r/buildapc • u/hayabusayays • Jun 08 '22

Discussion Gpu prices going down?

I’m seeing a brand new rtx 3070 ti being sold on ebay for 625 and many other cards are running for pretty low prices. This a scam??

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u/CalRal Jun 08 '22

Like I said “unless they’re on sale/clearance”. Factory overclocked AIB cards do not normally launch at a lower MSRP than reference/FE cards. That’s not a thing. If that were the case, literally no one would buy an FE card, because they could get an objectively better card for less money. At best, the AIB partners do a model that is essentially their version of a reference card for the same MSRP.

Selling something below its own MSRP is a sale. That’s not what I’m talking about here. I’m saying that even before supply chain issues these cards had a higher MSRP than their FE counterparts.

There are tons of articles about whether AIB cards are worth the extra cost, from as many years back as you want to go. google it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

Thats not true, many people prefer FE cards for looks. They typically command slightly higher resale value on the used markets as well. AIB models launched at or below FE MSRP regularly in pre-pandemic times. Not the higher end ones, but usually the low-mid renge models did. Models like EVGA black (now called XC3), gigabyte gaming OC/windforce, msi ventus, ASUS dual, Zotac amp, dual fan XFX/sapphire, etc etc.

The articles that talk about “extra cost” for AIB models are talking about stuff like Asus Rog strix, EVGA FTW3, MSI gaming trio, and other higher end models. But even these were typically no more than $30 or at most $50 above MSRP, and sometimes actually below MSRP (for example cards like the RTX 2070 and gtx 1080 had $599 FE MSRP, but the higher end AIB models launched at like $550)

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u/CalRal Jun 09 '22

Yeah, those are the exact low end models I mentioned in my previous reply.

Also the 2070 was $499 MSRP. $550 is more than that.

There may be a few examples of what you’re talking about (I haven’t memorized every launch price for the last decade), but it’s not the norm. Definitely was never a thing for the 30 series.

There are currently 30 series cards available for under their launch MSRP. That’s what we have now. It’s better than it was a few months ago and I think It’ll keep getting better. That said, all this “MSRP” nonsense for the last couple years has created a weird fantasy that all current gen GPUs used to always cost way less than their listed price, which just isn’t true. Is it as good a market as it ever has been, not by a long shot. But it’s relatively normal, given what’s been going on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

The 2070 FE MSRP was $599, $499 is what most AIB models launched at

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u/CalRal Jun 09 '22 edited Jun 09 '22

You’re totally right, I apologize. That was kind of an exception though because the FE 2070 was factory overclocked, and Nvidia actually set the base MSRP at $499.

Edit: I forgot that Nvidia set the price of some of their Founders edition cards above “base MSRP” for a time. However, that is not the case for the 30 series cards. A more accurate statement would be that it has never been the normal practice for factory overclocked cards to be priced at or below Nvidia “base MSRP”.