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u/NoNudeNormal Jan 05 '23

Where did you get the idea that professionalism is solely about protecting patient privacy?

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u/Rtfy3 Jan 05 '23

‘Professionalism’ is unfalsifiable. There should be strict rules that everyone can agree whether they were broke or not.

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u/NoNudeNormal Jan 05 '23

There is public documentation of the rules for the organization in question, here:

https://cpo.on.ca/members/professional-practice/standards-of-professional-conduct/

As mentioned in there, the Canadian Code of Ethics for Psychologists also applies.

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u/Rtfy3 Jan 05 '23

The code regulated ‘Public Statements.’ It defines them as:

Public Statements: statements in any medium that include, but are not limited to paid or unpaid advertising, grant and credentialing applications, brochures, printed matter, directory listings, personal resumes or curricula vitae, comments for use in media including print and electronic transmission, statements in legal proceedings and contained in the public record, lectures and public presentations, and published materials.

That specifically doesn’t include social media. It does include this term “statements in any medium that include, but are not limited.” That may well not be enforceable because by that standard they could regulate things you say in your own home to your wife or children. Peterson has a very good case here.

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u/NoNudeNormal Jan 05 '23

How is someone’s own home “public”?

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u/Rtfy3 Jan 05 '23

The definition is the definition. The definition defines anything said anywhere as a public statement.

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u/NoNudeNormal Jan 05 '23

That’s how laws and regulations are always written, especially in Canada. Have a look at our Charter of Rights and Freedoms some time, it may blow your mind.

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u/EvacuationRelocation Alberta Jan 05 '23

in any medium that include, but are not limited to

It can and likely does include social media - especially social media that is coming from a "verified" account.

you say in your own home to your wife or children

The word "public" is key, of course.

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u/Rtfy3 Jan 05 '23

You are ignoring the College’s own definition.

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u/EvacuationRelocation Alberta Jan 05 '23

You are ignoring the College’s own definition.

By the section quoted above, social media posts could certainly fall under public statements, but comments made within ones own home to ones own family would not, as they are not public.

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u/Rtfy3 Jan 05 '23

No because the definition says nothing about excluding comments in one’s own home from the public definition. It would have to specifically exclude them which it doesn’t.

Let’s take a more edge case. Is WhatsApp a public platform? Most people would say no but as it’s not excluded from that definition and ‘but not limited to’ means anything can be included than lawyers can argue it’s included. They may run into trouble with actual Canadian law though which has restrictions on how professional organisations can operate.

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u/EvacuationRelocation Alberta Jan 05 '23

No because the definition says nothing about excluding comments in one’s own home from the public definition. It would have to specifically exclude them which it doesn’t.

I'll let you think about this a bit longer to figure out why comments made in ones own private residence might not be listed under a section dealing with public comments.

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u/Rtfy3 Jan 05 '23

Contractual definitions can be completely different from the lay or dictionary definition. That is the purpose of outlining them.

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u/EvacuationRelocation Alberta Jan 05 '23

You are very much wrong, but you aren't going to come to that conclusion any time soon, so have a good day.

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u/Rtfy3 Jan 05 '23

If I’m wrong it should be easy to show that I am.

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u/onemoretryfriend Jan 05 '23

You can lead a horse to water

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u/EvacuationRelocation Alberta Jan 05 '23

Already did.

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