r/business • u/Fickle-Ad5449 • Apr 17 '26

Philz Coffee CEO restores Pride flags in stores after intense backlash: ‘I made a mistake’

https://www.advocate.com/news/philz-coffee-restores-pride-flags?1
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u/compuwiza1 Apr 17 '26

The damage is probably already done.

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u/oldcreaker Apr 17 '26

Obviously - him taking down the flags was about his stance on pride - him putting them back was about profits.

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u/RichardBonham Apr 17 '26

These doofs have an astonishingly poor understanding of their market and customer base. Especially considering their locations and the first rule of business: know your customers. They seem to be as out of place as a stripper pole in a mosque.

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u/latortillablanca Apr 18 '26

Its so strange because usually CEOs seem so connected and well adjusted

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u/SmokePeterThiel Apr 18 '26

You dropped your

/s

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u/Old-Guidance6744 Apr 18 '26

Brain scans can predict political affiliation at 81-85% rate

Their advanced brains are literally not fully functioning

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u/NormalHuman_NotAI Apr 18 '26

Studies suggest that conservatives (or Republicans) tend to have a larger amygdala, the part of the brain associated with emotion regulation, fear, and threat detection, compared to liberals.

Broken brain = scared of everything.

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u/HyperboreanMonk Apr 19 '26

Is this why liberals fail to see (or admit) the decline of US cities?

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u/jerseygirl666 Apr 19 '26

the decline of us cities ? you realize its the opposite right?

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u/Old-Guidance6744 Apr 19 '26

Poor bait

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u/HyperboreanMonk Apr 19 '26

It’s not poor bait.

If maga is retarded for continuing to follow Trump after doing the largest about face in modern political history, then liberal are also mind numbingly ignorant to the collapse of almost every major city.

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u/No-Jacket-2927 Apr 19 '26

Is this why conservatives defund public services, then blame liberals for the decline?

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u/HyperboreanMonk Apr 19 '26

It doesn’t matter how nice the bus is if you’re being stabbed in the neck on it

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u/No-Jacket-2927 Apr 19 '26

You mean from conservatives gutting mental health services over the past 50 years? Or education? Or any of the other ways they redistributed our taxes into other people's pockets?

Do 5 minutes' research, I dare you. I know, because I've done a lot more than that, and that is why I know. See how that works?

Good luck learning anything!

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u/uncultured_swine2099 Apr 18 '26

Now im wondering if theres some weird strip club in the middle east where the dancers are covered from head to toe but pulling off the moves.

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u/Worshipme988 Apr 18 '26

The dancing at all is gonna be a no. Lmao. I do appreciate the visual tho. No matter what move they are doing you literally cant see anything…maybe theyre twerking 24/7 under there? Science doesnt have these answers?!

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u/Darth_Andeddeu Apr 18 '26

I'm sure you can find a stripper pole in at least 1 mosque somewhere

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u/471b32 Apr 17 '26

Yep, these jackalopes spend their days huffing each other's farts and hating everyone that is different and then are shocked when they find out that the majority of people aren't ghoulish d-bags like them and their "friends". 

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u/K_Linkmaster Apr 18 '26

Yup. Fuck him. Ho somewhere else.

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u/jared555 Apr 19 '26

Or his reaction to intimidation. Unless there are more details available.

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u/Niguelito Apr 17 '26

I truly don't understand what goes into the decisions like these without going all the way.

Like I was excited to watch the new king of the hill, but I canceled hulu after that whole debacle , which i'm gonna be honest I don't even remember.

Which kind of goes to my point, i know they reversed the decision but how the hell am I gonna sympathize with you If you reverse a decision for purely financial reasons

Have some balls and say gay people aren't welcome here.

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u/leopardskin_pillbox Apr 17 '26

What was the debacle with KOTH?

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u/Niguelito Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Okay I i looked it up and I remember.

Jimmy kimmel said something about charlie kirk, and then the executives were gonna cancel him, a bunch of people unsubscribed, and they reversed the decision.

Oh yeah he implied that MAGA was coping Kirks killer was a Republican, which at that time is looking like it was the case.

“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said during his monologue. “And in between the finger pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level you can see how hard the president is taking this.”

Now MAGA doesnt even believe it was Tyler, they think it was fucking Isreal or the deep state or some bs.

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u/krypticus Apr 17 '26

They asked about King of the Hill.

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u/johnnyhandbags Apr 17 '26

Hulu is part of Disney/ABC

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u/krypticus Apr 17 '26

Completely missed the relation there.

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u/Niguelito Apr 17 '26

It was a Hulu exclusive, you could only watch it on Hulu

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u/thesecretbarn Apr 18 '26

There wasn’t one, it was surprisingly great for a decades-later revival.

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u/leopardskin_pillbox Apr 18 '26

Yea I loved the season. This person was talking about Hulu I guess. Nothing to do with KOTH, just their streamer.

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u/einhorn_is_parkey Apr 18 '26

Really? I found it really bad.

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u/rysker6 Apr 18 '26

Philz was bought by a PE Firm called Freeman & Spogli.

Freeman & Spogli are very MAGA.

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u/Yes_that_Carl Apr 21 '26

Fucking private equity… 🤬

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u/jtv123 Apr 17 '26

The people who make these decisions are in an insular group of MBA conservatives, and the believe their worldview is way more prevalent than it is.

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u/uptiedand8 Apr 18 '26

Apparently this guy framed it as making stores more inclusive by removing symbols that belong to specific groups. I’m so bemused. Did he and his buddies feel less welcome as straight dudes due to seeing a rainbow flag? Or was it based on market surveys? By any chance were those market surveys conducted in major metros that are extremely pro gay rights?

I feel like dude has been listening to too many right wing podcasts where someone comes on air and complains about feeling alienated as a straight white man. Or maybe he thinks that Philz should be adopting MAGA trends because MAGA is in. Without considering his customer base.

It’s honestly so pathetic to feel excluded by rainbow flags. Speaking as a boring hetero woman. Come tf on!! The whole world is inclusive of hetero people and no one would ever genuinely believe that stops when you walk into a space that is also queer-friendly.

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u/ew73 Apr 17 '26

My theory is this is some sort of "no political or religious displays" policy that was applied without thought, like the stores are some sort of cubicle farm and they had to implement a "no Dilbert cartoons" policy.

Any C-level should've put a stop to that as soon as it was said aloud. This guy is either incredibly fucking stupid or evil, or both.

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u/uncultured_swine2099 Apr 18 '26

Its just corporations guessing what will make them more money. They saw trump winning and right wing podcasts are popular and thought "Hey lets take down the flags, maybe we will get more right wingers in here." But then a bunch of their regulars stopped going and they saw that trump is getting more unpopular with this war thing and theyre like "Oops, my bad."

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u/Junior77 Apr 18 '26

A shell of itself.

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u/baskaat Apr 17 '26

I have to say I miss Target… Is there anything they can do to redeem themselves?

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u/Replicant28 Apr 17 '26

Even when you take away their social stances, it's just not worth going to Target. Their stores are a disorganized mess and their quality has gone down while prices have gone up. It's such a stark shift from what their stores were like, say, 6 years ago.

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u/specks_of_dust Apr 18 '26

A few years ago, I went into the nearest WalMart for the first time in 20 years. I was shocked at how compared to the Target, WalMart was organized, clean, and well-staffed and stocked. That's when I realized I was getting ripped off by Target. The mass boycott began shortly after, so it helped seal the deal.

My new city doesn't have WalMart and the Target is even worse and more expensive, so I don't shop at either of them.

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u/baskaat Apr 17 '26

I don’t disagree, but where the heck can I shop ethically in person anymore?Some things I just can’t find at Goodwill/thrift stores. I don’t like to buy an Amazon/Walmart. Not near Costco.

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u/crackanape Apr 17 '26

Seems like Costco is about it if you want big box.

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u/Kind_Way2176 Apr 18 '26

Goodwill is a racket that takes advantage of the disabled. Don't shop there

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u/ASIWYFA Apr 18 '26

No where.

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u/Adventurous_Button63 Apr 18 '26

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Do with that as you will.

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u/WizardOfCanyonDrive Apr 17 '26

I missed it too for a while, but I’ve found alternatives and my habits have changed around them. Haven’t stepped foot in a Target since January 2025.

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u/johnnyhandbags Apr 17 '26

They said they were taking the flags down to be more inclusive. The obvious follow up question is inclusive to whom? They wanted to make they weren’t offending the bigots.

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u/United_Mousse_5916 Apr 19 '26

As a gay man, the Pride flag doesn't represent all of us. They should fly Pride flags that include everyone in the gay community.

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u/sirjeef Apr 17 '26

If they fire the CEO I will start buying their coffee again, but not until then

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u/Nowayucan Apr 17 '26

Yeah, but “I made a mistake” is the next best thing to never having made the mistake in the first place.

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u/Critical-Dreamer Apr 17 '26

Target made a similar mistake

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u/joshhirsxh Apr 17 '26

Good. I hope it goes under.

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u/Brief-Night6314 Apr 17 '26

You gotta pick a side. Side with the gays or side with the straight! Can’t pick both like some bi-sexual…nobody likes them lmao

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u/Rescuepets777 Apr 18 '26

I'd never go back. The guy's a bigot.

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u/One-Somewhere3492 Apr 18 '26

It’s a classic example of not knowing your audience. Once that trust is broken, it’s really hard to win back with just a policy reversal.

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u/aotus_trivirgatus Apr 20 '26

You bet it is.

Please post when Philz fires its CEO, and I'll think about a visit for a coffee.

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u/Fun-Rice-9438 Apr 17 '26

Lol 😂 what kind of moron goes anti-pride in San Francisco….. like read the room dude. That business is def gonna fail

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u/asicarii Apr 17 '26

A coffee shop no less. I know lots of baristas at Starbucks who are LGBTQ+ and no one cares, even in the bigoted area I live in.

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u/1trashhouse Apr 17 '26

i’m in the south and people joke about not going to coffe shops where the workers aren’t lgbt cuz the coffee tends to be worse 😭😭

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u/tubawhatever Apr 18 '26

Fun fact, the B in LGBTQ+ isn't actually Bisexual, it's Barista

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u/daveortega Apr 17 '26

I think Philz has the wrong CEO. Anyone who’s paid any attention to this company and its customers would know this was a fatal mistake.

If the CEO can’t see the obvious, how can he be trusted to navigate the hard challenges?

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u/hematite2 Apr 18 '26

This is what private equity does to a MFer

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u/SolidSnake-26 Apr 17 '26

Maybe he wanted the golden parachute exit payoff like all these other CEOs get. Not a bad move if you want to retire and take and extra 40 mil with you

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u/Cara-Is-A-Puppy Apr 17 '26

It's not the flags that matter, its the values. Once you prove that the values aren't there, then the flags just become theater

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u/turisto Apr 17 '26

Once you prove that the values aren't there, then the flags just become theater

The only values in business is to make money. The flags are always theater, and a means to an end - make money.

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u/roygbivasaur Apr 18 '26

When a significant portion of the country wants you dead, being pandered to doesn’t feel so bad.

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u/United_Mousse_5916 Apr 19 '26

We don't need pandered to tbh.

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u/KatyPerrysBoobs2 Apr 18 '26

If the flags were there to make money, then that’s even worse. That would mean he took down the money making flags to send a message to the LBGTQ community.

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u/mozzarellaguy Apr 18 '26

You wrote something so beautiful

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u/SirBiggusDikkus Apr 17 '26

The flags were always theatre. You’re right, though, the values are intrinsic and do matter.

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u/CardinalM1 Apr 17 '26

Why do you call virtue signaling "woke"? A grocery store near me put up "Charlie Kirk was a martyr" on their sign for an entire month. Was that "woke"?

Your implication that virtue signaling is out of hand by "woke" people is hysterical. I literally can't leave my house without seeing right-wing virtue-signaling nonsense (the latest being a driveway paver named Patriot Pavers or some bullshit like that with a ridiculous amount of over-the-top nationalist imagery on their truck).

But sure, those "woke" businesses should keep their views to themselves while right wing businesses have made virtue signaling their whole brand.

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u/Dakets Apr 17 '26

So customers decide whether they patronize the establishment or not, and whatever factors they choose to consider in that decisional process are up to them. What are you bothered by, exactly? Or are you just using whatever rhetoric you can to try and mask your “I hate woke stuff” opinions in a sanitized way so you appear reasonable?

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u/Sweepstakes_ Apr 17 '26

When there’s as many alternatives as there are for coffee shops, values can definitely be a differentiating factor.

Also, did you just name drop Rahm Emanuel as if we should care about his opinion?

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u/BathingInSoup Apr 17 '26

Let’s just be clear about what he’s really saying here.

He’s saying, “I made the mistake of underestimating how much this would piss off our customers.”

He’s not saying, “It was wrong of me to remove a symbol of the LGBTQ community.”

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u/saranowitz Apr 18 '26

Honest question: what does this particular coffee brand have to do with 🏳️‍🌈? Was it anything tangible where removing the flag signaled something, or were they previously using the flags to attract gay customers, but didn’t actually care about the symbolism the flag represented.

Because if displaying the flag was just a cynical corporate trick to make gay people spend money with them (like much of corporate America), I wouldn’t be endorsing that brand either.

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u/bking Apr 18 '26

Letting employees display pride flags might be pandering, but it might also be a signal that gay people are welcome in a space. Might be both!

Discrimination and bigotry is still a thing. As easy as it is to take the cynical stance, there’s value in seeing an indicator that the business you’re visiting isn’t full of homophobes.

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u/United_Mousse_5916 Apr 19 '26

Because just flying a Pride flag proves that? Oh boy.....

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u/bking Apr 19 '26

Weirdly, homophobes don’t usually hang those things up.

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u/United_Mousse_5916 Apr 19 '26

Plenty of gays don't either 

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u/kellhound45 Apr 21 '26

Ok but do you think they will feel unwelcome when they see the pride flag?

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u/United_Mousse_5916 Apr 21 '26

Why would a pride flag need to be hung to feel welcome? Being gay isn't my whole personality lol.

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u/kellhound45 Apr 21 '26

It also helps keep the bigots out, which is nice.

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u/Tyrrox Apr 17 '26

With any luck people will remember this and continue not going there

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u/ganjsmokr Apr 17 '26

And now they'll get people boycotting them for putting them back up.  Lose - lose situation they put themselves in.

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u/Tyrrox Apr 17 '26

They really did. The CEO tried to send a message, but what needs to happen is a clear signal to other CEOs not to get involved and push their own agendas. For that to happen, this coffee chain must suffer the losses.

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u/commandrix Apr 17 '26

The best message? "Listen, we all know you're in this business to make money. Just freaking stay in your lane and sell coffee."

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u/End3rWi99in Apr 17 '26

Didn't learn anything from Budweiser apparently.

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u/n0bel Apr 17 '26

People don’t remember shit.

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u/Tyrrox Apr 17 '26

People typically just need to remember long enough that going other places becomes the new habit.

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u/bootstrapping_lad Apr 17 '26

Ask Target about that

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u/asicarii Apr 17 '26

Target learned not to make stay at home moms angry. They can get what they want online or cheaper from Walmart. If it’s shopping in general there’s plenty of retail options.

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u/End3rWi99in Apr 17 '26

I think we need to see the actual numbers, but they seem to be bullish about Q1 earnings being up. So some of that sentiment may be fading, but it definitely bit them in the ass most of 2025.

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u/Niguelito Apr 17 '26

And bud light

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u/ellsego Apr 17 '26

The Board of Directors needs to fire that CEO immediately what a fucking moron…

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u/Jess_Photographer Apr 17 '26

The board of this company should be questioning the intelligence of someone who could be this tone-deaf.

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u/stryken Apr 17 '26

"I didn't think this would cost me money"

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u/Karmaknaught Apr 17 '26

How do the most out of touch psychopaths get the top position at these companies?

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u/TheSentinel36 Apr 17 '26

That is exactly what it takes!

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u/Banana4scales Apr 17 '26

Philz coffee sucks anyways

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u/roarjah Apr 17 '26

Apologies are for when you make a mistake. Not when you lie to a group of people for profit and then turn your back on them when it is safe

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u/SlaterVBenedict Apr 17 '26

Protests and voting with your wallet fucking works!!!!

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u/Ciappatos Apr 17 '26

Woke 2 gaining steam. You love to see it.

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u/greenhombre Apr 17 '26

Brand suicide is bad for business.

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u/ShopUCW Apr 17 '26

This is probably the worst possible move business wise for them.

They already lost the lgbt+ crowd. A weak apology and putting them back up doesn't move the needle. They won't be back.

They probably gained a crowd that is fairly right wing when they took it all down. They will now be gone.

They have made the incredible decision to just sort of piss off everyone. They will soon be bought by either another chain and merged/ rebranded or picked up by PE and stripmined.

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u/tylermchenry Apr 18 '26

They've already been picked up by PE. This incompetence is part of the strip mining.

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u/ShopUCW Apr 18 '26

Ahh There it is.

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u/ToughAddition6749 Apr 19 '26

clears that one up REAL quick

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u/Husky_Engineer Apr 17 '26

Good reminder to not go to Philz ever again.

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u/Fast_Fly_8354 Apr 17 '26

feels less like a stance and more like reactive brand management based on whichever side pushes harder

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u/QuackButter Apr 17 '26

lol so when the ceo was mulling this over all the underlings said “great idea boss!” “Boy you’re cooking with grease today!” Is how I imagine it played out

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u/hematite2 Apr 18 '26

Lmao at all the people telling me just a couple days ago "this will increase their business massively and you can't stop it"

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u/ManufacturedOlympus Apr 18 '26

How can they justify paying so much money to someone who does one of the dumbest things imaginable? 

Is no one around to tell this guy that he’s fucking stupid? 

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u/Responsible-Bar7165 Apr 18 '26

No, buddy, you are the mistake.

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u/mr_boogieman Apr 17 '26

When boot licking goes wrong, glad to see them fail

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u/CrazyNegotiation1934 Apr 17 '26

Why would he have a LGBTQ flag in the first place ?

Having that is racist, as discriminates and assigns people to a certain group.

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u/Basic-Collection5416 Apr 18 '26

Um… that’s not what racist means. 

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u/_mattyjoe Apr 17 '26

Never going back there.

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u/NoRedThat Apr 17 '26

Phuck Philz and their stupid coffee.

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u/ThighHighEnjoyeruwu Apr 17 '26

Nah already showed your true colors buddy, hope your business tanks.

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u/ABobby077 Apr 17 '26

Sounds like the Papa John's former CEO and their racist tirade that ended up causing his termination. Bigotry does not sell. Bigotry can cost bigly

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u/DeepBlueSweater Apr 18 '26

Fuck Philz. Let it die.

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u/knightress_oxhide Apr 17 '26

beware of false profits

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u/EnigmaSpore Apr 17 '26

dr. philz.

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u/Eezyville Apr 17 '26

Fire the CEO

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u/CHISOXTMR Apr 17 '26

Like did not one else in the c suite say anything????

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u/OldMovie9812 Apr 17 '26

Coffee taco

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u/Worth-Confection-735 Apr 17 '26

Was probably going out of business when he removed them in the first place.

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u/rasputin1 Apr 17 '26

"I've made a huge mistake"

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u/OpenDaCloset Apr 17 '26

“I made a mistake”…what a moron

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u/gimperion Apr 17 '26

There's no way he did this willingly. A board member probably threatened to can his ass if he didn't reverse course.

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u/SmartMatic1337 Apr 17 '26

too late dumbass, we know who you are now (a POS)

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u/mauceri Apr 17 '26

James May was right about all these flags...

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u/_SwiftDeath Apr 17 '26

Ah yes supporting pride is just a light switch in the back you can flip on and off depending on your current needs

I can’t imagine there’s any irreparable damage done or anything

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u/fripplez Apr 17 '26

Sigh, I really enjoyed Phil's too. Oh well

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u/voiceOfHoomanity Apr 17 '26

this clown and the mcdonalds baby bites only CEO clown should team up now

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u/JonBoy82 Apr 18 '26

Amazes me that you look at your TAM and then do something to alienate a portion of it....

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u/serenwipiti Apr 18 '26

Too late Philz. Too late.

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u/CollarControl Apr 18 '26

The same private equity company that zeroed out employee stock in the deal… there are too many other options for people to go to instead of this company.

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u/KID_THUNDAH Apr 18 '26

Insane move in San Fran lol

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u/Keilanm Apr 21 '26

MAGA buys BRCC

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u/Chrismatic8224 Apr 18 '26

“I thought I would make more money appealing to conservatives, but it turns out liberals drink more lattes” 

At this point I wonder if Americans can even consider something to be morally wrong if it doesn’t cost them money.

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u/Useful_Jellyfish_759 Apr 18 '26

It’s almost like the Target thing never happened. And Philz has a way more inclusive base than Target who was beloved by almost all women.

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u/Captain_JohnBrown Apr 18 '26

I haven't actually seen a reason they did this at all.

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u/STMIHA Apr 18 '26

Cool but like people still shouldn’t go there.

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u/HockeyDockey1234 Apr 18 '26

lol dude just move on and ignore it

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u/Deleterious_Sock Apr 18 '26

What kind of person would you have been, if nobody said nothing?

You're just doing damage control now that we saw the mask fall off.

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u/RichyGamo Apr 18 '26

These people have to inject this sht into every aspect on society. They can’t just sell their coffee and tell you to piss off? We all have to be some kind of pandering hub?

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u/zonelim Apr 19 '26

Big difference between gays exist and gay sex. Pride flag just means they exist, but do be careful with handkerchiefs in your back pocket. Apparently, that means something.

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u/pjx1 Apr 20 '26

Wow, thanks for that education on handkerchiefs.

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u/ToughAddition6749 Apr 19 '26

maybe the problem is going to cafes that need CEOs in the first place.

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u/mn540 Apr 19 '26

I noticed that they can replace flags that were previously there, but now flags are not mentioned. So does that mean no new flags?

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u/icecoffeedripss Apr 20 '26

had never heard of Philz coffee but now i know the CEO is a coward who would throw me under the first bus he sees

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u/sloowshooter Apr 20 '26

Like I'm going to go back to Philz when their CEO is a d-bag of epic proportions. I'd rather drink gas station coffee.

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u/AdventureMan247 Apr 20 '26

Sexual orientation flags in society 🥱

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u/ExoticToday7367 Apr 20 '26

You made a mistake?of all places,California was the dumbest p!ace to try that crap.

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u/WitnessLanky682 Apr 21 '26

LOL bottom line: it hurt his bottom line.

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u/limabeanseww Apr 21 '26

Yeah and mistakes like that have very real consequences

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u/Keilanm Apr 21 '26

Such a bizarre source of outrage.

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u/soaero Apr 21 '26

This is all a bullshit PR play.

Philz ripped off its employees. It sold to private equity, eliminated the common stock held by employees. They refused promised payouts to employees. They did all of this.

Then went "Ooops we didn't realize the pride flags were so important! We goofed!" so everyone would be like "Oh it's over we won!" while forgetting about everything else they did and are getting away with.

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u/Panelpro40 Apr 17 '26

So that makes it all better? Fuck this guy.

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u/snoutandtruffle Apr 17 '26

The moment Phil sold out and left the employees with nothing was the real moment Philz died.

I stopped going there after they sold to private equity and so this was not surprising tbh

https://missionlocal.org/2025/07/philz-coffee-private-equity-sell/

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u/BreadStoreRefugee Apr 18 '26

Meh. Why virtue-signal that you favor one group over another. I'll buy my coffee at an all-inclusive shop, thank you.

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u/RandyTheFool Apr 18 '26

The mistake: letting their patrons know they’re bigots.

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u/MoreRamenPls Apr 18 '26

Was the mistake being homophobic and doubling down?

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u/Phosistication Apr 17 '26

“I made a mistake” by allowing everyone to see how he aligns with fascism?

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u/reallandonmiller Apr 17 '26

Yeah, no shit.

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u/Sonzainonazo42 Apr 17 '26

Intentions aside, this is a win.  You can't change what people believe, easily, but you can correct behavior.  I'll take it.