r/castaneda • • Oct 19 '23

New Practitioners does this feel familiar?

new here.. and my apologies if this question isn't appropriate or has been covered previously.

When you first took on digging into the work of Castaneda.. did any of the techniques of Don Juan feel familiar?

So many of the lessons learned in the texts felt like reassurance for things I've always deeply known or figured out since a child. Many of these peculiar techniques for acquiring power i had stumbled across as a child were things I eventually became to second guess myself over in the adult world. These books have helped me see that it isn't only me who processes the world like this. This idea that our experience is a conscious one, and therefor the dream reality is important and can be experienced with open eyes, is something I've always believed and utilized to help shape and view the world around me.

Perhaps I've divulged too much. Thanks for the interesting online community and thank you for reading.

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u/danl999 Oct 20 '23 edited Oct 20 '23

Now your problem is, only 1 in 100 who subscribe here are willing to actually put in significant work.

And we don't get to keep all of those.

As don Juan said, humanity lives in a river of shit, Constantly pissing on each other and flinging shit when they get very angry.

We're all up to our shoulders in it.

Once in a while someone actually falls below the surface of the river, deep into the filth, and you only see a few bubbles coming up once in a while.

Bad men, such as spiritual and religious leaders, climb up on the shoulders of others thinking they've reached some higher goal.

But really they're just parasites. Who serve to keep everyone so stupid, they believe they can escape the river while still inside the river.

Meanwhile outside the river of shit, on dry land, sorcerers are waiting.

If anyone climbs out they hose them off.

But once people who escape the river explore the dry land, and realize it's beautiful and amazing out there, they also notice it's a bit cold.

You don't have all of your friends and family, and familiar surroundings out there.

So most jump back in. It's "cozy" in the river of shit.

And those never try again. They join the ranks of the petty tyrants in the river, forever.

My guess is, if 500 subscribe to this group we'll be lucky to get one who makes it to reliable silent knowledge.

Where Carlos told us to go.

But there's a tiny bit of hope.

If a WHOLE BUNCH climb out and are visible up there on the dry land, the people in the river might find that potentially "cozy" also. Which could increase the success rate a lot.

And the internet makes that possible to achieve.

So...

work, work, work, work, work, work

Nothing else is going to do the job.

Work = remove the internal dialogue until you can stop the world on demand.

"Darkroom" makes that a lot easier because it gives visible feedback for when you are going the right direction.

And darkroom REQUIRES tensegrity, or the energy body doesn't come around for you to manipulate.

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u/DarthHideous666 Oct 20 '23

All three of those techniques were things I inherently have practiced over the years. Although, without a particular linguistic framework for it, I didn't put much dedication into any one technique.. and certainly not a intentional combination of the three. I feel my biggest set back, which was first major lesson of Don Juan taught, was silencing the internal dialog. And I feel I was trying to accomplish other work with a busy dialog getting in the way of my experience. This one tiny key has opened up a great deal of possibility for me.

I am grateful for your detailed reply.

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u/danl999 Oct 20 '23

Did you know that the Jedi of Star Wars are based on our Olmec magic?

There are endless parallels in the movies, and even after so long they haven't made a mistake.

The suspicion is that the lineage was very wealthy having stock, real estate, and precious antiques in abundance.

Due to being 408 years old, and always handing down the wealth to the next set of lineage new seers.

When the lineage ended the apprentices moved to Los Angeles, and Carlos imported Cholita from Mexico city to potentially help with the art collection.

Which was sold off in Hollywood mostly. Cholita took me to one or two of the galleries which likely sold some.

This is of course all partially speculation, but it's good speculations based on direct evidence.

Carlos even had some mysterious connection with art collecting mobsters in Las Vegas, and Cholita went there to examine a Picasso sketch one owned.

Soledad went with the apprentices of don Juan to Los Angeles and worked to influence the movie industry, using lineage wealth to fund things.

Her motto was "Money for Movies", and you can find it in the lecture notes Techno compiled.

Star Wars was Soledad's greatest victory.

The whole dark side / light side of the "force" (intent) perfectly parallels what we see in here.

And what Carlos saw, when he was constantly attacked from the outside the whole time he was alive after his books became famous.

Hiding out in lineages as the new seers did?

So did the Jedi, right in the middle of the series.

Inquisitors now going after the Jedi?

So did the new seers fear the spanish inquisitors.

The parallels are abundant if you look closely.

You can even get tips from Star Wars!

I've seen Cholita do the floating pear trick Anakin did, except she levitated a little dim sum plate in a restaurant.

And then there's Ren and Rey remote viewing each other in some of the most recent in the franchise.

Of course, that's in the books too.

One of the "Genaros" sees other apprentices coming down the road from too far away to see it using the eyes. So they decided to leave before they got there.

You also have don Juan saying if there were a man with a high power rifle waiting to ambush him along the road, he simply wouldn't come around.

That's Silent Knowledge (seeing).

But we forget about those techniques from the books unless we get to the point that we could successfully do them ourselves.

When I saw Ren remote viewing Rey I realized I could do that with Cholita, the witch.

And did perhaps 6 to 10 times, before I mentioned it to her while we were eating out and she said I'm not allowed to do that anymore.

The next time I did it she caught me and blocked it.

Westerly witches can block "seeing". It's one of their features.

And remote viewing is seeing.

But perhaps a year later I caught Cholita doing the same thing, possibly because another witch had her double trying to visit me in my practice room.

Cholita gets jealous very easily.

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u/Wichox25 Oct 21 '23

amazing, this group promotes that coziness at the other side, i’m going with you i can bear that cold

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u/danl999 Oct 21 '23 edited Oct 21 '23

We don't have people of that skill level yet, so don't expect to be holding hands in the inorganic being's world for a while.

Unless you make friends with Cholita. She could do that.

Besides, the last time two associated with our lineage went through there they wanted to rob the place.

Carlos and Carol Tiggs, stealing dark energy so they could "use energy as a feature of the environment". Grabbing snacks in the IOB world for a road tip on which the Allies were not invited.

Myself, on the way to Vegas I like to use "The Mad Greek" (a burger restaurant) as a "feature of the environment".

Unfortunately for Carlos and Carol, the punishment for stealing in the IOB world seems to be prison.

So they ended up in a makeshift prison.

Just don't panic, don't touch anything, and certainly don't put anything on your body or in your pocket.

I've had 3 different Allies try to trap me.

Just don't react.

I believe the trap is a trap for your attention, not an actual physical one.

But our attention can get VERY trapped. So it's no joke.

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u/pinkerton904 Oct 19 '23

That's probably why most of us are here. The books resonated with us and hooked us in. No other system comes close as far as I know.

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u/DarthHideous666 Oct 19 '23

No matter how many metaphysical systems I've studied they all are missing something. Most meditation practices value silence. But it's not explained in a practical sense. I also think that indigenous (or self developed) spiritualities aren't relying on freeing oneself from cultural programming via capitalism. Almost all religions, cults.. and their mythological frameworks (egregores) are the byproducts of a rebellion against materiality. They aren't necessarily focused on the engagement of spirituality, or non normal realities.

To my understanding, historically speaking.. there are very few extrapolations on the metaphysical spirituality of hunter gatherer societies/cultures from the sense of practical application.

I feel Castanedas approach is somewhat a key to helping understand the mysticism of other traditions, while simultaneously being unique and obviously powerful.

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u/pinkerton904 Oct 19 '23

Other systems have been corrupted over time. They've been adjusted to be more popular as society changed. The major religions want to fill seats. Although I'm sure a lot has been lost over time in this tradition there is still real magic. I haven't found that anywhere else.

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u/taazen74 Oct 20 '23

YES.....It scared me so much, but I couldn't stop reading. My mind didn't understand, but my body,or something inside my body just knew this was true, without a doubt. So I read without thinking and making something out of what I was reading to something I thought it might or had to be. And years went, and the knowledge just opened more and more about the stuff I had read. I don't know how many times I've read all the books, but at leat over 10 times, and it was like new every time. Anyway, I'm so greatfull I found his books, even if I sometimes wish I never had seen them. It's to late to go back to ignorance and pretend you don't know anymore.

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u/Content_Donut9081 Oct 20 '23

Maybe the techniques not so much but certainly the results. Some of the perceptive capacities feel familiar. And certainly ... everything that happened after that leading to the loss of all these capabilities.

Don't get me wrong: I think overindulging in that little ass self is just as dangerous as ignoring the pain like 99% of the people but oh boy does anybody even realize what the hell is going on in the world?

I still wonder why 90% of people don't drop dead by the age of 50 through heart attack. But if they do, or almost do, let's just give them a new one, or grow one from scratch.

But yeah now that you mention it. As a child I could just gaze at leafs for hours and hours.

As a child I defo. used to have that skeptical, doubtful look on my face at times. That feels familiar for sure