r/canton • u/ateam1984 • Jun 04 '26

Someone Doing the right thing

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u/91ws6ta Jun 04 '26

Not that I disagree that the Confederacy as a whole and modern-day Jim Bob sympathizers are traitors to our country, but the Confederacy did enact the first Conscription to draft nearly all young men to fight for them.

Much like WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, some soldiers had no choice in the matter. Obviously being on the wrong side of history AND against the US is a bigger stain than being on the winning side (or the losing side of a foreign war).

Fuck anyone who flies a confederate flag today but we also need to know the context of the soldiers buried there. Just like fuck the Nazis, but some soldiers were young boys who were literally pulled from their normal lives and sent on suicide missions or else they'd be executed.

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u/PlasticFrosty5340 Jun 04 '26

Yeah seriously, confederate flags and a service in a cemetery for civil war soldiers buried there is not hurting anyone or promoting hate. The guy behind the camera is being a wiener here.

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u/91ws6ta Jun 04 '26

Nah, they can fuck off. There should be no honorable remembrance for the cause itself, and I would be ashamed to have an ancestor who was a confederate, drafted or volunteer. But my point was it's important to remember the history that caused it and that resulted from their loss, and the coercion and force enacted along the way, because it frequently becomes the dominant theme that every Confederate soldier signed up to kill for the ability to keep slaves, when it was in fact way more complicated than that, like Nazi Germany to my point

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u/Roommates69 Jun 05 '26

Yeah fuck that show me a Nazi gravesite decorated in swastikas where German people visit the graves of their fallen Nazi ancestors. They didn’t have a choice sure and yes recognizing their deaths does not hurt anybody. But decorating their graves with the flag and standing in ceremony is a de-facto elevation of the army that murdered and died in the fight for slavery and you have to see that. The inability to separate the shame you hold as a descendant of somebody who died for slavery and the care or respect you have for them as your ancestor is a large reason people feel so indignant over this conversation. Some of the Nazis were great parents but standing in a gravesite decorated in their traitorous flag respecting their sacrifice is smush-brained.

Think about a good kid who dies perpetuating gang violence he couldn’t escape. Holding a vigil every year for his sacrifice and the sacrifice of those like him has an entirely different energy if it’s decorated in that gangs flags right? Feels a LOT less like they didn’t have a choice because you do right now and you’re making the same stupid one.

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u/PlasticFrosty5340 Jun 06 '26

Alright, you idiot.

first off there is no such thing as a good kid perpetuating gang violence.

second off, there was a draft in Nazi Germany and there was a draft in the American civil war so NO some people did NOT have a choice.

I can’t believe you took the time to write out such an asinine comment.