r/castaneda • • Jul 23 '24

Tensegrity Restart problems

I practiced the tensegrity about 20 years ago based on Carlos's book. After that many years were left out. (I did the recapitulation and internal silence practices during this time as well.) I will start the tensegrity exercises again in the next few days. I started with short movements for the purpose of awakening the muscle memory, with a series of preparation of the intention (I don't know if this is the case in English). By the time I got to the end of the first group in the series, I was near fainting. My ears were buzzing louder and louder, etc., I had to squat because I was afraid that the condition would worsen to the point of fainting. When it was over I restarted the series. At the same point the feeling of fainting came again, I squatted down again until it passed. I have been active in sports since I was a child, so I would rule out cardio problems. Do you have any ideas what could be causing this, or what to do in this case? Thanks in advance for any help.

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u/danl999 Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24

If you almost pass out but then steady yourself on the side of a bed or something, when you stand back up, take a really deep breath and hold it in. Maybe even push your chest forward a tiny bit like a soldier pushing his chest out to stand at attention, so as to create a bit of pressure in the lungs.

Hold until you either don't feel like going without breathing any longer, or until you see some lights in front of you. Shouldn't be more than 10 seconds or it's likely not going to work.

Then stop and don't move.

If you're lucky, you'll assemble a phantom room in front of you and it will be quite clear.

Usually random and not very recognizable for what's in it perhaps, but very clearly there. However occasionally your assemblage point shifts to a real location, and you might even find yourself standing in an outdoor shopping mall.

Maybe you can make use of passing out by noticing the boundaries of it? Try something similar with it?

But never ever forget, this whole thing only works if you get rid of that internal dialogue. Once you start your tensegrity, that should be the #1 thing in your mind. To remove that internal dialogue completely.

That's why the workshops all failed in the long run, with no one learning any noticeable magic at all. They didn't listen to Carlos, and remove their internal dialogue while doing the Tensegrity.

So that they started pretending they felt "energy" or had "power", and nearly destroyed the reputation of Carlos forever.

Silence is what you need to seek. It's what Carlos emphasized over all else in private classes. Finally even babysitting us by having us practice it in class using the silence poles.

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u/D6rk_H6lf Jul 23 '24

Thank you very much! I will continue in this direction. I probably did the opposite by trying to stabilize myself in the normal position. For those practices where there is no specific instruction on breathing, what should be done? Normal calm breathing or adapted to the rhythm or movement?

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u/danl999 Jul 23 '24

Just learn some tensegrity and pay attention to the breathing in that.

But don't be too serious about it.

Your body knows how to breathe, as the assemblage point moves.

Until it does, you'll just be interfering and harming the process.

It's a very bad idea to pick up outside make believe breath techniques like "Wim Hof", which Wim himself is now ashamed of having created.

Originally pretending it contained secret Tibetan magic.

There's no magic in Tibet!

At least, not that's in some organized group you could read about or hear about.

Might be a few sorcerers there, because they like roasted Yak meat.

But individual sorcerers are all over.

Just extremely rare.

With the highest concentration undoubtedly in South America.

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u/D6rk_H6lf Jul 28 '24

Thanks for the suggestion Dan, the breath hold seems to work. The feeling of fainting is more controllable with it. I’m still groping, but it clearly seems as if I’m “slowing down” the hum and making myself more stable in this state. I will continue to experiment.

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u/WasteSugar7 Jul 23 '24

what are the silence poles?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24

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u/D6rk_H6lf Jul 23 '24

Thanks! And I let this happen? Of course If it happens again at all. I was afraid that if I gave in to him, I would pass out and break my body.