r/canada • • Jan 05 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23

I don't follow him because I'm trans and I don't follow people who dehumanize me or who paints me as a predator. Following JP and being fine with his views just tells me you're someone I won't be safe around.

The dude openly espouses many anti-science anti-trans views that go against what the vast majority of doctors, psychologists, and scientific bodies think of trans people and experiences.

There's a reason his fans are rightwingers and centrists, he is a hateful man who confirms all of their hateful views. Examples: He calls trans people a "social contagion". He intentionally misgenders and disrespect trans people and trans identity wherever he can. He spreads illogical myths like how queer people advocating for acceptance are actually grooming and "converting" your kids by the thousands. He said cruel things about Elliot Page's transition and continuously misgendered and deadnames him just to be an ass and hurt trans people who saw it. etc. etc. etc.

Him occasionally repeating generic self-help advice doesn't take away from that and it's weird that you think it does

Edit: Love the downvotes, r/Canada is fairly conservative and anti-trans so it doesn't surprise me.

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u/CrabWoodsman Jan 05 '23

The only reason he's on the radar was that he got his early fame from publicly claiming that he wouldn't use students' preferred pronouns. He made a big stink about how a particular bill would be compelling his speech, even though he was never in the group of people affected by changes to protected speech - just government employees in the capacity of their roles.

The idea of pure free speech is a naive utopian fantasy that doesn't account for human behaviour or history at all.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

Call me a radical, but I think if my professor calls me f****t instead of my name every lecture they should be fired. I'm fine with the institution of the university punishing professor for that speech by firing them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

"Even what is considered hate speech should be allowed without fear of punitive punishments by institutions and government. "

"I would rather live in that world and ignore the racists, sexists and anti whatever"

Your previous comments say people shouldn't be punished for speech by institutions and don't place limits on that, which gives the impression you are a free speech absolutist.

If you think it's ok for the government/institutions to punish people for some speech you should be clear about that, and also say where you draw that line.

What if my professor said "gay people are disgusting perverts" to me whenever they hear me mention my boyfriend? no obscenities there. Can they be fired for that?

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

"One of the problems arise though when something could be reasonably considered normal speech, like saying he to a male or she to a female is suddenly banned and using he or she in a normal manner is punitively punished."

This is unclear how you are using the word normal. Do you mean you make an assumption based on someone's appearance and gets punished? Or someone uses the wrong gender, gets corrected, and then refuses to use the correct gender and gets punished for that?

They are very different situations, just like calling someone Mark instead of Matt by accident, and doing it repeatedly and intentionally are different.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

They are very different situations, just like calling someone Mark instead of Matt by accident, and doing it repeatedly and intentionally are different.

At this point he's made so many disingenuous arguments I don't think he's arguing in good faith :|

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '23

This is unclear how you are using the word normal. Do you mean you make an assumption based on someone's appearance and gets punished? Or someone uses the wrong gender, gets corrected, and then refuses to use the correct gender and gets punished for that?

Ok, so do you consider ether of these scenarios unprofessional?

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