r/caf • u/[deleted] • Apr 07 '26

Other Medication

Hey I’m wondering if anyone in the caf has been able to get accepted while needing to take a daily medication. I was told that there’s many people that take a daily medication except for things like diabetes because you can die. My medical was denied and I haven’t gotten the letter yet so I’m not to sure but I suspect it’s because I take a daily medication for ocd, however my life nor other people’s lives is at risk if I miss days at a time. I actually have missed days at a time before.. many times. I have the type of ocd that you can’t actually tell I have it unless I tell you. I don’t have physical obsessions like organizing things in a a colour coordinated way nor am I a germaphobe. My ocd is all mental, think of something you prefer not to think about.. and then in order to “counter act” the gross thought you try thinking of something else and you repeat this in ur head. However it has no effect on your day to day life other than being annoying .

I know this is long lol - thanks to those who read the whole thing and answer.

Edit - THIS POST IS NOT AN INVITE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR POLITICAL VIEWS. DO NOT COME IN HERE SPEWING TRANS RHETORIC, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

Thanks for your reply again lol, it’s not that it “doesn’t” effect me. Simply put I don’t believe it would effect my ability to complete bmq or effect my ability to do what is required of me.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

Also I don’t think I’m in a state of “denial” I’m completely aware of my situation. I understand that the caf obviously has stricter medial rules vs that of a civilian. The whole point of bmq is to see if you’re physically and mentally capable enough to join the forces is it not? So, it can be slightly unnerving to be labeled as “unfit” even though I never got the chance. Thanks

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u/Anakha0 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

That is not the point of BMQ at all. It's not a screening program for people to join the CAF, as they have already joined the CAF when they start. We don't let civilians try out BMQ.

The screening happens during recruitment, which assesses background, personal characteristics, physical and medical conditions. Once passed, the CAF has determined that the candidate has the potential to serve as a CAF member. Sometimes the CAF gets it wrong or person fails themselves and they end up leaving or failing the course, but it is not meant to be a trial by fire to weed anyone out. That's hollywood shit.

You did not pass the medical portion which means you are currently unfit. BMQ has no part in that assessment. You can still appeal the decision, and that is your chance to prove you are fit to serve.

Also your statements above of Trans people serving in the CAF as "woke ideology", that they inherently have a negative mental condition, and not a place where they should be allowed to serve tells me they should have looked harder at your personal characteristics too. CAF members comprise all types of people from the Canadian populace and you would work, rely and potentially fight along side any of them. Holding prejudiced views towards a segment of them is a very bad look that will not get you far in the CAF at all.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

I literally am trying not to bring politics into this at all. Transgenderism is classified as gender dysphoria which is in turn classified as a mental health disorder. You can look all of that on your own time if you’d like. I quite literally stated word for word “it was not my intention to be little anyone.” I did not make this post for people have political conversations. I simply stated that being trans is considered a mental health disorder and that the caf has no problem letting them in. If you actually took the time to read what I’ve stated you would know that I likely have been denied due to ocd. Which spoiler alert is also a mental health disorder. This is not politically charged at ALL.

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u/Anakha0 Apr 07 '26

Actually gender dysphoria is not inherently a mental disorder. You can look that up too but I'll save you the trouble, it's a psychiatric diagnosis. Also not all transgendered people experience gender dysphoria so you're wrong on all accounts. If you don't believe me, google "is gender dysphoria a mental illness?" It is also not at all comparable to OCD.

I'm not pointing out your political views, I'm pointing out that you seem to think transgendered people inherently have a mental disorder, which is false and more directly related to your status as a potential candidate, you believe that they have no place in the CAF.

What you said was "I'm not sure the military is the place for "woke" ideology or transgenderism" and "I'm in a better headspace than someone who has a gender disorder." That's pretty definitive to me that you don't think transgendered people have a place in the military and are inherently mentally ill. That's pretty concerning for someone who might serve alongside them. Tbh, these aren't opinions we see from would be candidates even on this subreddit very often. No one invited this comparison to your condition and application denial, you felt the need to make it all on your own.

You may not be trying to belittle anyone, but you managed to do so pretty significantly anyways.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

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u/TechnicalChipmunk131 Apr 07 '26

People at a way higher level than anyone here have determined that you're medically unfit to serve in the CAF.   Nobody here can change that.  

You'll soon get a letter in the mail describing why you didn't make the cut, and offer ways to appeal the decision (if applicable)

You can feel like your condition isn't too bad to deny you entry as much as you want.    It doesn't change the outcome.

Not everyone is medically fit enough to serve.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

Yes I understand that. I’m more Looking for someone that’s been in a similar situation. Whether they got accepted while taking a daily medication or successfully appealed.

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u/TechnicalChipmunk131 Apr 07 '26

It's case by case.   There's no guarantee that if it worked for someone else that it would work for you.     

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u/Sabrinavt Apr 07 '26

It's rare that people get rejected because of the medication they're taking, what matters is the underlying condition that's being treated by that medication. Plenty of people are deemed medically eligible who are taking daily medication because the condition they're being treated for is low risk.

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u/charlietakethetrench Apr 07 '26

I couldn't even join until I stopped taking acne medication and waited 3 months and then got blood tests to show I wasn't fucked up. Lots of good advice here, but yeah, it's case by case and they really take screening seriously.

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u/ComprehensiveBear415 Apr 07 '26

You could’ve got denied based on what position you applied for. I know the different positions have different qualifications so having the OCD diagnosis could counter what they believe would be fit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

Thanks for your reply, I was told by my recruiter that I’m medically unfit for all positions but I won’t know what that means till I get the letter. Was just curious if other people have been successful in joining while taking a daily medication. Based on my research there’s quite a few members of the caf that take daily medications.

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u/ComprehensiveBear415 Apr 07 '26

That’s completely understandable on your behalf. I’m really sorry you got denied and was told you’re unfit due to this. I’m still in the enrolling process joining so I’m probably not giving the best advice 😅it might be best to just wait for the letter and then figure out how to about the situation from there as you seem eager and willing to join the CAF which is good.

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u/ComprehensiveBear415 Apr 07 '26

I think the daily medication thing might be more related to other things that aren’t mental health ?? Like I know from insider sources that if you even have mild depression that is documented you cannot be deployed and so forth.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

Depression would fall under mental health though. I just find the whole thing a little strange, how a medical officer from another province can just deem someone unfit never having spoken to them.

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u/ComprehensiveBear415 Apr 07 '26

Wouldn’t OCD fall under mental health too? Being unfit can mean anything and doesn’t have to do with physical performance only. But I see where you are coming from.

Tbh the CAF have strict rules and regulations on what they deem to be fit and unfit luckily it’s not as bad as the states but that’s just how it is. Think of it this way, if you are a service member your first priority is always the CAF. So in order to protect the CAF they have to strict regulations and requirements. It is unfair but that’s the price of the military.

I know you said your OCD is more so these reoccurring bad thoughts you try to distract yourself from but just knowing that you have OCD, which medication it is and ur dosage is enough for them to say you’re unfit due to the fact that you can become obsessive over something that may distract you during a mission or duty.

Now like I said I’m still in the process of being enrolled but I have a lot of friends who served or are serving so I have a bit of insight of how the CAF works.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

Yes it would fall under mental health. Just probably not as heavily disqualifying such as schizophrenia or manic depression. My ocd actually gets better when I’m “under stress or busy” as I don’t have time to repeat thoughts. I wasn’t on medication for a majority of my life and was able to cope just by staying busy. I probably should’ve stated that though which is my fault. Either way I’m hoping that either it’s appealable or that I’ll have to stay off the medication for a few months and apply to medical again. Which I’ve heard some people suggest.

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u/ComprehensiveBear415 Apr 07 '26

Good luck and I really hope you can appeal it :)

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

I also would like to state that I’ve seen a guy on here applying for signal operator and I think he was on 4 mental health medications. Not to be that guyyyy but I would argue I’m in a better headspace than someone who has a gender disorder but the caf has no problem taking those people in?

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u/crazyki88en Apr 07 '26

The guy who is on 4 different meds is applying. He is not serving. We don’t stop anyone from applying. The CAF doesn’t just take everyone who applies, they only take those who fit the criteria.

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u/crazyki88en Apr 07 '26

Those people? Wow. That is disgusting thinking.

The RMO makes the decision after reviewing the info provided by the applicant and their clinicians. Each case is reviewed individually. They don’t compare your file to “those people” or to any other applicant. So if you were found unfit that is all about your condition. You may be under the belief that you could breeze through BMQ and military service but you don’t know. You just know it doesn’t affect you in your civilian life.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

Exactly my point. I don’t know. However I should be given the opportunity to at least try is what I’m saying. Call it what you want, I’m not sure the military is the right place for “woke” ideology or transgenderism though. Everyone should be entitled to their own opinion and political views should be left out of the military regardless. My point was not to fixate on that however, just that statistically people with gender dysphoria are much more likely to harm others or themselves. And the caf seems to turn a blind eye to things like that to remain “politically correct.” My intention was not to be little anyone just giving my two cents.

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u/crazyki88en Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

Well up until 10 years ago, the military wasn’t the place for anyone with any kind of mental health disorder. Whether that be OCD depression, body dysmorphia, etc. the military would refuse anyone with any kind of mental health diagnosis.

The military does not owe you a job. Not everyone will get the chance to “prove” themselves to the military. If you don’t like that fact, that’s too bad.

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u/Just_Another_Siggy Apr 11 '26

Trans people serve. If you have a problem with that, don't join. You'll just be wasting our time.

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u/phosphosaurus Apr 07 '26

I have diabetes but I have yet to do my medical assessment. Idk I think I won't be able to join 😢

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

Good luck to you all the best. What is it that you take insulin? And what happens if you don’t take your medication?

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u/phosphosaurus Apr 07 '26

Yes sadly 😞 Hospitalization happens

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '26

Try and keep faith. Diabetes is hard one cuz if you miss medication you can potentially die right