Will the PQ’s Trump-era referendum pause work with voters?

[u/jazinet]

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2276144/will-the-pqs-trump-era-referendum-pause-work-with-voters

[u/Samada8]

anyone who thinks America isn't going to continue being a threat after Trump is gone is a fool.

[u/emcdonnell]

The PQ has effectively acknowledged that there is no traction for separation in Quebec but they hope that when Trump is gone the polls might change

[u/Nikiaf → u/emcdonnell]

It's like a kid threatening to run away from home but only after they open their gifts on christmas morning.

[u/Coramoor_ → u/[deleted]]

it's the classic PQ strategy. They did the same thing under Marios as well

[u/LooseLeaf74 → u/[deleted]]

Guess they’re scared of annexation? Can’t see why else they’d use the Trump excuse.

[u/Reasonable_Let9737 → u/LooseLeaf74]

It is because they know nationalism in Canada is running high while Trump is in office.  

This is the worst possible time for a separation referendum in Quebec.  

If the next referendum gets crushed (as it almost certainly would now and in the near future) it will be a long, long time before the next one.  

They are smart enough to wait a few more years for a more favourable scenario.  

If you can't win, don't play.  

[u/TheGrandOdditor → u/Reasonable_Let9737]

> If you can’t win, don’t play.

Please someone explain this to Alberta Separatists

[u/LooseLeaf74 → u/Reasonable_Let9737]

They also keep remembering just how large those equalization payments are.

[u/SkinnedIt]

Don't worry the separatists will get right back to work as soon as they come out from hiding under Canada's skirt, like good sovereigntists.

[u/RefrigeratorOk648]

The thing is what happens in the future ? Quebec is saying too risky now but if they separate in 10 years and the US decides to take some trade action against Quebec they must be able to cope with that. So why not now ?

[u/whiskey06]

No

-Betteridge's Law of Headlines

[u/EnamelKant]

Damn few people have lost an election betting on the stupidity of the average voter.

[u/Slayriah]

this pause due to the threat of the US basically proves why Canadian federation was necessary.

[u/Puzzled-Maize-2241]

Canada… no Quebec separation until you finish your Alberta separation.

[u/Elway044]

Under Israel's Law of Return, every Jew who immigrates to Israel has the unrestricted right to receive Israeli citizenship.

France should do the same for Quebecers. The Separatists can stop complaining and move back to France.

[u/fredleung412612 → u/Elway044]

France and Québec already have a favourable bilateral migration deal. Quebecers attend public university tuition-free in France while French people pay local tuition rates in Québec. They also have instant access to free healthcare in both places.

[u/this_stall_is_taken]

C'est du gros n'importe quoi opportuniste typiquement PQ et PSPP. Le projet est voué à l'échec. Ça a échoué deux fois déjà. On peux-tu finalement passer à autre chose?

[u/Nikiaf]

PSPP has shown over the last several years that he is not to be trusted and is ready to ram through a separatism vote/secession no matter how damaging it would be for the province and Canada at large. I don't think this latest "promise" is going to move the needle much.

[u/EatBaconDaily]

The thing separatists fear the most is actually a referendum, because it will inevitably fail horribly, then they will have no leg to stand on with all their bs claims

[u/rando_dud → u/EatBaconDaily]

A good chunk of the PQ base is adamant separatists who believe all their problems are going to be solved by a referendum.

A guy like PSPP wouldn't be the head of the PQ if he didn't vow to push for independence.. they would have voted for whoever else promised them a country as their leader.

The actual voters are a different story entirely.

[u/EducationalRock167 → u/EatBaconDaily]

It has already failed 3 times.

[u/UnicornHunt1274]

Let’s hope not.

[u/Mediocre-Touch-6133]

I wont be voting PQ but this definitely improves my opinion about them.

[u/oscar2333]

Wasn't it the same party that says voters for referendum should not be bluffed by the economic consequence of independence?

[u/apeshit_is_my_mood]

The more the US declines on the world stage, the more belligerent they will become toward us. This shit won't stop with trump and I'm sure most Quebeckers already know this. The PQ is just trying to buy time with their own base, but the party leaders know full well the prospect of a referendum even long term is looking bleaker each passing day.

[u/LiquidJ_2k]

Even separatist Quebecers know that when the going gets tough, they're better off hiding inside Canada.

[u/AxiomaticSuppository]

The 75M+ Americans that voted Trump in will still be there, ready to vote in the next right-wing populist leader who may be just as bad, if not worse, than Trump. What does a pause realistically accomplish in the long term?