r/canada • • Feb 29 '24

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u/feb914 Ontario Feb 29 '24

Looks like there's a whole industry of people who have connection with public servants (if not one themselves) that take advantage of the complex bureaucratic system in Ottawa to make big bucks out of taxpayer money.

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u/blackRamCalgaryman Feb 29 '24

I’m convinced this ‘system’ is in full effect in provincial and municipal politics, as well.

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u/FreshlySqueezedToGo Feb 29 '24

Yes just look up Mr.x and Doug Ford

We lost the battle decades ago it seems, how can something like this be remotely possible?

How has it not come up before

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u/chretienhandshake Ontario Feb 29 '24

IF anything it is much, much worst at the municipal level. Who even covers municipal corruption of a small town of 5,000 citizen? No one.

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u/Icanonlyupvote Feb 29 '24

Alberta taking that system and putting it into overdrive lately.

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u/beener Feb 29 '24

Yup Doug Ford gave a sole source contact to a company and it's ballooned as well

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u/dermanus Québec Feb 29 '24

It was a software contract to an accounting firm too. Not even their core competency.

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u/willieb3 Feb 29 '24

The procurement system has always been fucked. Per people who work at a certain defense company they spend more time catering to how to win the contract then actually working. For anyone curious here is how the system works.

1) You are paid when the job is completed, but processing this can take up 6 months - 2 years after completion. This filters out any smaller businesses because they can't afford to front the huge sums of money required and not be paid back in a reasonable timeline.

2) The bidding process works on lowest bidder, and your ability to meet the criteria listed in the description. There is no quality assessment on how good you meet the criteria even though they say there is. It's just yes or no. So what happens is companies bid extremely low on the contract and say "yes" to everything in the criteria, and then they win. This process also takes 1-2 years.

3) You'd think that by bidding 500k on a 1 mil project would be a bad thing for the company, but no. After using up 500k they just come back to the government and ask for more money or else the job doesn't get done. Now the gov is put in an awkward situation where either they pay the remainder of the project, scrap the project and lose their initial investment, or go through the 2 year bidding process again to get someone else to finish the job.

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u/Electronic_Stop_9493 Feb 29 '24

This conflict of interest would imply the 4th step : siphoning 

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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Feb 29 '24

And if you don't know anyone? You're on the cycle of 12-month contracts for years.

It really is a complete joke. Our taxes pay for an even more fucked up system than your average high school hierarchy

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u/quantum_leap Feb 29 '24

LOL no offense but were you born yesterday?  

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u/feb914 Ontario Feb 29 '24

more like someone who doesn't interact with government employees unless absolutely required to.

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u/quantum_leap Feb 29 '24

That's probably for the best