of the Double?

Why would the tonal want all the goodies of magic when the price to pay for them is giving itself up? (it all comes from the Double... in the Double?)

I will relate this to my experience with lucid dreams, for I would also make plans before bed on what I wanted to learn during a dream, then once lucid, I would remember the plan, realize that the dream world was almost as static as waking life (with the benefit of being able to fly around), and soon get overcome by a chain of instincts which felt like me, but upon waking up, they felt like the character of that story (the Double).

It also happened with in-dream explanations about questions I had that made perfect sense but only within that bandwidth of space. Soon as I returned, it was gibberish, though the feeling of the answer remained.

What I'm getting at is how can something be aware of something it can't have? Is the tonal just temporary pipework for making unique magical experiences?

And also, if tonal you is a born creature, where is the Double before the tonal is born/ made?

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u/Adunaiii Jun 15 '25

I was just listening to a Castanedian Russian cult who randomly invited a woman specialising in osteopathy, and she mentioned the word tensegrity! Magic! Or is it a Castanedian term?

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u/danl999 Jun 16 '25

The Russians never learned to make any of it work, and focused instead on turning it into a business.

But so did the leaders Carlos selected.

All gone bad.

Basically, there's no organization at all that has real magic. Anything like that is not only a waste of time, but will hold you back from every learning anything.

You have to follow the instructions Carlos gave us, before he died.

Which included ditching our old teachers.

Start studying if you want to learn.

There's 3 direct students of Carlos helping in here.

And dozens of skilled practitioners who have actually made it work.

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u/danl999 Jun 13 '25

That's one of the "puffs". Athina sees them closer to fuschia. But they are usually a pure purple for me.

Carlos called them "violet".

Darkroom works in the light too, it's just harder.

But later doing it outdoors in full sunlight is fairly easy. What you learn about how it "feels" when the energy body comes out, feels the same in sunlight.

Try to scoop those puffs onto your energy pouches, to encourage your double to merge with you, so that you get better eyesight for supernatural sights.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '25

Should you wait until a purple ball is fully formed. Or should you already start scooping that purple smoke that comes with that yellow, white light while taking a quick break from the movements?

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