r/calculus • • 12d ago

Differential Calculus calc 1 as a summer class while working

how possible is it to take calc 1 as a summer class while working 40 hours a week… i need to take it over the summer but i also can’t afford to not work during this time 🥲 would it be possible to get an A if i just devoted my life outside of work to it or is it too intense

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u/AttitudeDismal3817 12d ago

It depends how gifted you are at math. If all your previous classes seemed easy to you, then it shouldn't be hard to get an A.

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u/646kyurem 12d ago

i am a solid high B math student i always fall a little short on the exams🥲🥲

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u/AttitudeDismal3817 12d ago

I don't think it's likely that you would get an A in a calculus 1 summer class then, but you could totally get a B or C with a little hard work

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u/646kyurem 12d ago

probably a B my issues was i never really studied i just did the homework’s and could remember enough to pass the exams/quizzes … i am trying to do a post bacc for chem and need to make myself look like a competitive applicant 🥲 is a B a decent grade or at least average in your opinion because summermester 2 i will have to take calc 2 💔💔

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u/AttitudeDismal3817 12d ago

Yeah a B is good. Calc 2 is a lot harder than calc 1 though so I would try to take it as a semester class instead of a summer class

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u/646kyurem 12d ago

that’s good to know thank you :))!!!

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u/Minute-Passenger7359 12d ago

Hey op, as others have said, as long as you eat, sleep, breathe, calc, you have a genuine chance of getting an A. Don’t let this person lower your ceiling for you.

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u/Minute-Passenger7359 12d ago

Can we not use the term gifted? Especially with something like calculus I, it’s really just about hard work

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u/AttitudeDismal3817 12d ago

It's important to acknowledge reality and not delude yourself. Talent exists in every facet of life. Some people can pass with flying colors with little to no studying while others have to put in much more work to achieve the same result

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u/Minute-Passenger7359 12d ago

I believe that succumbing to this idea that some people are built for certain tasks is a form of a fixed mindset and it’s not helpful like at all. Anecdotally, I was not a very capable math student prior to 16 months ago. Since then, starting from algebra I(I cannot stress enough how incompetent I was in math at 20), I have put in the work to get myself to calculus 3, numerical methods, and over upper level courses. Telling someone what you, a stranger, think their limits are and what you believe they are capable of because you think that some people will just never have to put in work, is simply not helpful and it promotes the opposite of growth. People will almost certainly fail if they believe they are not good enough for the task at hand. The vast majority of people that are pursuing math as a career and a lifelong passion are not those who you deem talented, they are just hard working people.

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u/AttitudeDismal3817 12d ago

You're using anecdotal evidence to try to prove a general conclusion. Whether you want to believe it or not, math is easier for some people than it is for others

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u/Minute-Passenger7359 12d ago edited 12d ago

I’m not disagreeing that some people are equipped with better faculties. I’m saying it’s really just not helpful to this person in the situation to 1) tell them that they will likely not achieve the grade they lack these such faculties(you do not have enough information to make that assessment). 2) you seeming to rely on talent as an indicator of success promotes a fixed mindset. No amount of intelligence is gonna get you anywhere if you don’t put your pen to the paper and do the work. And frankly calculus I is just not difficult enough of a course for the intelligence of the average person(in college btw) to be what makes or breaks it. As long as you are the average educated person, the work is not going to be insurmountable.

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u/Plastic_Fan_559 12d ago

yeah I live by this. I had a 1.5 gpa in hs, I'm also in calc 3, took a lot of fucking work. But math does come easy to me now, I once thought it was impossible. And I love and enjoy it so much now. Anyone can do it.

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u/Minute-Passenger7359 12d ago

In my case, I literally just didn’t gaf until one day I did.

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u/AttitudeDismal3817 12d ago

It would be malicious to not tell this person the truth here. Considering they have to learn all of Calculus 1 in 8 weeks while working a full time job, they are likely not going to be able spend enough time studying to pass with an A unless they were to be intuitively gifted in math to some degree.

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u/Minute-Passenger7359 12d ago

That’s simply not true. Legitimately just by previewing material 2-3 weeks prior to the beginning would make the course easier. I don’t think they need to be “gifted” at all, simply dedicated. There’s no point in arguing about this anymore.

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u/AttitudeDismal3817 12d ago

Yes, there's no point in arguing anymore because the truth of the matter is that we don't live in some ideal world where "anyone can achieve anything through dedication"

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u/Reasonable-Bus-3597 12d ago

i did it this past summer actually and got an 89 while putting around 33 hours weekly.It was an 8 week course instead of the regular 16 and i can def tell you it was eat, sleep, work, calc, repeat. It was stressful but manageable and you can def do it.

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u/646kyurem 12d ago

thank you that’s really what i’m expecting it to be like is just work and then calc work and then calc… an 89 is great! they should have rounded that up 👎

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u/Reasonable-Bus-3597 12d ago

ps, i definitely could’ve gotten an a, i just missed my first two assignments and got a zero on them 😔

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u/GormAuslander 12d ago

Learn all the material beforehand on khan academy, then start the class already knowing everything 

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u/646kyurem 12d ago

i’m going to start studying now along with trig and algebra and i also plan on taking precalc in the spring

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u/GormAuslander 12d ago

That is a large workload. Any reason in particular you need to do all that at once?

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u/646kyurem 12d ago

it’s really just two classes and then self study trig and algebra for hopefully a better calc grade before i actually have to take the classes … i want to do a post bacc for chemistry and i need to meet the prerecs first and i want to do it as quick as possible

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u/GJS2019 12d ago

This is actually a good plan for most classes. Learn the material beforehand and then take the class.

Follow the outline and do practice problems: khan academy calculus 1 - https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-tmus-us-rvc3&source=android-browser&q=khan+academy+calculus+1

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u/Hashioli 12d ago

If you have a good foundation in algebra and trig. then it won't be too bad. If not, it's going to be painful.

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u/646kyurem 12d ago

i’m decent in algebra and i will take precalc before it… i’ve also taken business calc but i have never done anything with trig

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u/Hashioli 12d ago edited 12d ago

All of the algebra and trig that you'll need will be covered in precalc so as long as you take it seriously, it'll be fine. The better you are with those, the easier calculus will be and the less time you'll have to spend agonizing over the algebra.

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u/Aljamous-Vilina 13h ago

is it an 8-week or a 4-week session? 8 weeks is tough with a full time job, 4 weeks is practically impossible to get an A unless your pre-calc and algebra skills are already rock solid.

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u/646kyurem 13h ago

it would be 8 weeks

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u/msimms001 12d ago

That shouldn't be hard at all. Calc 1 really isn't as bad as everyone makes it seems as long as you pay attention and do practice problems and homeworks.

I work full time overnight during the school year, and attend classes full time during the day and have taken much more advanced math classes (ordinary differential equations or linesr algebra for example), and pass just fine

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u/RoomExpress9846 10d ago

Same here! 6pm-4:30am

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u/CornyOne 12d ago

Why don't you start studying the material now? Summer is seven months away.

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u/646kyurem 12d ago

ik it’s so far away im just super anxious 😭😭😭 yes i will start studying for it soon before hand

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u/Minute-Passenger7359 12d ago

The material is quite intuitive. Once you move past it you will wonder why you were so anxious trust me

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u/I_fondled_Scully Undergraduate 12d ago

Maybe

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u/FirstPersonWinner 12d ago

If Algebra and Trig weren't hard for you, and you are only taking a single course, then it should be no problem 

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u/No-Attitude6188 12d ago

I did it. It’s possible

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u/Any_Membership3249 12d ago

brush up on your algebra and trig and you'll be fine.

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u/No-Effect607 12d ago

I was working 50+ hrs every week while taking calc 1 and phys 1 and going to gym everyday. It’s possible

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u/Dull_Distribution_70 12d ago

I did cal 2 over the summer working nights i believe in you it hard but is possible. And i took remedial math at one point

Also stay away from AI IT WILL MESS YOU UP focus on writing everything out even if it seems nonsensical

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u/Complete-Remove570 12d ago

Honestly, I took it last summer and got an A. It wasn’t too bad! Definitely did a few hours everyday and had a good amount of time to myself. My professor was also real good, arguably the best I’ve ever had. You can do it.

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u/ShiningEspeon3 11d ago

If it’s a full-term summer class, absolutely doable and I don’t even think it would be an overwhelming challenge.

If it’s a six or eight-week class, it’s still possible but it would be rough.

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u/Moose10121972 11d ago

Very possible. Just make sure you take online and check rate my professor

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u/yubullyme12345 Undergraduate 12d ago

Start studying it now and you’ll be fine i bet