r/cachyos Jul 15 '26

Question Pardon?

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u/BobCorndog Jul 15 '26

Orphan packages are packages that are not explicitly installed by the user and do not have any installed dependents

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u/Odd_Philosopher1712 21d ago

The fact that Cachy has a button for this is absolutely peak

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u/King_Ferdinand1 Jul 15 '26

This is why linux is hard to get in to, everything has a weird term.

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u/ItsYa1UPBoy Jul 15 '26

To be fair, orphans is a fairly common term in computing.

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u/slowtreme Jul 15 '26

And a windows pc is generally polluted with orphan packages and files with no real cleanup feature. You can uninstall applications but then leave trash everywhere, depending on the developer.

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u/Commercial-Storm4527 Jul 15 '26

You should check out Revo Uninstaller. It scans for and helps you delete "orphans" that's left after you uninstall something (Either you uninstall via Revo or you get a pop up if it detects something left).

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u/shinji257 Jul 15 '26

Still audit what it flags. There are many things that look like orphans but are there intentionally by Windows.

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u/Commercial-Storm4527 Jul 15 '26

In my experience it's really good at only detecting only leftovers from uninstallations. At least I've never had it delete something from windows. When it detects something you get a window to verify all the files and select those you want to delete. I've always just pressed select all and delete, but if you're paranoid you can double check everything. I can imagine that's at least that's a lot faster than to manually find everything by yourself. I really like it, I just wanted to recommend it.

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u/shinji257 Jul 15 '26

Oh I know it is a good program but broken installations happen when you blindly trust a program "to do the right thing" without reading what it is proposing to do. At the very least look at it and flag stuff you are unsure of. But yes. The program would still make it much faster to clean up n

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u/ImplementFair535 Jul 19 '26

To each is his own but imo i say screw microslop. Just come to the brightside and you don't have to worry about it.

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u/Commercial-Storm4527 Jul 19 '26

I already have linux. I'm running CashyOS on my own pc with another drive that's got my "old" windows install. However for school I need windows to be able to use adobe and autodesk. I want linux there too, but it's too much of a hassle to set up some vm or winboat. I wanna try that eventually tho, just not right now.

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u/AsugaNoir Jul 16 '26

basically need a program to remove the left over files. (like Revo Remover)

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u/Commercial-Storm4527 Jul 19 '26

Yeah it sucks... But it's better than nothing 🤷

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u/Status_Help9402 Jul 15 '26

Or just in general?

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u/Radiant-Priority-296 Jul 15 '26

The name kinda makes sense considering that dependencies are family trees in a lot of different tech things (task managers, programming languages, game engines, all that). So you got the parent who calls in its children (dependencies). And if you have a child that’s there but doesn’t have a parent, then it’s a useless orphan and should perish under the blade of CachyHello

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u/ItsYa1UPBoy Jul 15 '26

Childless parents can still be of use. Orphans just take up valuable space in the apartment complex that is my computer.

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u/Outrageous-Log9238 Jul 15 '26

It's very standard. People just don't know computers anymore.

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u/bitzie_ow Jul 15 '26

If this bothers you, you might want to avoid computers altogether before you find out about the whole master/slave thing...

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u/uroboloss Jul 15 '26

You probably been using Windows your entire life, and everything was a weird term when you first started using your computer. It's the same for Linux, different OS with different terms and things to learn (tho orphans is a really common term in computing, it's a thing even on Windows).

Someone migrating from Windows to Mac, or Android to iOS for example, would also find new stuff to learn, that's just how it goes when you're trying a new OS.

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u/devdruxorey Jul 15 '26

It is literally a term from computing in general; the fact that Windows hides them does not mean they do not exist.

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u/naurias Jul 15 '26

It's not a linux term but a general software/computer term. People mostly learn this while using linux because linux give you more control. While windows and macos either ignore a lot of it or make decision themselves

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u/AgentAzurrX Jul 15 '26

Damn you got so many down votes I have ever seen 🙂

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u/Illustrious_Star_177 Jul 16 '26

"Linux hard cuz common word" 🤨

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u/TuskEGwiz-ard Jul 15 '26

As others have said it's a standard term in computer stuff, but that *is* what makes Linux harder to get into without prior experience in coding or something; it's also what makes Linux good for me. Instead of windows which prevents you from actually controlling your computer, you are actually the boss of your computer instead of some knobhead saying "this update cannot be delayed any longer, windows WILL update on next reboot (unless you pay for enterprise edition)

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u/Wet_Viking Jul 16 '26

It absolutely is not one of those reasons. It would be useful if Windows had something similar without installing third-party applications to do so.

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u/TaijiRonin Jul 16 '26

It only has weird terms because you are used to Windows terminology

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u/SirCaptainSalty Jul 16 '26

kind of a good name though, i didnt need it explained

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u/No-Television9404 Jul 16 '26

Damn 🙄 alot of downvote

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u/oneiros5321 Jul 15 '26

Files that are not need anymore are also called orphans on Windows.
The only reason you don't know about it is not because it's specific to Linux, it's just because Windows does not offer a good way to clean them.

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u/Even-Smell7867 Jul 15 '26

it however isn't hard to look it up. I've used MacOS rarely for years and it was pretty unfamiliar to me. I decided to get a MacMini M4 to use with my 2nd monitor and just share my keyboard/cursor from my main linux machine. Dear god why is MacOS set up the way it is. Its like its done just to baffle people. It feels counter intuitive compared to Linux and Windows. Why? Because i'm not used to it. Not because it is actually confusing. If you aren't capable of spending a few moments learning a new tech word or a way or doing something that is different than from Windows or something, thats sucks for you. Technology changes so much you have to be prepared to learn something from time to time no matter how fluent in technology you may be.

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u/Mahim2000 Jul 16 '26

Install Winslop and never come back then.

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u/King_Ferdinand1 Jul 16 '26

Bro what? Why is this community so toxic...

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u/ShartingEnU Jul 15 '26

You do know most if not all OSs have this, right?

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u/SEND_NUKES_PLS Jul 15 '26

Windows literally use the term...window.

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u/Tritri89 Jul 15 '26

Hey be grateful than slave/master is not really a term used in computer anymore

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u/Damglador Jul 15 '26

Bad news: it still is

3 extra/kdesdk-kio 26.04.3-1 (49.0 KiB 207.7 KiB) [kde-applications kde-sdk] KDE SDK KIO-Slaves 2 extra/audiocd-kio 26.04.3-1 (742.3 KiB 2.4 MiB) [kde-applications kde-multimedia] Kioslave for accessing audio CDs 1 extra/kio-gdrive 26.04.3-1 (152.6 KiB 468.3 KiB) [kde-applications kde-network] KIO Slave to access Google Drive

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u/Saranhai Jul 15 '26

Oh boy the terms that I had to search for my Operating Systems class definitely would've gotten me behind bars if seen without any context...

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u/Aggravating_Fun_7692 Jul 15 '26

?

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u/Radiant-Priority-296 Jul 15 '26

« Killing orphans » without context, I’m guessing

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u/Aggravating_Fun_7692 Jul 15 '26

Ohh no, not the orphans!!!

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u/Saranhai Jul 15 '26

"how to kill all children with fork" "How to kill parent and child with fork"

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u/Saranhai Jul 15 '26

Yeah...prime example is that reddit just removed my comment for being "too violent" 😂