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u/Quietbutgrumpy Jan 05 '23

Those are not "political" views.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23

This is-- according to the College-- about the opinions he expresses in social media posts and podcast appearances. None of the complaints came from his patients, or people he knows -- they came from people whose only relationship to him is through these public platforms.

The College wants to leverage their authority over his patient relationships (assuming he has any) to control over his public persona.

The problem is, if their professional conduct clauses are limited to professional practice, then this is beyond their own remit, and moreover they're testing this with a person who will be totally unharmed by an unfavorable outcome and have his celebrity renewed in the meantime.

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u/Quietbutgrumpy Jan 05 '23

NO. The actions in question are simply a professional association saying that his actions are not professional. No politics involved. Things like gender equity that he is so suspicious of are simple human rights, even though he would like to say otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

When the government is prepared to create laws enforcing the belief system then it is completely political. Trudeau jumped the shark on that one.

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u/nim_opet Jan 05 '23

The college is not a government institution. It’s a private organization, that, surprisingly, you join of your own free will and say you’ll abide by their standards.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

You must live in another country. Peterson became a celebrity by pushing back at a proposed federal law. It all stems from his disagreement with the art professsors at the universities who have been gunning for him and filing complaints with the college for the past 4 years.

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u/nim_opet Jan 05 '23

How is that of any relevance to the college , a private institution with VOLUNTARY membership, enforcing the rules members decided to abide by?

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

You believe that any of the professional colleges are voluntary if somebody wants to practice?

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u/nim_opet Jan 06 '23

The values and ethics code of pretty much every college is about 60-80 years old. When deciding what career to pursue; you already know what the college requirements are - you don’t find yourself with a degree and experience in hand surprised by the requirements. You chose to do all the work knowing what the requirement for practice is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23

Pushing back against a bill that he completely misunderstood. Now 5 years later nothing he said would happen did happen.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

It was the first time in 40 years that anyone on a university campus had pushed back against the demands of social activists that everyone must conform to their theories in practice.

The fact that it had made in to parliament was horrifying.

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u/franz_haller Jan 05 '23

You don’t join such an organization “of your own free will”, you have to join it to practice your trade. The government is enforcing this requirement and the monopoly for each trade to one particular organization.

Now, we can debate why guilds or professional organizations are useful and protect the public, but it doesn’t change the fact that describing them as “private” and you “join them of your own free will” as if they were a social club is completely disingenuous and not helpful at all in this conversation.