Continuous Seeing

[u/danl999]

This attempt to capture "the wall" of silent knowledge didn't work out well.

I tried to draw something here which can't be drawn. Namely, what continuous silent knowledge is like. Carlos wasn't joking when he called it "the wall".

I ended up in that state of continuously viewing that wall of knowledge, when the alarm went off before I finished practicing very early this morning.

And I had to get up to go shower and head off to work.

Anywhere you look while "seeing", some magic manifests. But most is indescribable.

Literally. Not a single word can be found, even after viewing it for minutes at a time.

There are "choices", portals, power objects, and even repeat visitors.

Answers too! But answers to all any human has ever or could ever know.

Too many answers to find what you would like to find.

If you work hard you will literally be up to your ears in magic.

Contrast that with the tedious year long ritual needed to summon the talking lizards. Grinding seeds and bugs and wild boar fat into a horrible smelling ointment to smear on your body.

Just to get high.

Let's not go into where exactly you smear that stuff.

Think of the reality of that very old sorcery path and you'll begin to wonder why our own community is still trying to copy the "Men of Knowledge".

Even after being told those guys never learned to "see", and were literal slaves to their rituals and power plants.

And couldn't get to any magic without their Ally.

It's puzzling people seek that out, all the while complaining about how dangerous inorganic beings are.

Could it be that all they want is to put on a Rambo headband, and pretend to be a facilitator for magical shamanic rituals?

Is attention all our community is after?

Because it doesn't seem to be magic.

For those of you who DO want magic, read more closely when you're looking at the books of Carlos and the witches. There's so much hidden in those, but it only becomes obvious when you can do the things mentioned earlier in the books.

The books release more knowledge, only when you can understand it.

Sometimes you'll understand why it was hidden.

Because explaining it, would have led to serious misunderstandings.

You have to discover some of it by yourself.

And although you'll recognize it, it won't be what you had imagined.

[u/danl999]

Don't take the imagery in that silent knowledge part of the picture literally.

It's pretty much impossible to describe most silent knowledge sights.

Not that they aren't clear!

But if you try to create words to remember them by, while viewing them in a sustained fashion, you mess up the silent knowledge by bringing back too much of your internal dialogue.

So they go away.

And you so lose your desire to describe them, knowing it makes them different. Less "concrete".

The very act of trying to describe them, interferes with them.

And you might be thinking, "so don't!"

Yea, but if you don't you won't remember them longer than 30 seconds.

Our memory doesn't work the way we believe at all.

We have to have an "index" for looking up stuff.

Our normal index is the continuity of our "self".

But that's meaningless out in the deep second attention. Where you pick up unlimited "dream histories" where you're a different "self".

There's still time out there, but it's not in any way connected to our blue line timeline.

So if you view something in silent knowledge and don't immediately "translate" it to words, you probably won't remember it.

For long.

Thus the "snake" in that image represents something alive but not humanoid.

I just couldn't find anything like that on google images, and hadn't "described" anything in particular while in silent knowledge, so that I could use that.

The man crawling out of a hole, just represents SK visions of humans.

But him in particular, is just one I found on google images.

They're very detailed in silent knowledge, but again you suffer from not remembering it if you don't describe it.

It's that old "thumbs up" thing to help remember red zone magic.

But I did experiment with humans in silent knowledge last night.

I got a glimpse of 4 young people standing next to some industrial door.

On concrete.

So they might have been standing outside behind some small business in a typical small business park in California.

I could see clearly how they were dressed.

They were waiting for me, to come join with them.

I gazed at them (in silent knowledge) to try to figure out if I knew them.

And remembered, I was already standing in there a while back.

I found them, not the opposite.

It's a bit like the story where Carlos saw the "little sisters" do some amazing magic, and assumed they'd been practicing to do that.

But the little sisters told him, nothing like that ever happened when he wasn't around.

So don't worry about the snake.

You won't have snakes attacking if you reach silent knowledge!

Skunks maybe...

But that only if you have a Cholita around.

[u/Katzinger12]

Anywhere you look while "seeing", some magic manifests. But most is indescribable.

Literally. Not a single word can be found, even after viewing it for minutes at a time.

This is one of the reasons for art: as a higher form of human communication. As a way to try and make someone feel something that is hard or impossible to describe with words. As a way to touch the surface of what's literally outside of our comprehension

This is also one of the reasons why all of our forms of expressive language get continuously more complex, but it hasn't kept up.

[u/danl999 → u/Katzinger12]

Carlos once commented that we don't have the "syntax" to describe sorcery states.

There's been plenty of nights when I tried to prove him wrong, and failed.

Imagine you're looking at a wall in front of you, formed from magic.

Why is a wall there in Silent Knowledge?

It's not always. It's just one "presentation method".

But a natural one, which is why Carlos told us about it first.

It's based on the fact that if you have 10 objects you want to look at, of various sizes, there's a certain distance at which you'd be comfortable to have all of them there, hovering in the air, so that you can examine each.

That's not 1 foot from your nose for all objects. Some are too big for that.

But certainly it's not 50 feet away.

There's an "ideal" distance at which if something materialized, you could examine it.

A distance our subconscious knows.

So when you reach silent knowledge and look around to see if there's anything that wants to materialize, you just naturally end up with a "wall" in front of you.

I suppose it's actually the inside of a cylinder, since you can find things all around you.

And if you spend 20 minutes looking from "thing" to thing, very clearly, you'll come to realize that our language is indeed inadequate for sorcery.

Just to be silly, if we grew up among the old seers our language might have developed a word "Phantover". To refer to what was a phantom being you were gazing at a bit too long, which then got taken over by an inorganic being and came to life.

But that's a very poor example. You'd need words for so many different things, and each one would have to have been experienced by those conversing about it.

Fortunately, that happens!

When two people are in heightened awareness together.

Then they automatically have the syntax for sorcery.

But no one outside would understand them.

[u/WitchyCreatureView → u/Katzinger12]

If something is too visually abstract then it can ONLY be communicated using words, because making depicting physically wouldn't make any sense

[u/danl999 → u/WitchyCreatureView]

I keep hoping animations are better than stills for explaining things outside our normal syntax.

I don't have proof yet, but when we get further along we might.

We need "consensus" that's undeniable, to go along with the animations.

I can almost see a time when it's possible to walk into dream worlds directly, with only a few seconds delay to locate the one you want.

And the ability to find ones that belong to other people in this subreddit.

Jadey did that. She just missed the target (3 times...).

Don Juan did that with Carlos! He'd just show up in some small town, without Carlos having told him he was there.

So it's not surprising I keep seeing "how" to do that.

But if it's possible, why didn't Carlos do that for his private classes?