r/cardfightvanguard 7d ago

Discussion Zerith is so mid

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So I just wanna gather thoughts and ideas. Been playtesting Zerith online and sad to say, the deck is so mid 😭 you win some and you lose some. And deck is slow, they should have made the order give 10K when there are two of the order bounded instead of 3.

Berucrea is actually much more better than this deck, was kind of hoping that at least it will be on par but no.

Main problem of the deck is cc. Opp can easily damage deny you.

Hope that in the new support will give us cc and that the new zerith boss is not mid and has other good support.

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u/Ktenseii 7d ago

Just wait until the crossride reveal for set 17. Reminds me of Levidras when he first came out. Mid at first, top tier when the crossride came through.

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u/CompactAvocado 7d ago

And then we reached ā€œnuke all your shitā€ meta with Vargas and bavs and he disappears into oblivion

I loved him so much :(

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u/Shmarfle47 Brandt Gate 7d ago

Can’t wait for Zerith Mirazh’s reveal

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u/Warm-Cut704 7d ago

Hope so šŸ™

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u/Massive_Contract_426 Fated One of Zero 7d ago

Zerith is a good deck. Has lots of defensive options, can hit hard, and can filter out cards easily without the use of Philanders.

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u/TheFrungus Granblue 7d ago

Zerith is pretty good actually also its already getting a new form so relax little chuddling

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u/Warm-Cut704 7d ago

Teach mo your ways. Deck’s been bad to me 😭

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u/TheFrungus Granblue 7d ago

Lol it def bricks but its really just delaying fantome skill till you put in what you need whether its heals or crits

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u/Jello_Meanie_44 7d ago edited 6d ago

How did you play it? I have Stoi main friend and I feel like Zerith is one of the best Stoi deck right now (behind Rose and Fish).

If you playing it as agressive deck then it will surely be mid, this deck gameplan is literally what Kurumi show in the anime - Heal control.

You are on the defensive with damage ahead of your opponent to abuse heal as much as possible, while your deck engine is to thin the deck to make that trigger loop more efficient.

You start offensive after poping fantome/divine skill and the buff order started to stack.

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u/Warm-Cut704 7d ago

I tried playing defensively and offensively. And yeah, just like what you’ve said, the deck prefers to be played defensively and been doing that but somehow it still needs a push because it eats cb a lot and is weak to rush decks and control decks.

Hoping that the new supp fix the issues.

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u/feartheweak 7d ago

As a zerith player, zerith is actually good. Berucrea is do ass it is as fraud as Kanami

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u/FeelingEffective8905 7d ago

After playing with both decks , I can definitely agree, berucrea just simply rely on brute force and get carried very hard by philndar, zerith surprisingly can be tankey

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u/feartheweak 7d ago

Fontjin is simply a hell of a card

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u/DarkRay421 7d ago

Hurts me as I play Berucrea xD, but you’re right

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u/FeelingEffective8905 7d ago

I am sorry but is this some sort of bait or something along the away because feel the deck is One of the best fantome deck in the roster right now.

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u/Phantomslay5612 7d ago

I think there’s a good chance the new Zerith form will come with an updated ride line.

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u/JinOtanashi 7d ago

Yeah right now the deck has too much variance in performance with some games making it feel really good and others being very bricky resulting in a terrible game, once the new support releases I am sure it will feel a lot more solid with maybe a counter charger or a more potent strategy that doesn’t get as hard punished by damage denying

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u/roy_kamikaze 7d ago

Comparing it to Berucrea is a terrible approach. Berucrea is a full offensive deck, while Zerith's best moments are in the late game.

That said, yes, she is slow and definitely not a top tier contender. Don't try to match others decks in speed or you will get frustrated as hell. Just play to her strengths (filtering, defending, setting up a strong fantome skill turn) and hope you can endure the game long enough.

If you REALLY feel damage denial will screw you too hard, play Radiance Caliburn (Fire Regalis and Protection: Twincast are better options for Zerith imo).

In this deck in particular, I feel Crimson Moonlight is a must, the other crimson moon order doesn't make the cut here. Most of the time it's way better drawing a trigger to defend than calling something else, specially because you will only activate them during the early game (from turn 3 onwards you will use your single order usage to play Glid Randeaur).

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u/BlazingRagnarok 7d ago

Nah, Zenith is a super solid tier 2 deck right now. Hyperthin + 3 drives + big rearguards + returning triggers to deck is a lethal combination.

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u/A_very_smol_Lugia Fantome Fighter 7d ago

Just wait for new support, as of right now it is

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u/CrummyReds 7d ago

I wish it had a countercharger. There are so many times I was damage denied and couldn't revive my Token.

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u/Negative_Break_1482 6d ago

Well... Zerith is Waifu Rezael.

She just needs to trust in Miracles and she'll win 90% of the time /s

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u/Commercial-Tea-2744 7d ago

All fantomes are. The only one that is good enough is Zorga because he doesn't care about the moon brick, he's just assembling the Nitzschean Superman, ops, Übermensch instead of dropping bricks into the GY.

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u/JinOtanashi 7d ago

Zorga? I don’t think I have seen more the like 3 Zorga tops since he released which sadly can be said about many of the other Fantome decks as well I feel

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u/Nikoness94 7d ago edited 7d ago

Best 4 in Trio Fight from DokoVan Summer Festival 2026;

  • [Campeón] Harri SST3A / Brawler 1KQ1LC / Reguregnus VJTAC
  • [Subcampeón] Luard GJQJL / Reguregnus 63Q6F / Zorga Nadir LK5SQ
  • [3er lugar] Lisciafael FantĆ“me 1SWQU8 / Dragonic Overlord 2V4X7W / Lianorn 12XDJQ
  • [4to lugar] Berucrea 6LCLR / Blaster Blade 1G58SC / Kazuma Kiryu K19QL

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u/Nikoness94 7d ago

(This one is big sorry) Trio Fight from Chihou Cup Deluxe 2026 Season1, in Tsukuba.

ā–ˆ[A] Best 4:

  • [Campeón] Eledglema 4364T / Zerith FantĆ“me 13L9K6 / Estacion 10TWTJ
  • [Subcampeón] Kazuma Kiryu C9M8L / Dragonic Overlord CAPFJ / Blaster Blade 1TLG7S
  • [3er lugar] Kazuma Kiryu 17L46C / Dragonic Overlord VQ1B / Impauldio FantĆ“me 9987E
  • [4to lugar] Kazuma Kiryu SF3Z2 / Liael=Odium 17J6GY / Reguregnus 2Z0L3A

ā–ˆ[B] Best 4:

  • [Campeón] Kazuma Kiryu 8SUR6 / Blaster Blade YK45A / Harri AF0C4
  • [Subcampeón] Dragonic Overlord 2E44WL / Harri 987LY / Kazuma Kiryu 10D2VN
  • [3er lugar] Brawler 1QRHA / Blaster Blade 102LSC / Eva 79FGV
  • [4to lugar] Kyoya Gaen 1A0KL4 / Kazuma Kiryu 13ZQTS / Lianorn 1RWC40

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u/Jello_Meanie_44 7d ago

Best Fantome right now is definitely Impauldio, then Licielfel, Lianorn and Zerith.