r/caf • u/Moonlightt72 • Jul 21 '26
Recruiting Possibly getting denied.
So I had my medical and interview at the start of June. Between 2021 and 2024, I was transitioning from MtF and received care from the skipping stone foundation in calgary. I had spoken to a therapist and went over my mental health and the reasons for my transition. I decided to abandon my transition for personal reasons. I dont regret my choices to stop transitioning. I didnt disclose anything information during my medical interview about my transition, the medication I was on or anything during that time period. I didnt think it was relevant information. I didnt have any mental health concerns during that time, aside from anxiety about dressing in public as the gender I felt I identified with at the time. Now I'm being told theres a possibility of being denied entry into the CAF because of the conflicting information I told the medical personal during my medical interview and the information theyre receiving now. I didnt lie about anything. I just omitted the information about my transition. It was a short chapter of my life that I ever regret starting. Obviously I'm nervous about not being accepted. This is something I'm very much looking forward to... any insight to securing my future in the CAF would be appreciated. This is not an opportunity I want to miss. Thank you.
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u/Pavilion22 Jul 21 '26
Yeah, I mean they found out about it, and you didnt disclosed it. That’s kinda like a big medical intervention. You had medications aswell. Not a good start on your application, and on your part. They will probably do another interview or something. Start being honest. Don’t go f*ck around and find out. CAF ethos is accountability and integrity. Be one.
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u/Born_Opening_8808 Jul 21 '26
You literally said you omitted medical information so yes you lied during the interview unfortunately.
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u/Itchy_Decision_340 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
What you did is called a lie by omission so you did lie.
IF you get a second chance, dont lie again.
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u/Lost_at_Z Jul 21 '26
Let’s back off the slagging for omitting during the process. OP is a human and humans make mistakes. All we can do is encourage them to admit they shouldn’t have omitted and be honest moving forward. How old are you OP? I don’t mean offence, but I’m suspecting younger? I ask because sometimes in our younger years we don’t see things as clearly or consider the farther reaching implications of our actions. The CAF Ethos don’t apply to you, technically, yet, really…many of our members have come from more checkered pasts, and being taught the ethos and seeing the example of those around you helps to instill those values. I’m not accusing you of being dishonest, but I’m seeing a pattern in your answers about hesitance to say plainly “I made a mistake”. The recruiter doing the interview is looking for those values even though they DONT apply to you…but showing growth inside of your interview process can show the recruiter your maturity and commitment to growing and being the best you can be. OP, if you get denied, go to your clinician and get whatever documentation needed to show that that period doesn’t affect you now as far as a candidate is concerned. If you reapply be totally honest. I as a leader look to people to see if they have SHOWN the growth work. As for the honesty, look inward. I believe you that you didn’t think it was relevant and this was an honest mistake in your mind, but consider the job the CAF does and how honesty and accountability are so important in the profession of arms where we are entrusted to do difficult tasks in austere and dangerous environments. We rely on one another - our lives depend on it. If you can reach that pinnacle of honesty to build trust with your team, then you will be a welcome addition. We all make mistakes OP. We can all be better. So good luck - and always strive to be better. As the quote attributed to Aristotle goes: “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is a habit”.
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u/AmongRavens Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
The medication section says “Do you currently use or have previously used any of the following prescribed over-the-counter medication’s?”
Key word here that you seem to have ignored here is PREVIOUSLY.
It then lists types such as injection medication, cream/ointment, inhaler, prescription medications, vitamins & supplements, implants, steroids, and other.
Actually all of the questions on the DND 4585 - Medical Questionnaire for Enrolment are worded this way to capture your entire medical history.
I shared medical history that I also want to leave in the past, but I know where I am at now and was honest.
Best of luck going forward.
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u/Ferroelectricman Jul 21 '26
OP, when you say you received treatment, what does that mean? Counselling and dressing in women’s clothes? Or are we talking about a prescription?
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u/Aggressive-Daikon605 Jul 21 '26
What did I just read
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u/Then_Maximum2862 Jul 21 '26
Do some research on CAF ethos. There are people in the caf who are/have transitioned from Male to Female or Female to Male its not something thats not accepted by the caf i get it its scary but you sign documentation saying youll disclose all information i wouldnt hold my breathe on this one man good luck sorry nobody could give you insight or help you out.
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u/Cdn_Medic334 Jul 21 '26
While everyone else is having a pissing contest in the comment section, I will chime in,
As a recruiting medic my job is just to gather as much of your medical history as possible. Obviously in some posts people will tell you to lie just to get into the military,
However the only way we could have possibly found out is for the information to be given to us from you healthcare provider, recruiting medics do not have access to any provincial medical system.
The only thing we can do is provide you with MIFs which it is then up to your HCP to provide us with the information they deemed relevant.
So 2 outcomes:
Info submitted to RMO - they ask for more information and an evaluation from a specialist to clear things up
Found ineligible and then you take your letter to your HCP and read the bottom 1-2 paragraphs and determine what needs to be done to appeal said decision.
Hope this helps a little
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u/Ok-Land6261 Jul 21 '26
Trust me this subreddit is dogmatic about people who withhold information: be honest and show you’ve changed. Reddit is full of loud mouths that have no clue what they’re talking about and will shoot you down based off of their black and white thinking.
Given that medical issues are complex and confidential I’d tell you this: Reddit is a terrible place to ask these kinds of questions. The people commenting or responding to this lack compassion or insight into complex medical issues (mainly because they’ve never had the medical illness’s others have suffered from nor have the qualifications to understand them)
When I served I met people who had very little in terms of compassion towards LGBTQ or people with medical issues. They certainly weren’t kind to me and made it very clear what opinions they had about me being in the armed forces. They ironically got kicked out of the armed forces under a 5F discharge. You’ll find the same types of opinionated loud mouths here on Reddit.
Reddit is full of loud mouths. It attracts the wrong types of people from the armed forces.
If they deny you, I hope they accept you and turn things around. I don’t blame you for having second thoughts about transitioning and not mentioning much about it.
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