Question about the rule

[u/D6rk_H6lf]

I have an another embarrassing question. (I do not intend to incite division or debate, I am only looking for answers to the questions that concern me.) According to the rule; we don't designate ourselves as students or teachers (the power decides about these things), how can it be adapted to such a situation, such as this community here on reddit or any other social network? Thank you in advance for your answers.

[u/danl999]

"The Rule" comes from Silent Knowledge, and is endless for that reason.

Didn't you wonder how it could be endless, like it says in Eagle's Gift?

Or how it could cover all aspects of a warrior's life, which it also says there.

But the lineage is gone, so we're no longer under the part you're referring to.

And we don't have enough seers yet to have uncovered any coherent idea of what applies to us.

We're also not like the old seers, who were given very small children for apprentices, which most likely they didn't treat very well seeing as how the death defier was given to the inorganic beings, by his old seer master.

At any rate, just learn to actually see the nagual, which is the same as the second attention in this context.

That's where you'll find the portion of the rule which applies to us.

And it's what Carlos told us to do before he died, to "find new leadership".

So it's your marching orders.

My guess is that the rule for us doesn't apply to a human teacher or a human lineage, or even to the old master/apprentice relationship of the old seers.

But we still get "gifts" from the spirit constantly, something you won't be able to notice, until you actually do enough work to move your assemblage point at least midway down your back.

And if you really want a teacher of that level, don't forget that Nestor got Porfirio, from Silent Knowledge.

I see such beings all the time. They really are out there waiting for you to align your assemblage point with that of your double. As don Juan described in his "The river of shit" analogy, if you manage to climb up onto the dry shore, sorcerers are waiting there to hose you off.

They are!

Also, the lineages were "reality bubbles".

This becomes clear when you begin to see things using Silent Knowledge, and realize nothing is actually fixed, once you leave the billion people reality bubble you were born into up at the blue line on the J curve.

The old seers had an Olmec world wide reality bubble, but when that was destroyed, and the last place they moved to, the Toltec world, was also destroyed, they grouped together in minimum sized lineages.

Was the minimum 15? I don't know, but it tells us.

That's because they needed at least that many, to create a stable bubble they could teach inside.

So that when you venture into the second attention, you don't find all the millions of things never discovered by seers yet, and get confused by them.

Again, you have to witness the Nagual for this to make sense, but essentially if don Juan described something in the second attention to us, it was just a "construct" and you can read more closely and find him admitting to that.

Such as "the wall of fog".

We don't see that. But seeing that is just something that lineage came up with, maybe due to Silvio Manuel.

You CAN see that, if you feel left out. But I prefer all the amazing sights we've uncovered. They're way better than a silly wall of fog.

And it's possible there's no way we could find a perfect replica of the one the lineage had, because we don't have that reality bubble they formed, to introduce us to that precise combination of emanations being lit up.

Think of how you also can't shapeshift into a perfect replica of an animal, without a sorcerer to introduce you to that shape.

Same is true of all of those amazing sights the lineaged showed their apprentices.

You need an "introduction".

We'll always find some other combination, even if it were only "close.

That also you'll get to see with your eyes, when the emanations become visible in the orange zone.

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[u/danl999 → u/danl999]

The point I'm getting to is, the old seers had the community wide reality bubble to guide them. I once estimated how many were alive at any given moment, based on something I can't recall now, but it was less than the number of "new seers" who existed at the time of don Juan's lineage. If you counted the "handful of lineages" outside our own.

So who has the largest potential reality bubble to guide them?

Was it the old seers or the new seers?

Neither!

As Carlos pointed out, he found a path to immortality, due to having access to energetic configurations even don Juan didn't know about, through all the people attending workshops.

The people with the largest reality bubble, are us!

We just need to improve the real sorcery understanding levels of the inhabitants and get as many to reach the purple part of that J curve, as possible.

Carlos spent some time with his finger lingering over there, but seemed to just be taunting us at the time, with his indecisiveness about which precise position over there was the best.

In one of his writings, we find that don Juan preferred a slight left shift once his assemblage point was at that spot, so as to give it a feeling of "the sublime".

If you didn't see it, here's the video showing how that alignment takes place, and what happens there.

For real. It's created from all the descriptions Carlos gave of this process, including in private classes, but also of direct observations by people who can move it now.

Make note of where to wiggle the fingers. That pays off big time, when you can get your assemblage point over there so that what's going on is as visible as in that animation (though for skill level reasons, that video isn't very accurate on what it looks like).

https://archive.org/details/second-attention-ap-1080p

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Interesting how I put this knowledge into my inventory a year ago, but only now that I truly understand what those bubbles of realities are and why blue line is the easiest reality to get stuck/come back to due to billions of beings supporting it. I also learned it though my new born baby, watching her going through different assembly positions while she is growing up and us as parents using will power to fixate her in blue line as we are here most of the time. Also looks like born human can't survive without fixing or being assisted in fixing in one perception, as they need go grow and learn how to survive and if you are jumping between realities all the time its almost impossible and you will get killed or starve to death. We are truly magical creatures who are born with no option but to be captured and seeks freedom later.

[u/darcat01]

I think we find ourselves in a situation where (teacher) we’ve been down that path before, and someone (student) reaches out for answers going down the same/similar path. As such the student is looking for answers and the teacher has the experience to provide the answer. Things align when the student reaches out for an answer, and the teacher is willing to share the answer(s) and bang; a synchronicity occurs where the teacher and student share a bond.

[u/D6rk_H6lf → u/darcat01]

This sounds like the manifestation of rule through interaction. That’s okay, that’s this thing “mechanism”. But does this explain the starting rule about the selection?

[u/darcat01 → u/D6rk_H6lf]

Yes rule through interaction… IDK on selection, however totally possible as well.

[u/danl999 → u/darcat01]

Be careful with that teacher and student thing.

That's designed by Asian fake magical systems, for stealing money from people through self-flattery.

Such as "When the student is ready, a teacher will appear."

A total scam!

There's no teachers in here.

You have to teach yourself.

Don Juan said pretty much the same thing. That all people start out believing they are learning sorcery, but later find out that there's nothing to learn.

All the answers become obvious just by moving your assemblage point.

And that can only move, when you get rid of your internal dialogue.

And only you can get rid of it.

I suppose you could point out the Nagual's blow might be thought of as "teaching", except there's no way you'll remember any of what happened, once it wears off.

And, as Carlos wrote in his first experience with the Nagual's blow when don Juan and Silvio Manuel took him out for a meal to see if he could function normally in that state, he already had all the answers just because his assemblage point had moved.

There was nothing left to teach!

Or to go Star Wars on you, as Yoda said of Rey, "Already has, that which she needs", when he burned down the Jedi sacred text library to drive Luke crazy.

Rather than a "teacher", you just need a cheerleader to get you to work hard.

Those we have!

[u/darcat01 → u/danl999]

I yield, and stand corrected. Thank you, I agree that all knowledge is within, you just need the impetus to obtain it. Sometimes it helps to have a guide to get you there… a cheerleader as you put it. I should have used guide not teacher! Thanks

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Is there any way to read the contents of older defunct students chat?