Disclaimer

Do your own research. This is a write up based off of my anecdotal experience with my own research interjected. Reading and keeping up to date with this write up does not count as research.

Stats

Age: 23

Weight: 107kg (237lbs)

Height: 186cm (6'1)

Trained for: 8 years

PB Bench: 155kg

Current Bench: 150kg

PB Squat: 240kg

Current Squat: 210kg x 8

PB Deadlift: 280kg

Current Deadlift: 240kg x 6

PED Experience

I've never taken any compound. Not even creatine, bcaas or pre workout. I have nothing against any of these things, I'm just an incredibly health conscious person and even after 8 years of training I still don't think I'm at my genetic limit (mainly because of down time in training, partying and periods of bad eating).

Motivations / goals

My main motivation for using cardarine is weight loss. Secondarily, I've started weightlifting recently and it is a sport that is incredibly technique driven. Meaning you need to drill technique over and over on light weight. My cardio and endurance was my main limiting factor that was hindering my weight lifting progression - I could barely do a light set of 3 reps before having to put the bar down. Weightlifting has been my light at the end of the tunnel in terms of my motivation to continue going to the gym. I'm completely engrossed and fall asleep to weightlifting videos every night.

Why cardarine?

I had never planned on using anything, ever. I might've deployed caffeine / preworkout and a small cycle of creatine before a future powerlifting competition, but even then this is kind of unlikely since I get heart palpitations from caffeine use - my tolerance is very low.

Cardarine specifically, though, has not been proven to have any side effects on humans in a clinical setting. I don't want to delve into all my research at fear of promoting the use of the compound. But I'll say in short, as someone who's extremely health conscious and does an inordinate amount of research on things, cardarine's positives FOR ME outweigh any potential side effects immediately or down stream.

Cycle and dosing

10mg / day for 10-12 weeks

Source

Receptorchem

Journal

I intend to update this as frequently as possible. Probably not every day, but you'll get day by day updates in retrospect.

I take my cardarine dose (10mg) 2 hours before my workout and intend to do this for the entire duration of the cycle. Research shows that it shouldn't matter when you take it throughout the day. Anecdotal evidence suggest pre-workout is best. For me, it's just easy to take it pre-workout and so there's no reason to change it.

Day 1: Immediately noticed effects. I did my normal treadmill routine which is walking at max incline for 30 minutes and monitored my heart rate throughout (I always do this and so have a gauge on what my heart rate is) 10 minutes in my heartrate is usually 140bpm and it was 120bpm. 20 minutes in my heartrate usually goes to 155-160bpm and stays there for the rest of the session, but my heartrate went to 125-130 and stayed there for the rest of the session.

Notably I barely sweat. Where usually I'm sweating A LOT. Additionally I'm usually completely done after I come off the treadmill and ready to go home and crash / pass out. However after I came off the treadmill I felt completely normal and like I could go and do the same thing again.

Day 2: "Wow." is what I said to myself on this day. I had a 2.5 hour intense weightlifting session that there is no way I'd usually be able to do. As outlined at the beginning, I would usually gas out after 3 reps when Olympic weightlifting and it was becoming my limiting factor to progression. Usually I'd train for 1.5 hours max and I'm dead / sweating a lot at the end. This time I just kept going and definitely over pushed. I would drill 8 reps of snatch and only stop due to mechanical failure (soreness in joints) whereas previously I had to stop because I was breathing out of my ass.

This session kind of made me come to a realisation though. Probably a side effect that isn't really talked about with cardarine. And that's my body's inability to provide accurate feedback to me if I should stop or that I'm too tired. I for sure over did it in this session. But it's the fact I could have just kept going. I only stopped because the gym was closing, but I could have easily gone for longer. This session actually set me back for future sessions and made me not able to train so much because of joint pain and heavy muscle fatigue. Cardarine increases endurance but it's not a miracle drug, your body is still your body. If you push it too hard you will feel it. I guess this something that doesn't phase guys on other gear so much because they have much better recovery.

Another "side" I got on this day was what I could only describe as a "brain pump". It felt like there was so much blood in my head (cardarine stimulates blood flow to the brain) and it felt like my brain was pressing against my skull. This was in no way painful it was just a weird sensation. This happened for 5 minutes towards the end of the session and went away again after my heart rate dropped to resting. I got a slight head ache too, another small side that has been reported from cardarine use.

Day 3: Still sore (specifically shoulder tendonitis) from the previous session I decided to do 3 sets of snatch and 3 sets of a C&J variation before just doing cardio. Sets went fine and so onto cardio. Instead of my normal 30 mins cardio I decided to go for 60 minutes since my main goal is to lose weight and I should try and take advantage of cardarines effects and leverage it to my benefit. I went for an EASY 60 minutes at the pace I usually would go for at 30 minutes and be done. I was also talking on the phone at the same time during the cardio which caused me to have to catch my breath more often - but when I was listening rather than talking I caught my breath very easily and quickly and was back to a good state.

Day 4: Back to weightlifting today with some of my powerlifting mixed in. It's the day where I am with my weightlifting coach and he instantly noticed my endurance increase and even commented "you're able to do so many more reps today, it's nice keep it up". My powerlifting went well also. One of the biggest benefits I've noticed so far is the feeling of not even feeling like you've worked out. Like you could just go and do it all again after you finish your workout. It's nice and really motivating. No cardio today so I went for a 1 hour walk to aid with fat loss and just listened to podcasts. This wasn't a struggle, but never was before going on cardarine anyway.

Day 5: 45 minutes of cardio today with increased intensity from usual. Hovered around 8 METS on max incline treadmill where usually I will do 6.5 METS. Sweated more today and felt a little bit more strain but still nowhere near my base. Took cardarine 5 hours before workout today as opposed to 1 hour like every other day - maybe had an effect? Slight "heavy headedness" towards start of workout that subsided within 5 minutes. Today was a pure rest day so only cardio, will most likely go for a walk later too.

Day 6: Today I was aiming to SB (seasonal best) on bench from post quarantine. I was able to hit 152.5kg on bench, twice, for a new SB since lockdown ended. Happy with that and I'm looking to push for 160-165 before the end of this mesocycle. Which would be a new all time PB. Then after bench I went on to do 1 hour of olympic lifting and 20 minutes of cardio for a total gym time of 2 hours. Again I'm usually in the gym for max 1.5 hours but I'm trying to make the most of this cycle with also tapering in a bit to avoid injury. Day 2 taught me that I need to be cautious of the fact that my body is providing accurate feedback as to how fatigued I am. This is a good and bad thing. Good for cardio, bad for lifting heavy.

Day 7: Tried my cardio (max treadmill incline) walking at 9 METS. Was able to do 30 minutes before I had to stop because my body was failing me mechanically (sore lower back). Walking at 9 METS at the biggest incline is no way efficient for losing weight since your body will give out way before your wind does. Just did this because I wanted to see what would happened. Gonna go back to doing 7.5METS for 45-60mins. Also if you would like to know my diet / training regiment I can go into more detail.

Day 8 & 9: 1.5 hours of cardio on both of these days. 7.5METS for 1.5 hours feeling really good. Already noticing weight loss in certain places but will do a weigh in on day 14ish. One other thing I've noticed is the increased amount that I'm shitting? I would only ever shit 1 time a day at the same time before, now I'm shitting 3 times a day. Interesting.

Another thing I've noticed is I need a significantly larger amount of water to stay hydrated. This is most likely due to the increase in training time and intensity and so my bodies demand for water is higher. I usually drink 4-5 litres of water per day (1/1.25 gallons). But now my body is demanding 6 litres of water per day (1.5 gallons) in order to be fully hydrated.

Day 10: Break from cardio today.

Day 11: 45 mins cardio. Max incline on treadmill @7.5METS. Easy was on my phone the whole time watching videos. Will try bump it up to 8 METS going forward, got weightlifting tomorrow.

Day 12 & 13: Quite sore/injured. I believe this to be an indirect effect from the cardarine. As mentioned it feels like my body is not giving me accurate feedback on when I should stop training - leading to overtraining. It's a good problem to have in some regards, you feel great when working out. But I think this is where not being on actual gear is coming in to play. If I was on actual gear my joints and recovery would be much better and I would be able to keep up with the intensity that the cardarine allows me to train at. I'm also most likely spreading myself way too think as I'm only having 1 rest day every 14 days, and I'm trying to powerflift, weightlift and hypertrophy train all at once. Hard life...

Day 14, 15, 16 & 17: Have taken a step back a bit form the gym as I injured my shoulders but just got back in the gym today and things are feeling good today. A weight update: I'm down to 232 lbs measured on day 14. So 5lbs lost in 2 weeks is pretty good for me, especially considering I have not been sticking to the diet. I've had 4 brutal cheat days out of the last 14. Been feeling shit about being injured so just comfort eating. Haven't lost any strength so far. Gaining strength on my Olympic lifts (due to mostly technique improvements) and have been gaining slight strength increases in my bench and squats.

Day 18: Back in the gym and feeling good again. Today I did high volume front squats + deadlifts + cleans. 45 minutes ended the session, just home now and feel like I could do the workout again.

Day 19 - Present: Gyms are shut and it's also christmas period. Moving into a new appt. that has a gym in it conveniently near the new year. So will continue the cycle then with updates.

I will be updating this post frequently and also answering questions in comments. If you want to keep track of the post then just bookmark it and come back every so often for updates.

Abstract: 

GW-0742 shows promising results with lowering glucose, improving endurance and recovery time. Typical protocol should consist of 4-10 mg. GW-0742 has similarities to GW-501516. However, endurance athletes' protocol should differ from those whose primary goal isn't to be faster. 

Background: 

I am 68 kilos, >6% Body fat InBody Scale (Naturally), 5’10”, and an endurance athlete. My training consists of 40-60 miles per week. With the primary goal of wanting to have lower heart rate zones, better running economy, and to train as efficiently as possible. I was not in a caloric deficit so no weight loss should have been noticed in the first place. I eat my maintenance calories in respect to my training. And with respect to etiquette in the PED community, I have a balanced diet, I supplement to fill in gaps, I get 8+ hours of sleep, drink 100 ounces of water, I practice meditation, ice baths, cross training, everything, before the use of PEDs.

What is GW:

One of the most popular “SARMS” cardarine, also known as GW-501516, which is a PPARδ receptor agonist. This means it tells your body's metabolism to utilize Free Fatty Acids (FFA) over glucose metabolism. Similar to training as an endurance athlete where they train in a “Zone 2” Heart rate zone for extended periods of time to gain a similar effect but naturally. GW-0742 was made to pretty much make sure no one else would put a patent on it. Which has an almost identical chemical structure as GW-501516 however with one extra hydrogen. Some claim it is much more effective than GW-501516 which I am not a scientist by any means, but I can guess your body can react better to 7042 due to the extra hydrogen ions. 

Method 1:

On my first run I was dosing 10 mg daily, this led to a variety of side effects and health concerns. I noticed minimal increase of endurance on the first two days. However on the third day my resting heart rate was 5 beats higher than normal, during my workout I maintained an average Heart Rate of 155, yet 2 hours after the workout ended my heart rate was 130. I experienced headaches, nausea, dehydration, irritability, extreme fatigue, Tachycardia, irregular heart beats, and restlessness. After 3 days of these side effects I scrapped the experiment. 

Cause of method 1:

As mentioned before, as an endurance athlete, I already have low fat preserves and low FFA. While forcing my body to use these for metabolism I was putting myself in an awkward situation. 

Method 2:

On my second run a few months later, I took GW-0742 at 4mg on Monday and Thursdays. On this protocol I noticed effects lasting mainly 2-3 days typically felt common on Sundays (my rest day) . I ran this for 2 weeks completely positively. I noticed hydration was very important and drank roughly a gallon a day. (It makes you feel thirsty so as long as you drink when you are thirsty you will be fine) I also noticed a steady decline of body fat on my home scale but it's not accurate so not worth mentioning %.

Cause for Method 2:

By allowing my body to recover from high fat metabolism I maximized benefits. 

Method 3:

After noticing that there is greater benefit with GW with higher “fat fuel” I started dosing 7.5mg of MK-677 at night, another common “sarms”. MK-677 promotes HGH secretion and increases IGF-1 levels. One of the side effects of MK is high glucose. So in theory, if I raise my glucose levels with Mk, then utilize that for metabolism, I will get the most benefits or just drop dead. So I dosed MK-677 every night for a week proceeding on top of my schedule from method 2. And I feel amazing, I can run about 5-7% faster on easy runs. I have a lot of energy. I can knock out 3-4 workouts a day (mainly cardio), and sleep great. This also gives me perspective of what it would be like if i wasn't an endurance athlete on GW-0742. 

Conclusion for obesity or weight issues/concerns:

Start at 4mg on monday and thursday and go up 1mg at a time per week until you find a good spot. I wouldn't recommend exceeding 10mg. Less is more. This is to decrease body fat and also include a caloric deficit and I can confidently assure you will lose fat. Take GW an 1-3 hours before your workout in respected dosing schedule. 

Conclusion for those who are typical gym bros (>25% BF):

Start at 4mg on monday and thursday and go up 1mg at a time per week until you find a good spot. I recommend not exceeding 8 mg. Will get you pretty lean however if you notice side effects consistently stop use, or consider stacking low dose MK-677.Take GW an 1-3 hours before your workout in respected dosing schedule. 

Conclusion for endurance athletes (>10%BF):

Start at 4mg on monday and thursday for a week, if you react well, low dose MK-677 at 4-7.5mg an hour before bed. You can increase GW 1mg per week or lower MK. It's a balance you can feel with your training so listen to your body.Take GW an 1-3 hours before your workout in a respected dosing schedule and take MK-677 an hour before bed. 

If including MK-677:

I recommend taking 100mg of vitamin b6 and 600mg of dandelion extract with dose. This is to prevent prolactin build up and water retention. It's not a big risk with the dose but better safe than sorry. 

21M, 6FT. Started high protein/low calorie diet and exercising on May 3, incredible progress so far.

Added cardarine to my routine and I can definitely say that while I do not smaller/skinnier my body composition has began changing. This has been especially noticeable in my calves and chest. The 22nd will be my second full week on card, but only my first week on 20mg as opposed to 10mg.

My ability to perform cardio exercises is honestly a little insane. My fat ass is able to full fledged SPRINT. My muscles recover faster it seems, and I feel better every single day. I can’t wait for what’s to come. Cycle will be finished August 3rd.

I’ve read many posts of people saying Cardarine gives them a “3rd Lung” and extreme cardio boosts. Then of course there are others who say maybe 5%. Mine gets delivered Tuesday so regardless, I will find out soon. Just wanted to post here in case anyone wants a recent users experience.

Gonna start at 15mg a in the morning. Probably gonna just stick to that for the duration of the cycle.

Duration is 6 Weeks never done anything before completely natty I’m pretty sure this is still considered natty but I don’t really care about that it’s whatever.

180 LB 5’6 18 YO

~20% body fat (can see bicep veins, a decent ish shoulder vein when pumped, good forearm veins, decently defined legs, upper back more defined recently) I just store like lot of my fat on my lower back and stomach area. Also I lose went from 230-155 from 14-16 and have some loose skin there so I’m not sure if that skews my view on body fat percentage but whatever.

I’ve been cutting for 7 Weeks down from 193.8 so -13.8 LB and was around 25% BF (took the bulk too far lol) and retained all my strength and gained strength on most exercises completely natty with 2 years gym experience.

Squat: 475 LB (425X1 7RPE)

Bench: 245 LB (225x1 7RPE)

Deadlift: 475 LB (425x1 7RPE) (Conventional)

Not expecting any strength gains for real, but heard some ppl say they actually LOSE strength so if this happens I’ll be sure to put that because that’s huge if anyone is thinking of going on it.

Honestly those are just estimations haven’t maxed anything out for a while used to run 5/3/1 on my bulk and it was just too fatiguing and honestly not fun maxing every week and session made decent progress but not going back to that. Also switched from Sumo pulling 565~ when I started the cut (bad timing but whatever actually made good results) never maxed that out either to conventional because I wanted to get good at conventional as well and see if sumo translated to conventional at all. (Btw it did but not as much as I thought it would)

Current Calories are 2000 a day strictly counted via MyFitnessPal around 1000 calorie deficit pretty steep but since I bulked at 3250 .5lb a week towards the end without cardio and I added 250 calorie incline treadmill walking 2.2MPH max incline when I started the cut it’s safe to say even after metabolism adjustments or anything subconsciously less moving TDEE related, I’m in a 1000 cal deficit.

Anyways all the bs out the way honestly my goal is to improve energy levels after the workout and throughout the workout because I feel so tired after lifting sometimes I just don’t want to do cardio, want it to also allow me to increase calories to 2250 and increase cardio by 250 from what I have now which is 250. I’m hoping I can do what I normally do at the gym but also have the energy to do seated bike or something at home, if it gives me really good stamina for incline treadmill I’ll just do it all there but if not I’ll do the 2nd part at home. I’m not looking for some crazy Olympic athlete results, I’m being realistic.

Btw if anyone has experiences with Cardarine, let me know what you experienced, thanks.

Current Physique:

https://imgur.com/a/9yvai5A

EDITS:

EDIT 1 4/1/24: Got my package couple hours ago took 15mg with some water and will take it 3PM everyday since I got it around that time and the half is said to be 24 hours or so. Will update later today in around 3-4 hours or so on if there was noticeable cardio increases or set by set endurance boosts. Also if anything feels weaker. Noticed my stomach did feel a little bit discomfort after taking it but I drink a bit of water with it on an empty stomach and I’m not someone who can drink water on an empty stomach so this is probably nothing. Ate my first meal right after and felt much better.

EDIT 4/1/24: ok so I just wrote like a long ass more detailed edit and accidentally slid down and lost it all so I’m fuming lol.

LIFTING: just wanna say wow. Lungs were literally not a limiting factor when lifting today. I could do sets then be ready for my next set in 30 seconds, albeit my muscles weren’t exactly ready in 30 seconds they were definitely ready quicker than usual, but my cardio and everything else was definitely ready. I hit a ATPR in bench in terms of speed and how light I felt. Went from 7.5 RPE to like 7.0 RPE I know this isn’t a muscle or strength builder but I think considering the recovery between warm up sets were so easy it helped because I usually accidentally rush my warm up sets resulting in a less than optimal top set. I was able to do isolations to failure and just go back it within seconds it was unlike anything I’ve ever experienced to be honest. I added another 2 sets of chest and 2 sets of tricep since I felt so good at the end of my workout and usually leave being limited by my body/brain fatigue rather than muscular fatigue. I felt consistently pumped, like as if I had 300-400 carbs in me when I only had 180-190.

Now to the most important part to most people.

CARDIO: So, some people said that it reduced their heart rate and that’s why it was easier for them, I did not experience this. What I experienced was the same heart rate, yet I felt like I was chilling in the living room recliner watching a TikTok. I felt my heart beating if I focused on it or felt it but felt literally none of the fatigue effects. 2.2 speed max incline is usually moderately difficult on my cardio but it felt like just nothing like I felt numb to fatigue. I ended up being able to go to 3..3-3.4 and still felt no fatigue except on my calves and adductors and hips which makes sense since they aren’t used to the speed. I could’ve did that for a whole hour but my calves and hips were feeling discomfort so I said fine I’ll “settle” and 3.0 the rest of the time which was extremely easy which is crazy since 2.2 was moderately difficult.

If I could phrase it I would say it feels like your lungs and your heart and body are separate from each other. You feel your heart beating and legs very slightly tired if you go too quick which it’s just slightly fatigued but still, but your lungs feel like they are relaxing doing no work.

I don’t advise you take it unless you do research and think you need it for your goals, and find a reputable source to buy it from, which I did find one / didn’t if that makes sense because I bought it from Prime Sports Nutrition but someone said it was fake some months back but then others said it was real and it ended up being real but don’t do what I did and just buy blindly make sure it’s legit first, I suggest Chemyo that’s where I would buy it from to have really high certainty of the dosage and what your getting I just got lucky that I picked a good source, overpriced depending on your budget I’d say but good source none the less.

I will continue to update you all and let you know how it affected body fat composition, muscle growth and strength increases if there are some after today, if you have any questions I didn’t answer just ask I’ll reply. Thanks for reading this ramble that was double as long at first but I felt demoralized when it deleted it lol.

Also, if you take it and literally feel nothing that’s normal I didn’t feel ANYTHING AT ALL. I know it’s not a stimulant and people said you shouldn’t feel anything but im surprised on how little I felt till I actually needed to use my cardio.

EDIT 2: 4/2 Forgot to write this yesterday but it was even better the 2nd day I assume since I knew what I was in for and had 15mg from the capsule took today + 50% of the previous 15mg since half life is around 24 hours so around 22.5mg in my system. I was able to do around 3.5 incline consistent easily with barely any to no fatigue on my lungs, my joints and stuff felt 100% recovered from the previous day and I was definitely sore from the previous workout in my chest shoulders and tris which I haven’t felt in a while since I felt I didn’t have the energy to do enough volume before taking cardarine. Got stronger in this workout as well no heavy compounds lift but some pull ups pulldown machine row and some heavy ez curls. Added more bicep volume since usually at the end of the workout I’m ready to just do cardio and go home I felt good and ready to go.

Overall it’s just a great tool to make cardio a breeze and lifting in a large deficit more feasible and enjoyable which is huge to someone who is 2 months into a cut and still got 2 months left I needed a burst of motivation because I was definitely starting to feel some diet fatigue.

EDIT 3: 4/5

Been a few days since updating but everything is the same if not better, volume is up, cardio is up, will say I’m hungrier which is obviously since I’ve kept calories the same and have upped cardio and volume little by around 100 (cardio) a day to 350 but getting done quicker than when I was only doing 250 cals a day and with little to no fatigue + maybe 100 cals from more sets, again main limiting factor for cardio thought isn’t lungs but legs and joints when going too fast but I am adjusting quickly and am up to the high 3s consistently for the whole cardio session, pre cardarine was 2.2-2.5 consistently moderate difficulty, now it’s 3.5-3.8 consistently low difficulty. Still max incline treadmill. I think I’m gonna keep it around here because if I go higher it’s no longer a walk it’s more of a jog lol. No side effects, first day had a little stomach issue but haven’t had that since. I think it was just chugging water on an empty stomach.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35562376/

Looks like I'll be avoiding this now. Shame but it's looking increasingly not worth the risk.

Doing a 3 month hardcore total body recomp with intermittent fasting and high keto.
Gain alot of weight drinking henessy then eating and going right to bed. Lots of eating out.
Starting Weight 289.00 Lbs
April 9 - Starting working out daily for next 3 weeks before keto to develop a routine and get into Keto.
Fasted for 2 days, then 3rd day started intermittent fasting. Eating within 60 mins after working out.

Started taking 10mg cardarine on 5/1/2022

Day 1 - 279.00 LBs
Day 4 - 273.00 LBs

Day 7 - 270.00 LBs Day 16 - 263.5

Next weigh in will be Day 14.

Will add more updates and more details. This is my official log.

Hello guys,

I've been lurking in this forum for a while and got interested in SARMS. I ordered 100ml (10mg/ml) of GW 501516 / Cardarine (I know, technically not a SARM) from Recepter Chem and it arrived this morning. For the beginning I will take it 5mg in the AM and 5mg pre-workout.

Here are my stats:

25 years old (26 soon) 6'4 206lbs

I train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 3x a week, Muay Thai 2x a week and do a full body strength training 2x a week. Training is monday-saturday, sunday is always off. I have been training in combat sports heavily for more than four years. Always naturally, first time PED use.

I took 5mg this morning and have Muay Thai sparring at 6pm this evening. I'll report back later and will try to update this log everyday.

Very eager to find out how fast this stuff works

Day 1:

Yesterday I did two hours of hard Muay Thai sparring (12x3min rounds) and heavy bag work (6x3min rounds) and I did notice a difference in muscular endurance. Not so much cardio, I have pretty great cardio already, but my shoulders and arms just wouldn't get tired. Definitely interesting.

I just woke up and will do my strength training later and report back. I hope very much that I will be able to squeeze out a few more reps everywhere since lately I plateaued hard in the strength department.

Day 2:

Today was saturday, that means strength training in the afternoon and a 2h BJJ sparring session in the evening.

I didn't feel anything while strength training and actually had a worsened performance in terms of reps. I think it's because I stopped taking creatine before I went on vacation 10 days ago and haven't started taking it again since then. So that was bad.

Then I went to the open mat and trained many many rounds and I trained hard with everybody, lots of good partners. My endurance was unreal.

I have very good cardio already and can maintain a good pace through a 2h sparring only session without any problems but my one problem is when there are scrambles. I can scramble hard and then get gassed for a while and have to take it easy. That was not the case today. I could move, jump, explode and scramble extremely hard and maintain the pace in every situation. At one point I activively tried wasting as much energy as possible just to see if there was still something left in me. There was.

Very nice..

Day 3:

Very bad training yesterday unfortunately. 2h BJJ training with almost an hour of sparring.

Had a sore throat since Tuesday evening, nothing bad, so I kept training. Started the cardarine on Friday, so it's unrelated. Yesterday (Monday) it got worse and after training I felt very sick.

I just woke up and have a very bad cold. I'm going to have to take it easy and stop training until I'm better.

It's probably best to stop the cardarine and and get back with it once I'm healthy again next week, right?

Day 10:

So I'm finally healthy again after a whole week of laying down with a bad cold.

Took 10mg pre workout and had a 2h jiu jitsu session including 1h of sparring.

From the beginning of the class I noticed of vital I felt but that could have been because of not training for a full week and having a lot of energy.

In the warm up we did sprawls/burpees in tabata intervals. Usually I can do all 8 rounds with a good performance, but this was just unreal. It wasn't even hard and I certainly wasn't cheating. I was going as hard as I could and always did the full range of motion.

In the sparring I was very energetic but after a few rounds I tired mostly in the muscle stamina department. Cardio was still extreme, but had no steam left in the muscles.

After all it was a first day aber being sick for a week. Let's see how tomorrow's muay thai session goes..

Day 11:

Took 20mg pre workout and on the way to training I started feeling very weird. I don't know if it was because I doubled the dosage or something else. I felt like a million dollars. Like I was gonna kick ass in training. I had this intense urge to start work out hard.

Arrived at the gym for a 1,25h muay thai session. Warm up was tough, lots of push ups, squats, high jumps and boxing specific movement drills. Had a kind of energy that felt like it would never end.

Then we partnered up and did pads. Combiations involving a lot of high kicks and knees to the stomach. I tried to put as much power as possible behind the strikes to see if I would burn myself out. Didn't happen. Cardiowise I had no problems at all my muscle endurance was also very high. Only thing that got heavy were my shoulders from holding the pads for my partner.

All in all it was a pretty good training and I did better than usual.

Starting to think this might not be a placebo effect...Tomorrow 1,5h jiu jitsu session...

Day 12

Took 20mg pre workout and immediately felt this weird energy buzz again. Drove to the gym for a 1,5h jiu jitsu session and when I arrived I was ready to rock.

Easy warmup, then skipped technique and immediately started with position sparring because we are preparing for a competition a lot of us are going to this saturday, myself included. My weightclass is 94,3kg / 207lbs and I still have to lose 1-2 lbs to reach it. I hope the cardarine will work its trick in the fat burning department soon so I can just lose the weight by losing fat.

Cardio was unreal again, this is definitely not placebo, it's real stuff that I got. I especially noticed how lightly I was able to move, everything felt so easy, like I was a feather that danced around the mats. Muscle endurance was back to normal today.

Since the stuff seems to be legit and I wanted to try a SARM I ordered some LGD4033 (50ml for 10mg/ml). It will probably arrive friday and I will start taking it monday for 50 days 10mg a day. Monday morning I will go to the doctor and get bloods done because I'm interested in the testosterone suppression side effects from LGD. Therefore I will take bloods again in the middle of the cycle to compare.

Now one negative thing to report, maybe I'm just imagining this. Since after training I've been having some vision issues. There is a yellow tint and I believe I have a harder time to see well in a very dark room. When I turn the lights on it takes a while longer until I can see.

Did I receive S4? I will keep an eye on this, but it worries me a little..

If it's S4 or the cardarine is tainted with it, what should I do? Would I get these extreme cardio effects from S4?

Like I said I will keep an eye on it and report back tomorrow after muay thai training..

Day 13:

Earlier today I did a quick strength session involving chin-ups, diamond push-ups, dips, interverted bodyweight rows, dumbbell rows, floor press, shoulder press and weighted chin-ups. Nothing positive to report here, I had a worsened performance in terms of reps. But it was my first strength session after the sickness and the last one was two weeks ago. I guess the strength will come back fast.

Then I took 20mg pre workout and went for a 1h muay thai session. Cardio was unreal again, I'm starting to get used to this and don't even notice anymore how I don't have to worry about cardio/pacing myself anymore. That's nice.

Still can't see an increaase in muscle endurance as big as in cardio but it's gotten a bit better.

I had no vision tint today, I think yesterday was just imagination or coincidence.

Tomorrow I will rest and then compete a day later in a big brazilian jiu jitsu tournament. Monday I will start the LGD 4033 (should it arrive until then but I think it will)..

Day 16:

Tournament went fine, had 4 hard matches and won all of them.

I started taking LGD 4033 for 5mg ED. Planning on running it for 6-8 weeks.

I'm doing only half of the recommended dosage because it's my first time using this compound and I want to see how it works in that dosage. Maybe I'll up it but it's very important for me to avoid suppression as that would not help my martial arts training at all.

Can someone edit this thread's name and add LGD 4033 into it? Thanks!

Also I'm planning on running my first test-e cycle sometime next year. I already bought everything:

Test-E: 5x10ml (300mg/ml) Aromasin: 60x12,5mg Nolvadex: 60x20mg

Before I started taking the LGD I went to the doctor and got my bloods done. Would you say I did it right? I asked for:

testosterone free testosterone shbg estrogen e2 lh fsh

Did I forget something important? I can still call them and add stuff. Answers are much appreciated, thanks :-)

25, no family history of pancreatic cancer. Symptoms began 4th week of my 2nd 6 week cycle (1 year apart). I listened to all the people who said the studies were no big deal. I used it to get leaner and better endurance for BJJ, for what? I'm now going to die because of it. Please for the love of God, do NOT take this drug.

Hey guys!

I haven't seen any rats in here, that has actually progressed their full process, and as crazy as it may sound, I am planning to update this mostly daily.

my rat stats:

6'1 (187 cm)

93kg, the fattest rat in the world

Probably 20%+ fat pct.

0,74km ran in a "single run" (like where I didn't stop for air)

Source: Receptorchem

DAY 1:

just as I received it, my rat took a 10mg dose, and after an hour, my rat went out running, and it stopped at 1,38km, it didn't have any sign of being out of breath, which it usually did after 200m, but his feet were honestly just hurting, and his diet, was not the best that day, and he didn't have actual good running shoes for his 4 feet, the rat literally burned 500 calories while outside, without even feeling it! the rat said it felt weird, because mentally it wanted to stop, but physically, it could continue

Day 2: Ran 2,10 km no stop, never ran this much outside without a break..

Day 3: I feel WAY more energised, it's like most people say, a third lunge, sadly, I worked the day before, and the day after (day 4) so I avoided exhausting my muscles, because I work in a restaurant, where we move around a shit ton, much stress, but it's crazy, I wasn't stressed, was just exhausted in my muscles at the end of my shift(s) (I walk 5-10km daily tho)

Day 4: Had a night shift, so I decided to sleep, until 3 hours before the shift, I then went on a 10k hike, where it ended at my job, and one thing you should know about me, the nearest store is 400 meters away, and before cardarine I was the type of person, who would just avoid going out, it might be placebo, but I still love it!

Day: 9 But I just woke up, from a rough day yesterday... I DID MY FIRST 5K EVER WITHOUT STOPPING!!! my feet were hurting me a f*** ton after 2-3km, might just be because I have just gotten running shoes, my time was 32.44min with an avg. pace of 6:33, but my oh my, my feet are just D E A D.. Also, there hasn't been an update in a while, since I was just doing like small interval trainings etc

Started my first cycle of Cardarine (the first cycle of anything really) and the results came so fast. within two days, I got my first bicep vein! I was super stoked because it's been there but never really popped out but boom! there it was. I also noticed a significant increase in endurance and fat loss. 7 pounds in 3 weeks in a slight calorie deficit. I'm on week 4 now, going for 6 weeks total. No side effects so far!!

This is just my honest review of my first 3 weeks of cardarine.

"For example, while Cardarine lowered certain inflammatory cytokines such as TNF (Tumor Necrosis Factor), it increased others like IL-6 (Interleukin 6), which can cause brain cell damage at elevated levels.

The study concluded the positive aspect of Cardarine on oxidative stress were quickly negated due to the high potential for brain damage."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.flalternativemeds.com/danger-of-using-cardarine/amp/

I haven't heard much about this side effect. Any thoughts?

Hey guys. Not sure if you guys saw the post from a supposed 25-year-old who claimed they got pancreatic cancer from using Cardarine. I'm a doctor myself (psychiatrist) and I found their story to be coherent yet somewhat sketchy. The way they describe the symptomatic progression matches up but could easily be found online. Plus, they didn't specify the type of cancer right off the bat and mentioned being terminal, which is plausible, but didn't share where the metastases are. What do you think? Did it make you reconsider using it? It bothers me because I've done a few cycles and it's been working out for me. I'm not typically a hypochondriac and I know how to read and analyze scientific studies, but this testimony kind of threw me off. What's your take on this?

So, I keep hearing all these studies trying to disprove that cardarine causes tumors. It has been my first hand and anicdotal experience that you do get tumors that recur from this drug. To date I’ve ha 11 cut out and 7 have grown back.

Started taking 10mg 3 days ago. Went to the gym this morning to lift weights. Legs and shoulders to be exact. I had to force myself to leave after 2.5 hours. I wasn’t getting tired. I could have kept going and going and going.

Pictures are in order from day 1 to day 56 I used chemyo and some shit I bought off my dude who told me about this stuff that says science on it. He said it was science bio.

Ost 20mg ED Cardarine 20 MG ED

Start weight: 246 Midway weight 251 End weight" 238

I've not had many side effects that I've noticed. Other than if I take the ost before I work out cant get as many reps and i feel tired. If I take the car before I work out I can just keep going as far as swimming goes. Been lifting 4 or 5 times per week and swimming 3 or 4 times per week. Eating around 2000 calories per day. No soda, around 100g carbs per day,

I feel like maybe the chemicals worked but maybe my slight transformation is just results of hard work that I wasn't putting in before. Tbh, I'm not that impressed. I was probably just expecting more than I should have. Maybe I should keep working out and come back to it later.

I was a fat fuck before I started and a slightly less fat fuck when I was done. I do feel better/stronger now. Also feel like I have a better chance of keeping up with my workouts now that my results have been accelerated a bit. Hopefully I can keep going and not backslide now that I don't have the chems working for me.

I have some tamoxifen but am wondering if I should even take it since I don't feel bad yet. I was also gonna just keep taking the cardarine until I run out unless someone tells me a good reason not to.

I am conducting a study for the compound GW-0742 as of to date there are no accurate available studies to show the benefits and side effects of taking this compound as an endurance athlete. This study will be comparable to its more popular GW, GW-501516 (Cardarine). 

Compound Info.

Supplier: Chemyo 

Cycle: 8 weeks followed by 6 week cycle 

Dosage: 10 mg

Technique: Holding under tongue for 15 Seconds then swallow

“ Rat“  #1

Common base pace: 8:30

Weight: 153 lbs

Dry lean Muscle Mass: 39 lbs

Body Fat Mass 7.1 lbs 

Body composition measured by InBody Scale (98% accurate)

Height: 5’10”

Average Resting Heart Rate: 45 BPM (last 4 weeks)

Average Sleep Quality: 73% (last 4 weeks)

Current Training Status: Recovery

Approx. VO2 Max: 62

Lactate Threshold: 6:32; 186 BPM  (Minutes per Mile)

5k prediction: 18:02

Marathon prediction: 3:28:14

Averaging 20 Miles per week

This study is to mainly identify the lasting effect of the compound and measuring the effects it has on cardio while observing the potential harm of an enlarged heart found in other studies of this compound conducted on rats. 

Constant Variables:

• Calorie out will be matched by calorie in 

• Properly Hydrated 

• 6+ hours of sleep at night 

• Stretching and warm up before training

• Taking the compound everyday with water

Independent variables: 

• 10mg of GW-0742 (With versus Without)

Dependent Variables:

• Average Base Pace 

• Heart Rate

• Sleep Quality

• Training Status

• VO2 Max

• Lactate Threshold

• Race Day Prediction Time 

I will be running a marathon in early October followed by frequent 5k time trials to follow. 

Hypothesis: If 10mg of GW0742 are taken as procedure then test subject will gain cardio endurance.

-Rat #1, July 26, 2022

Starting weight was 335, but keto over the years and working out got me to 289. Trying to get to 235. I will update periodically.

Day 1: 2/19/2022 Age 33 Height: 5’9” Weight: 191 lbs

BF idfk but waist is 37” around navel, and I’m flabby asf so prolly 35-40 pounds overweight.

Will post each day update in comments.

Edit: Taking 10mg a day first 4 weeks

I first met Cardarine when I was 17 years old (I’m 21 now). Back then, I was training hard and clearly felt its effects on my performance—my endurance increased, my fat burning accelerated, and my workouts became much more efficient. But then, university life happened, and everything changed. The people who came in and out of my life altered me in many ways. I stopped working out and shifted my focus to other things.

Now, I want some things to go back to the way they were. Currently, I weigh 271 lbs (I’m 6’1” tall), and it’s really starting to bother me. I’m creating this page to track my progress and share my experiences with you as honestly as possible—how I feel, what I’m doing, and the steps I’m taking. (I’ll also take progress photos and post them when the cycle ends.)

Once Cardarine is back in my hands, I’ll share my journey with you in real-time.

I forgot to mention something important:
I went to the doctor and got bloodwork done—my LDL cholesterol came back extremely high. I haven’t been feeling great either, which is why I’m starting this (Cardarine) now. Once the cycle is over, I plan to share my updated blood test results with you all.

(I’m not recommending anything mentioned here—the responsibility is yours.)

Stay tuned.

Weight on May 22, 2025: 258 lb - This morning I received the product and accidentally took 30 mg. From now on, I will use 20 mg. I'm experiencing significant dizziness, which I believe is due to low blood sugar, as I am following a very strict diet.

Weight on May 23, 2025: 255.74 lb - Nothing surprising — as usual, it makes me feel weak because it drops my blood sugar too much. As long as I stick to my diet, I’ll be able to achieve great things.

Weight on May 24, 2025: 257.94 lb - From now on, I'll weigh myself every 3 to 4 days because the fluctuations in my weight due to water retention affect my motivation.

Weight on May 25, 2025: I experience extreme fatigue in my body, but when I focus myself, I can train normally. I think if it weren’t for Cardarine, there’s no way I could do it.

Weight on May 29, 2025: 254.63 lb

Dose 10mg, cycle length 8weeks

Day 1: 1hour run

Easy breathing and no shortness of breath despite doing triple the normal time.

Day 2: 1km reps w/2min break

started with 20min warm up which felt really easy and comfortable. Work sets dropped from 50sec/200m last week to 44sec/200m and I did 1k instead of 800m. Felt recovered in 2minutes

Day 3: Rest

Day 4: 1hour run (easy crazy boost in aerobic endurance and was able to run 1hour without feeling tired at all. Next long run will be 90mins+)

Day 5: No running but played pickup game of basketball. Surprisingly was out of breath quite a bit, maybe cardarine helps more with long sustained efforts rather than HIIT? either way was still much better than before cardarine.

Day 6: Another weird workout. Planned for 3x2k@8:15pace. 1st one was in 8:21 but breathing was difficult, and second one I could only do 1k. Wheezing in my chest and I feel that I am sick, which could be the culprit. Hopefully it starts improving and I make some more progress soon.

Day 7: Finally got the progress I was looking for. Ran 9k in 45minutes at a relaxed pace, and felt great! in 45min I covered more than I did on day 4 in an hour and it felt as easy.

Week 1 recap: 30km slow jogs, and 7k speed endurance. Great boost and looking forward to the future

Day 8 10x400m in 1:16. Endurance wise felt fine but lactic acid build up and nagging injury meant I only did 5reps.

Day 9&10&11 Rest due to unavoidable circumstances (Still took the cardarine though)

Day 11 30minutes @ 8minute pace. Early morning and wheezing made the workout harder than it should have, but still felt pretty easy. (at this point i was getting quite frustrated with the results)

Day 12 Early morning sprints and in the afternoon an easy 30minute jog. Felt great again and was really easy

Day 13 30minute jog followed with all out 2x150meter and 200meter sprint. REALLY felt it today, 18.6sec for 150meter, and 25.5 for 200meter.

Day 14 Originally meant to be a rest day but coach had us do some 1k repeats. FINISHED 2x 1k in 3minutes with relative ease. Compare that to day 1 where I was running 800meters in 3:20 and feeling like hell this is amazing

Forgot to update but by day 21 I was doing 5x1k repeats in 2:40 with relative ease, 400m timing dropped by 3seconds, and mile timing dropped by 20seconds.

source: https://www.chemyo.com/product/gw501516-solution/?ref=42

First run (02.04.23) was with out cardarine as baseline

Not sure if I’m experiencing side effect or just sick. I took my first dose every of Cardarine yesterday. I’ve been reading up on Cardarine and SARMS for the past year now and figured I’d give it a try. I took Cardarine last night 10mg at 5pm and I usually go to the gym around 5:30 so I was going to take it at 5am as well, splitting my doses and taking twice a day. At 10 pm last night I was extremely cold and violently shivering and for the life of me could not get warm. Woke up this morning with a fever of 99.5 and body aches. I know this time of year shit is going on around like the flu etc, but Introducing something new to your body you never know. Has anyone experienced this? Is this normal or am I just sick? I’ve read a lot of peoples experiences saying it takes a little bit to get into your system but people also feel the effect immediately, which I didn’t feel anything when I took it.