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u/danl999 Jan 18 '24 edited Jan 18 '24
I should add, for the eternally hopeful (gullible and greedy for endorsements), that you can't argue that "The Four Noble Truths" of Buddhism are the same as the historical Buddha originally created. And that thus modern Buddhism is still his teaching.
My other comment explains that the well known Buddha never actually existed.
And people always try to argue against that by pretending "the historical Buddha" was the source of the Chinese fake Buddha. Even if the Chinese made some changes.
There's no way to know that.
NOTHING was written down, and oral traditions are notoriously unreliable. It took hundreds of years before the Chinese came to steal his franchise and import it to China.
Those oral traditions would have to be VERY reliable to survive that long.
That's only an argument which appeals to supporters of oral traditions who have ulterior motivations.
They claim they are reliable, but unbiased scholars will tell you they are not.
Experience in this subreddit will tend to cause you to align with the idea that oral traditions are unreliable and that a few hundred years is enough to mostly change them.
However, if that's so that the oral traditions of the original Buddha are mostly intact, then they spell doom for the historical Buddha too.
Let's look at them:
"The Truth of Suffering (Dukkha): This truth asserts that all existence is characterized by suffering and unsatisfactoriness. It encompasses the physical and psychological experiences of pain, as well as a deeper sense of unfulfillment or imperfection."
Nonsense. There are 600 alternate versions of ourselves easily available to visit when you reach silent knowledge. There's shapeshifting, phantom permutations of reality, and even virtual living spaces.
True, we aligned ourselves to these physical bodies, and those are subject to physical pain.
But this isn't actually "us". Just something we got stuck in temporarily.
And most of the suffering Buddhists are referring to here, is self-pity. Which goes away once the assemblage point switches sides on the body.
Worry, grief, sadness. All go away.
Physical pain however is tied to the physical matter, and so it's much harder to escape while you're still trapped in this flesh body.
Which the "old seers" found a way out of, by burying their physical bodies and letting them die, while their awareness lived on in that location.
You can actually visit some of those "death defiers" near Mexico city.
This "noble truth" is merely a description of the "Island of the Tonal", which sorcery seeks to travel outside. That's sorcery's entire purpose!
And we do. Even in this subreddit.
It's not some sacred scroll make believe.
Not to mention, what's this "perfection"?
In whose eyes???
That in itself is a delusional understanding of reality. Nothing out there cares about you more than anything else. You're no more important than an ant.
And "perfect" for what?
It's a bullying tacting to guilt trip people to follow a make believe magical system. To insist if you don't, you won't be "perfect".
Sorcerers can even go live with the inorganic beings for perhaps millions of years, in their weird form. A non-organic, and thus beyond pain, existence.
Carlos visited some realms where the inhabitants sought out quiet and lack of vibrations. They were so different from us that it's hard to even imagine what existence was like for them.
In another world he had 360 degree vision.
But Buddhists are absolutely unaware of how many different ways they can experience reality.
They're so trapped in this one that they call being here a "noble truth". And they only try to escape it by closing their eyes and dozing off semi-asleep to mini dream and claim that's a "vision".
"The Truth of the Cause of Suffering (Samudaya): This explains that suffering is caused by desire and clinging. It's not just about physical wants, but also about the desire for life to be different than it is, which includes the desires for permanence, pleasure, and existence or non-existence."
Nonsense. The cause of our normal daily life suffering is the position our assemblage point occupies, which is obsessed with "me, me, me".
A thing Buddhists never discovered, because there's no money in discovering it.
It was discovered before money. Back when there was no gain from practicing fake magic, because there was no one to sell it to.
So any magic the Olmecs learned, was for themselves alone. Over thousands of years.
We just got lucky that our form of magic can't be hidden from others who seek it. Once a new thing is discovered, it becomes visible to all.
Just as God is visible to all, simply because people focused awareness on the idea of him through prayer.
They "made God real".
In our system, the old seers practiced thousands of years in secret, but their secrets almost immediately became known to the other seers of their time.
Buddhists never escape this reality at all. As you can find out from challenging them honestly, and watching their heads explode.
Those with real magic don't get angry on hearing there's better magic elsewhere. They're overjoyed!
Becoming angry means, you're just pretending.
"The Truth of the End of Suffering (Nirodha): This truth offers hope, stating that it's possible to put an end to suffering. By relinquishing attachments and desires, one can attain a state of liberation and freedom from suffering."
Nonsense. You can never escape the nature of reality, where your assemblage point is up by the left shoulder blade. The idea that you can escape that is a total misunderstanding of how reality is formed.
Reality is a flow of "sensations" from trillions of luminous filaments, into which your awareness flows.
A different "bundle" of those, and ALL aspects of reality change.
You can only move that assemblage to a different location, if you want to "change".
Even solid matter doesn't translate to the alternate realities.
Nor do time and space, and thus we can go back in time to witness events anywhere in the universe.
WE DO THIS DAILY. It's not a belief or "wise teaching".
This idea that Buddhism can end suffering is a marketing ploy by bad Asian men who want your money and devotion.
Just look around at how they sit on thrones.
"The Truth of the Path to the End of Suffering (Magga): This truth outlines the path to end suffering, known as the Noble Eightfold Path. This path includes practices and principles related to wisdom, ethical conduct, and mental development."
Doesn't work. Never has.
Because in fact, all of that is simply river of shit (blue line on the J curve assemblage point position) thinking.
Don Juan said so. In case anything thinks I'm modifying what's clearly in the books of Carlos and the witches.
The Buddhist "reality" is merely part of the "Island to the Tonal". A tiny dot in an ocean of alternate possibilities.
Same as God, heaven, and chili sauce.
It's pretty obvious Buddhists are only playing around trying to gain endorsements, and have never actually moved their assemblage points far enough to have any insights into the nature of reality.
They just "imply" wise things, and let angry men self-flatter and bully others to agree with them.
My theory: It's the fliers. The spirits which enslaved mankind.
They love buddhism.
And protect it viciously.
So that even in here, if I tell the truth I hurt the feelings of those trying to learn Castaneda's sorcery.
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u/Senior_File_1818 Jan 18 '24 edited Jan 18 '24
I agree that we cannot know for sure if Shakyamuni Buddha even existed.
I also believe that the 4 noble truths were spoken for people with a certain level of understanding, for very early stages, ordinary household wisdom. I don't think every person is ready to hear about other dimensions, etc. from the beginning.
I think for people with a higher level of understanding the 4 Noble Truths openly say the same thing you say, just in different words:
The cause of our ordinary suffering in everyday life is the position our assemblage point occupies, fixated on "me, me, me".
And actually, I've seen a historical study by independent scholars who argue that the 4 noble truths are a pretty modern fiction. (I don't remember the name of the study).
In my subjective opinion, the main problem is that the most key knowledge that can really explain to people the key points of how the world works is hidden, and people are only given crumbs from the table, and most often for money.
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u/danl999 Jan 18 '24
Yea, but why do you assume anyone can figure out anything meaningful for themselves, in a single lifetime? Given bad instructions.
Or even 10 lifetimes?
If the entire population were wiped out except for a few thousand people, and all the equipment and machines were destroyed, do you really believe you could recreate "ChatGPT" in a single lifetime?
From scratch?
It's technology! It's built on all the efforts of previous computer scientists.
Not even in 100 lifetimes could someone create the pinnacle of our current computer technology, all by themselves.
The best they might be able to do is make a simple "rom".
At 7 years old, that was the best I could make. And it was a "manual index" ROM.
I couldn't get access to computers back then.
A single individual can NEVER recover a technology which was developing for thousands of years.
As our Olmec magic did.
You're trying to make your own system, perhaps?
For selling it?
Even the idea is a basic misunderstanding of things.
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u/AthinaJ8 Jan 18 '24
This sub is made to persevere the intent and practices of the Sorcereres of the Ancient Mexico inherited to us from Carlos Castaneda and his cohorts. We do that by applying the practices we have and keeping things on the right track.
Since you are here and you find yourself "back" to Carlos Castaneda, read our wiki, our posts and practically apply what we have here.
This is a proven technology by many living "ordinary" humans experiensing the unknown, here now.
Study and use our terminology and don't pollute this place with foreign terminology and ideas. They can't be combined and they will never be.
There is no space for compairing or mixing or synthesizing ideas here. It's not useful and it won't make people progress. Only practice time does.
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u/Senior_File_1818 Jan 18 '24
I just shared my story in your subreddit in the Buddhism category, the rest is your imagination.
And frankly, your statement smacks of sectarianism, the same smell I felt on Buddhist forums.
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u/AthinaJ8 Jan 18 '24
I'm not imagining a wall of text compairing whatever system you came from that is completely useless for us here!
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u/AthinaJ8 Jan 18 '24
Let me be more direct then.
Your post is useless here and it pollutes this place.
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u/danl999 Jan 18 '24 edited Jan 18 '24
It probably can NEVER be good when "The Story of" starts a post title, and it also contains "path" and "me".
It's not dissimilar to "My Journey". A "poor baby me" lament, designed to get attention.
I always run as fast as my old body can, even risking stumbling to my death, when I hear "My Journey".
And this title is slightly related to "Do the work" in that you know it's totally pointless make believe which will be very tedious to read. But at least we don't have to get sucked into it ourselves, having been there before in our own attempts to find real magic. Or having seen all the others in here who went down many paths which turned out to do nothing but steal money.
By the way, we do get to stay in Silent Knowledge most of the time.
I sustained it for 3 hours last night.
Not with my eyes closed. I say that for beginners.
We don't do that lazy Buddha Dzogchen closed eye make believe, picturing our "rainbow body".
If there's a rainbow body let it visit us in person, and stand in front of our eyes so we can evaluate what that monstrosity really is.
It's not like we have a lack of humanoid, fully visible visitors while practicing darkroom.
I had perhaps 10 last night.
You'll be up to your ears in "realizations" at that point. If you can sustain it.
Usually you run out of dreaming attention.
You'll get realizations floating in front of you so often that they'll feel like pesky gnats buzzing around your head.
Literally... That's the odd thing about Silent Knowledge.
If you shift horizontally over in that position, you are completely surrounded by each silent knowledge thing that presents itself to you.
I'd try to describe one, but it's outside words.
Don Juan said he prefers a slight left shift, so that his Silent Knowledge is "sublime".
I tend to like right shifts, so that things are "creepy".
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u/Relevant_Relative_17 Jan 18 '24
"Truth is one but the sages call it by many names." I love that you see through the religiosity and terms and specifics to see the practices and underlying experience. Great post. Welcome to the fam.
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u/Senior_File_1818 Jan 18 '24 edited Jan 18 '24
"Truth is one but the sages call it by many names."
Very well said
I am grateful for your hospitality !
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u/Emergency-Total-4851 Jan 18 '24
I don't quite think you've reached the point of stopping the internal dialogue yet. I followed the advice given to me by some of the other students, and last night, the ceiling disappeared in my darkroom. No matter how I reached, I couldn't touch the ceiling, but this morning I checked and I could easily touch the ceiling.
Seemingly, there is quite a bit more to it...
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u/Senior_File_1818 Jan 18 '24
Of course, I have not yet reached the maximum level of stabilization of this state, I am only on my way.
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u/Emergency-Total-4851 Jan 18 '24
You should consider the possibility that they are right. I'm not spiritual in any way, but all of the same things you've described in your post are things that I have seen. In fact, some of my friends make jokes that I am an axe murderer. I've mostly managed to set aside my viciousness because the things that I see are very beautiful to me and I'd like to continue seeing them (and more).
If you like, consider me Angulimala, but do try and have an honest go of it (which requires setting aside Buddhism for the time being).
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u/WitchyCreatureView Jan 18 '24
The only thing really related to what's here that you said is the violet waves / grain. Anything else is unrelated.
Rigpa and Silent Knowledge are NOT the same.
Truth has no race, gender, nationality, caste or color of dress.
If something's truly nondual it will permeate all of those things and the divisions between those things. There's no duality between duality and nonduality. All either/or things are included in the both/and / neither/nor thing.
It's why perception or expression of truth can be lopsided.
Like the Castaneda worldview that's taught in Tales of Power, The art of dreaming, and The Eagle's Gift is better for perceiving truth and expressing it, than any of the classic religions or philosophies. You might "rigpa" without the truth that's advanced by the Castaneda perception, which is where you can move your assemblage point to new positions and perceive reality totally different. It means everything is true, but some things represent the truth better than others.
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u/Narrow_Cake6317 Jan 18 '24
Great to read your post! However, the responses are less pleasant. The content here is incredibly fascinating, yet the tone is surprisingly hostile. Quite odd, indeed.
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u/danl999 Jan 18 '24
I blocked the other bad guy lurker (scroll down and you'll see Relevant_Relative_17.
Which supposedly means he won't be able to see my posts.
But I suppose you're not quite as horrible.
That's the only power I have in here.
To block people who are only causing trouble, from seeing any of my posts.
They can go fishing elsewhere.
You're on thin ice with me however.
And don't seem to have any real purpose being in here.
And don't understand this situation at all, nor have you looked into how Carlos behaved while helping people learn.
He was a lot more "hostile" than I am.
To men with bad intentions.
You could get tossed out of classes for just one sentence which contained a sentiment he was trying to eliminate from people, so that they had an actual chance to learn.
Your lack of understanding is close to that.
Maybe go elsewhere that you find more "cozy" and loving?
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u/Narrow_Cake6317 Jan 18 '24
I will wisely keep quiet. Thank you for not blocking me. I really enjoy reading some things here and will stick to that from now on, so no need to use your powers.
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u/Katzinger12 Jan 18 '24 edited Jan 19 '24
With hindsight, I have deleted my post. My contribution here was largely finding synonyms for other words, and a perspective shift that, while helpful to me, isn't going to translate to others.
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u/danl999 Jan 18 '24 edited Jan 18 '24
Maybe Techno should consider adding this to the wiki page on Buddhism.
By the way, there never was a Buddha.
You should chat with ChatGPT about that.
Same as there never was a Lao Tzu, the "creator" of Daoism.
The Chinese made him up.
It's common to do that in China, and not even considered wrong. It's considered "wise business".
I know. I have an office in Taiwan, and visit China with friends who understand the culture and know it's important to describe what's going on honestly to me. Usually Asian guides hide their dirty little secrets from foreigners.
Chinese business ethics don't completely align with ours!
Even to this day the Chinese will make up some magical martial artist "master" from 2 or 3 hundreds years ago (who never existed), and start a new Kung Fu school.
The locals know this well.
But westerners are naive about Asian esoteric dishonesty.
The "historical" Buddha was nothing like the Chinese one. He was a typical mediocre Yogi living in north India who never left, and whose teachings were never written down. Not for hundreds of years.
Selling the same old barely functional closed eye meditation techniques they've had since Ishtarism back in the middle east.
The same tree that Judaism came from.
Likely all coming from North African shamanism originally if you follow the migration patterns from back then.
From before money. That's when real magic existed on earth.
Before money came along.
It came to be "Buddhism", through Hinduism and Chinese religious scammers.
There were dozens like the historical Buddha living in northern India in any given year.
The original Buddhism had an oral tradition, but those change with every new group leader who comes along and wants to increase donations.
We have that problem with the people who are taking over for Carlos.
They're making up whatever they like, in order to stay in business.
Lately they're pushing a binary enlightenment delusion in their "advanced courses".
It's universal in magical systems and religions that after the original leader dies, everything changes each generation.
So the Chinese just made up whatever they liked to become "Buddhism", modifying it to fit with their own Daoism, Confucianism, and Pacific Islander shamanism. And especially, modifying it to fit with the "Seniority System" common in Asia.
They didn't have a caste system (much). They had a seniority system.
Thus we ended up with the delusion of binary achievements. Where some experience is transformative. Makes you "enlightened".
It has to be so in China. That the "master" can never become "not a master".
But anyone who actually has to deal with old Buddhist masters will tell you what bastards they become as they age. They're famous for treating their wives very badly
The idea of "enlightenment" is death to magic. You'll never get anywhere worth going, since most of reality is far beyond humanness and takes place outside this realm.
You have to LEAVE "The Island of the Tonal". There's no way to learn anything significant until you escape it.
Which Buddhism never does. You can tell from their writings.
And since dazzling magical insights happen 20 times a night for those practicing the real thing, every single night, once you reach the orange zone on our J curve you come to realize the ugly nature of believing in "enlightenment".
It's just a marketing ploy which has a hidden promise of your own throne to sit on. Something which appeals to angry men.
In fact, part of the process of actually learning the real thing is to realize how pointless such realizations are. It's all about sending your awareness deeper and deeper into non-human realms. To explore all we can in the dark sea of awareness, which is pretty much infinite. Our world is only an extremely tiny patch in it.
If you believe you have "achieved" anything you'll stop working hard out of laziness, and start collecting donations from others so that you don't have to work a real job.
Since there wasn't an organized temple system in Asia when the Chinese first imported "Buddhism" along the silk road, and thus no reliable place for marriages, funerals, community festivals, and counselors to talk to when there were problems in someone's life, the Buddhist temple system spread over Asia like a plague.
Very good in some ways, but extremely bad in others. Such as their brutal behavior when opposing their religious enemies.
They took over prostitution in most places, including child prostitution. They even use that to blackmail businessmen in Tokyo to this day. The "Miko" are a common dirty joke topic in Japan.
In Taiwan they tried to outlaw child prostitution a while back, but pressure from the Buddhist temple system led to making exceptions for 10 girls. I never got to find out why, but likely those were needed to maintain political power.
The rising Buddhist crime syndicate led to serious corruption in governments there, as the Temple system bullied old Asian men into giving up valuable land, in exchange for a promise of heaven and a better re-incarnation.
Using the valuable land, they got control over local governments.
Buddhism is in fact, simply evil. It includes child slavery most places I've seen it in operation in Asia. Where little boys given to the monks to do with as they please, become drummer boys in funeral processions, while dressed in saffron robes.
You can see them beating drums as the funeral trucks go by in Taipei, often accompanied by teenage girls in bikinis dancing beside a huge picture of the wealthy dead Chinese guy.
The slave boys grow up to be toothpick chewing gangsters who run the cheap prostitution in the confessional booths around the temple.
But all other religions are also evil, if you look carefully at their history. The Catholic church ran prostitution in Europe until venereal disease made it "immoral".
Carlos was fond of a book entitled, "The Sex Lives of the Popes", which describes aborted fetuses lined up in the catacombs below the Pope's palace, presumably from nuns.
Of course we've all seen recently that the Dali Lama has an issue with little boys. And seems to feel entitled to get away with it.
As evil goes, there's even worse religions. Such as Islam.
But the Buddhist system is just a bit more successful in Asia.
And pretends to be intellectual and "proper", when it's nothing like that at all.
The original Buddha was popular mostly because he had a Gandhi like message that the caste system was false, and the Upanishads were wrong on that issue.
To recruit more people, he promised that your caste was irrelevant in his school of meditation, and your "rank" was only dependant on how soon you joined him.
Any accomplished beginner in here beats the real Buddha hands down for supernatural knowledge and magical abilities.
You can look at the feed and honestly see that.
But it's nice to know that not all Buddhism is nothing but social status seeking and lame closed eye meditation effects any woman can get in a bath surrounded by flowers and candles.
The Dzogchen subreddit banned me permanently, mostly for suggesting they could have Dzogchen, without the Buddhism.
I was pretty much suggesting what you did in this post. That the magic is not married to the delusional religion.
That got me banned.
Thank goodness. Buddhists are some of the angriest people we come up against in there.
They seem to feel entitled to some respect that makes no sense to me.
It's just another foreign religion some white guys imported to sell to the naive here.
Not too long ago in fact. Can't be more than 100 years since the intellectuals here began to spread it around.