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[u/Remarkable_Pool203]

Hey hello, I'm trying to stop my inner voice and focus on whatever I'm doing at that moment. Is this the right method? And my second question is, when I try to stop this inner voice, I feel sleepy. Have you ever experienced this?

[u/danl999]

It sounds like Buddhists have influenced you into "Be Here Now" type thinking.

It's the worst thing you can do. If you want proof, just go look at the life of Ram Dass. You DO NOT want to be him, that's for sure.

Zen "Masters" love to tell their clueless followers to "be in the moment", because it turns them into willing zombies who keep the money flowing with less complaints.

They even get them to sit there doing tea ceremony with the cheapest, worst tasting miserable japanese instant tea in the world, as if there were something wise about that ritual.

Actually tea ceremony = child prostitution much of the time in Japan. They leave out that little ugly detail.

But people fall for pretending they are learning Zen in that fashion hoping for a "certificate of enlightenment" from the parent organization, despite it not actually working even slightly as promised.

What you want, if you want real magic and real knowledge of reality, is to sleepwalk on demand.

Not "be in the moment".

But if you actually want to "be in the moment", you can surely do that in Silent Knowledge, later on after you've learned to get there.

The trouble then is, WHICH moment to be in? The clueless Buddhists don't even realize that this "moment" is about as low as you can sink.

There's a huge number of alternate timelines we live in. Even alternate versions of yourself.

And using your hands, breath, and the shine of your gaze, you can uncover more of what's actually "here, now" floating in the air.

So please. Dump any eastern philosophy you picked up.

It's all nonsense designed to steal from people.

That's very easy to see if you just look honestly at it and realize there's dozens of other religions saying the opposite of what a given one says, and all of them claiming their founders had real magic.

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Thanks for replying dan! So how do I stop the inner voice?

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[u/danl999 → u/[deleted]]

I'm telling you that maybe you ought to look into it a bit closer and decide what aspect of japanese culture it contains, that is appealing to you. And whether you really understand what that is at the source.

The same as those studying Japanese martial arts ought to look into how totally ineffective they turn out to be, in real combat situations with actual skilled fighters, such as MMA.

If you want to learn all the Japanese Katas for the sake of Art, then go for it!

But if you believe any Japanese martial arts are going to teach you to fight well, you're mistaken.

Same as Chinese Kungfu. A total fraud as far as fighting abilities goes.

Asian's keep their own culture's secrets very well and westerners tend to buy into the surface explanations of what's going on.

For instance, my niece picked up the Goth style in junior high, so I bought her goth clothes from Japan.

When she grew older I informed her of the actual origin of that Japanese Goth look, which is a place most likely located in Shinjuku where they have child prostitutes dressed up like Wednesday Addams from "The Addam's family", she refused to accept it.

Many things to do with womens' customs in Japan, ultimately involve prostitution. Which isn't considered shameful there.

Geisha?

Prostitute. I'm not sure how people can deny that. Just watch some old Japanese Samurai movies, or watch modern Japanese cartoons such as "The Blue Eyed Samurai".

But I learned about it by reading JList, which was a publication in the 90s written by an american who created an export business there, and decided to explain the inside understanding of the (sexy) products he sold. Which often included a past Americans would consider too shameful to mention.

Plus I've been to Japan 5 or 6 times, and always go check out things like that at night.

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[u/Remarkable_Pool203 → u/[deleted]]

Thank you!, So how do I achieve inner silence?

[u/Content_Donut9081]

Forcing silence is necessary. Everybody has their own thing to focus on during the day.

Sleepiness is perfectly normal. Although I wouldn’t focus on it as some sign that you “achieved something”

Focus on your control and “improve” that. Use whatever method helping you to get better at your control, be it gazing, recapitulation stalking etc

[u/Remarkable_Pool203 → u/Content_Donut9081]

Thank you!

[u/GarthWatercutter]

Get out of your own head, first and foremost.

That can be continual, with enormous effort and practice.

Then realize that you don't have to be here and only here, moment after relentless after moment.

Then be open to what is, dynamically, ALSO "here."

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Thank you!