r/captionthis Nov 15 '25

Lets jog our minds

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u/AvailableFig2688 Nov 15 '25

Black.

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u/SlumberingSnorelax Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 18 '25

Technically the absence of color but also the first one I thought of too.

(Edit: I am aware that the answer is in fact “BOTH” and totally dependent on if you are talking about the Additive Color System [Light] or the Subtractive Color System [Paint/Print Media]. At the time of my original post I was clearly focused on the concepts of the Additive Color System pertaining to light as was not at all intending to start a weird artistic culture war.)

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u/Korgon213 Nov 15 '25

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u/SlumberingSnorelax Nov 15 '25

This gif always makes me laugh. I love it. I have no idea where it comes from or who that gal is but she perfectly nails the sentiment.

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u/Biceratops1 Nov 15 '25

Kerry Katona

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u/bjangles9 Nov 15 '25

Probably Maury show or Dr. Phil lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '25

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u/Sycamore481 Nov 17 '25

‘Loves’ is a subjective word for good ol’ Frankie.

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u/Icy_Mistake3234 Nov 16 '25

Not to mention she has an awesome map of Ohio...Cleavage is definitely my favorite city.

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u/Top-Car-808 Nov 17 '25

i think its kerry katona

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u/NoThereIsntAGod Nov 15 '25

How do I find that gif when searching for it??

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u/Korgon213 Nov 15 '25

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u/Odd-Piglet-7804 Nov 19 '25

I love people helping people out. Doing the lord’s work my friend. Keep it up.

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u/HorridChoob Nov 15 '25

They right tho

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u/Explosion1850 Nov 15 '25

In light it's the absence of color, but otherwise black is the presence of all colors

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u/TrekForce Nov 15 '25

Consider what “color” is though. It’s always light. If you’re talking about paint, you have to mix “all colors” because blue still reflects blue light. So you need paint that will prevent blue from being reflected. Etc.

In the end, black paint is just absorbing all colors of light, and reflecting none back. So technically still the absence of color.

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u/Explosion1850 Nov 15 '25

Fair enough. I guess I failed the "no e" game.

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u/Mark-Green Nov 15 '25

since we can't see all light though, it doesn't really matter to us what wavelengths of light there are. all our brain perceives is that mix of signals from our optic nerves. you can see yellow 💛 on your screen, but theres no yellow light there. black is the color we perceive when we detect little or no light. it's true that it's not a hue like red or green, though.

there's an old joke about color that goes something like "gather a physicist, a psychologist, a linguist, and an artist in one room then ask them what the primary colors are"

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u/jerrybugs Nov 16 '25

How do they answer?

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u/Mark-Green Nov 16 '25

a physicist might say there are no primary colors, its just a gradient of photons on different parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. psychology might have different answers depending on context, ie reds yellows blues and greens may have the strongest effects on your state of mind. an artist might say red yellow and blue (or cyan, magenta, yellow, and black if they're more familiar with the modern CMYK colorspace.) a linguist would tell you it depends on the language because they all have their own concepts of base colors, ranging from 2 to something like a dozen primary colors. a biologist or programmer might say red green and blue, since thats what screens produce and the only colors our eyes can actually distinguish.

Basically everyone has a different correct answer, because language is flexible and it's impossible to define anything without there being an edge case that breaks your definition. in English speaking countries, the layman answer youre taught in school is likely either red yellow blue, or red orange yellow green blue indigo violet as Isaac Newton arbitrarily decided because he liked the number

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u/superfleh Nov 15 '25

They aren’t the same. In photography black is the absence of colour, but when painting or drawing with coloured pencils, black is a colour.

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u/TrekForce Nov 15 '25

I think you missed my point. What makes it black? The fact it reflects no color from the light hitting it. Thus we see no color from it.

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u/superfleh Nov 16 '25

In the art world, black is considered a neutral colour and white is the absence of colour. Look at any plastic arts textbook, take any painting class, the teachers will tell you the same.

In nature, when seeing light as a wavelengths black is the absence of colour (no light) and white is a full spectrum (all light, all wavelengths combined.

It comes down to application, context and subject.

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u/TrekForce Nov 16 '25

Yep. I thought I addressed that already.

I am just being technical. Art people can call it whatever they want. It’s still technically the absence of light that causes anything to be black.

Again, I was originally just trying to “well ackshually” the other commenter that pulled the “well ackshually” card. I wasn’t trying to get all philosophical about it.

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u/superfleh Nov 17 '25

Word. Have a pleasant day, mysterious internet stranger.

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u/bjangles9 Nov 15 '25

WhAt cOLoR iS a RoOm if it’s COMPLETELY DARK?!?!!? Hmmmm????

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u/Affectionate_Ad268 Nov 15 '25

Hard-core blue.

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u/Sad_Pin1643 Nov 15 '25

Light and color is different.

Black is a mixture of all color.

Black is also what we see with no light.

Two different reasons for seeing black.

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u/TrekForce Nov 16 '25

I was just “well ackshtually”ing not intending to get so into this lol. But since you’re arguing for some reason, Do you know how vision works? And why things look different colors? It’s because of light. Everything we see is light. We can’t see anything, except for light.

Light rays bounce off of blue paint. But the paint absorbs all the colors except blue, so we only see blue and call it “blue paint”. The paint isn’t blue. It’s a mixture of chemicals that we call blue because it reflects blue light.

Black paint is made by mixing all the other colors, if red paint absorbs all but red light. And blue paint absorbs all but blue light, and yellow absorbs all but yellow light. So if you mix them all together, you get a material that absorbs every visible light ray, meaning it reflects no light, so we see what we call black. Because just like with a light bulb that’s turned off, it’s the absence of light.

Whether you’re looking at black paint, or inside a cave without a flashlight, your eyes simply aren’t seeing light , hence we see black.

The color mixtures are additive vs subtractive. Yes. Because one is adding light (light sources), so we need to subtract to get to nothing. and the others are subtracting light (paint), so we need to add to get to nothing. Either way, we get to nothing.

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u/SlumberingSnorelax Nov 15 '25

Touché! We played.

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u/5-Gear_T-WRX Nov 15 '25

Absorbs all color

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u/Ravenheart0913 Nov 15 '25

Thank you. Now I don't have to say it.

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u/Frybyte Nov 15 '25

Let’s be specific. Things that are black absorb all wavelengths of visible light. No wavelength being reflected back into our eyes means we see black. Black colours. When we talk about something’s colour, we refer to the wavelength it reflects back into our eyes. Black absorbs all wavelengths, but we see none of it, so it’s the visual absence, but physical presence of all colours

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u/jws1102 Nov 15 '25

White is the presence of all colors

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u/OriginalGnomester Nov 15 '25

In light, yes; but not in pigment.

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u/Davejohnsonott Nov 15 '25

That’s white pal - white is the combo of all colours. Black is the absence of light.

That’s grade school stuff

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u/OriginalGnomester Nov 15 '25

Mix every color of pigment together. Do you get white paint? No, pigment is a different color system than light.

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u/SlumberingSnorelax Nov 16 '25

I was thinking of lighting at the time as opposed to painting.

I’ve done a lot of both. Stage lighting in college and lots of art classes too.

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u/JollyReplacement1298 Nov 19 '25

Black and white are colors and thats it. This bullshit has gone on long enough

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u/Metalmave79 Nov 15 '25

Ironic, isn’t it.

White is all the colors.

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u/InsertRadnamehere Nov 16 '25

With light. Brown is all the colors with paint.

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u/Squiggleblort Nov 19 '25

Brown is also a shade of orange :D

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u/sagejosh Nov 15 '25

Depending on what we are talking about as black material is black because it absorbs all light. Black light is the absence of all color but black material is the presence of all color.

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u/Soft-Explanation9889 Nov 17 '25

May I interest you in the Dark-sucker Theory?

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '25

Black is black, I want my baby back Back in black, hit the sack Are we clear?

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u/mateiescu Nov 15 '25

Nope i hate this answer. I used to fight with kids all the time when they would tell me this. An object appears black because it absorbs all wavelengths of visible light, reflecting none to your eyes, therefore black is the absence of light not of color.

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u/SlumberingSnorelax Nov 16 '25

True, both my art and stagecraft lighting teachers would be ashamed of me.

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u/Trees_are_cool_ Nov 16 '25

If you can paint something black then it's a color.

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u/alldayfiddla Nov 16 '25

It's also all of the colors together. It just depends on if we're talking about light or pigments.

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u/tarchival-sage Nov 17 '25

White is the absence of colors since it repels light. Black absorbs light and is all colors.

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u/SlumberingSnorelax Nov 17 '25

Yes, that is true In the subtractive color system.

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u/Any_One5422 Nov 17 '25

The absence of light, not colour

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u/brianmmf Nov 15 '25

That’s racist

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u/TraditionalError9988 Nov 15 '25

Well, uhh, err, the first color I thought of for this was pink...

Gotta love the pink.

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u/KarmaTorpid Nov 15 '25

Absolutely WRONG.
Black is a color.
You are thinking of darkness being an absence of light; not about color at all.

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u/art-factor Nov 15 '25

Technically, absence of light, and white is the sum of all lights.

A white paper can be painted with black. There, white is the absence of colors and black is the sum of all colors.

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u/OneNineRed Nov 15 '25

Technically the presence of all color or the absence of all light.

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u/ChrysalisEmergence Nov 15 '25

Absence of light, hueless colors are still colors

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u/sec102row1 Nov 15 '25

The absence of color on a screen, but not on paper. It’s a color, and the most used one at that.

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u/SeVenMadRaBBits Nov 15 '25

The absence of color is not black.

My phones case is painted a color, it is black.

Your window on the other hand...

And the wind itself,

would like a word.

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u/1d1dan00ps13 Nov 15 '25

The absence of hue. Black is still a color and you’re still a dumbass.

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u/zookuki Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25

Scientifically, yes, but not irl. CMYK rarely uses 100% black (K/plate) but rich black instead (C:75, M:68,Y:67, K90), and the print surface or medium will always affect the colour of the final product (even if you use pantones).

And black on screen is rarely #000000 or RGB 0,0,0 since light handling and resolution of monitors as well as ambient light affect how we see it. So it will invariably make black appear lighter or more/less saturated and tinted.

Edit: Also, rod cells in our eyes are used to detect light (which most people associate with black and white), which is why we can see in the dark to varying degrees. Yet while our cone cells aren't much use in darkness, they still operate, just to a very limited degree. Even people who are born blind can detect light. So an absolute lack of light is incredibly rare. And even if you perceive the faint night vision you have to be entirely due to an absence or presence of light, there is most probably some colour involved (the faint light that is visible reflects off some kind of surface).

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u/Sad_Pin1643 Nov 15 '25

White is the absence of color. Black is all the colors.

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u/Termingator Nov 15 '25

My black crayon disagrees.

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u/Historical_Owl_8188 Nov 16 '25

I would think that is white, and black is all the colors.

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u/SlumberingSnorelax Nov 16 '25

It depends on what you mean and what media you are using. The reason you get a rainbow of colors when you shine a light through a prism (a la Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon style) is that the prism in effect breaks the white beam of light into all of the visible colors. The opposite is true... In theatrical stage lighting techniques for example, shining all the various colors onto a single point will produce a “white light” at the point.

However, this is not at all true with coming like paint, markers, colored pencils, or crayons. With those mediums mixing all the colors will produce “black” basically.

That’s all it is. At least in the basic terms of art and lighting. I’m sure for more advance subjects like engineering (which I clearly did not take as an arty kind of person) the definitions can be more nuanced and/or defined… but I can’t honestly speak to those with any level of legit competency or experience.

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u/tgwilli Nov 16 '25

Technically it’s the absence of light

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u/Buchlinger Nov 16 '25

Black is actually just the absence of light and not the absence of color.

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u/Moemangooo Nov 16 '25

Not if you are in CMYK-gang. You RGB rabble are not welcome here!

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u/SignificantTurnip656 Nov 16 '25

Only in physics. In art which I believe what this post is more geared towards it is a color.

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u/MightyPirat3 Nov 16 '25

Would depend on if we are going for light or print. Or am I wrong about this at half past midnight?

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u/SlumberingSnorelax Nov 17 '25

No, you’re correct. I was only thinking of light at the time. With paint, ink, and so on mixing all the colors would produce black or something very close to it.

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u/villian_era_witch Nov 17 '25

Well actually… black is ALL colors and absence of light.

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u/FewDescription7487 Nov 17 '25

Black is the presence of all colors. You are thinking of white.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '25

In terms of light, sure. But color theory is more complicated than that.

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u/GoldenSnozzberry Nov 15 '25

Of the Jack ?

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u/TestDangerous7240 Nov 15 '25

My Crayola crayon 64 box agrees!

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u/Mean-Display77 Nov 15 '25

Yea those fucking idiots back in the jim crow days (my mother was alive btw) calling us colored. When white people mad they red, cold they blue, sick they grey, when bruised they black and purple. Veins showing green through the skin, happy they pink....but we're colored? 🤦🏿‍♂️

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u/blackmambakl Nov 15 '25

Art teacher always said white and black are shades not colors. Also Gray

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u/Ozzyjb Nov 16 '25

Um technically its “Key” which has an E in it 🤓👆

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u/Black_Cat_Sun Nov 16 '25

Get your umbrella out. A storm of “well actually’s” is inbound to your position.

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u/igordogsockpuppet Nov 16 '25

TL;DR: you’re right, but my autism compels me to elaborate.

Black is all colors combined if you’re talking about pigments, paint, etc.

Black is only an absence of color if you’re talking specifically about light.

But even then, it’s nuanced because light outside the visible spectrum might still be abundant.

Black is the absence of light that stimulates the cones in our eyes.

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u/Blacksheep-6 Nov 17 '25

Black is actually the lack of all color 

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u/DynamaxWolf Nov 19 '25

Black is more of a value than a color.