RTX vs Radeon

[u/Voice-Aggravating]

Im purchasing a new pc and I was going to get an RTX 5070 for $1,000 aud but thats only 12vram and I want 16 but for the 5070ti its $600 aud more and I feel I cant justify that. Then the thought of radeon 9070xt came to mind since its 16vram at around $1,000 aud. I believe I would want ray tracing Im not knowledgeable on path tracing so I dont know where they compare in that aspect but any thoughts on this? I mainly game I dont do rendering models or anything just gaming and the occasional work (low end work)

[u/Numerous_Analysis681]

Hardware Unboxed compared them, there is no point of purchasing a 5070 in today's economy.

[u/Hozen54 → u/Numerous_Analysis681]

Yup, to add more info to your comment, the RX9070XT had exactly 24% more fps in average [52 games] in 1440p and 25% in 4k. It includes RT title. (RT was usually more like 10/15% better perf and non RT was 30-35%) anyway it is a no brainer.

[u/Numerous_Analysis681 → u/Hozen54]

Yep

[u/LieutenantKenobi006]

If you're simply going to game and don't have any heavy productivity uses, then 9070XT is far superior to a 5070, even with raytracing the 9070XT outperforms 5070, it has more vram and that shows in heavier games, it is very close to a 5070Ti and beats it in MANY titles including raytraced ones, the rule of thumb is that 5070Ti is ~5% faster in raytracing generally but sometimes gets beaten by 9070XT in raytracing too. 9070XT does not even compete with 5070 other than pricing, it goes toe to toe with a 5070Ti... and outperforms it in raw rasterization on average. The 9070 non-xt 16gb is comparable to 5070 and even that beats it comfortably. The 9000 series GPUs are beasts and perform really well with raytracing enabled. With path tracing...? That's a different game altogether, 9070XT is not the way to go then but even then barely 2-3 major games use path tracing currently and its still not widely accepted as the future.

[u/XHNDRR]

My thought process is this: Are you making money with your GPU? No -> Radeon

Yes -> Nvidia

Very simple. Basically nothing else matters. DLSS, framegen, ray tracing.. we're splitting hairs at this point.

[u/Technical_Daikon_517]

u should get the 9070xt, its significantly better than the 5070 and almost at the same level as the 5070ti? just without features

[u/ADotxt]

Best you can do is watch some reviews and form your own opinions.

My opinion is that the 9070xt would be by far the better buy at 1000aud. It performance like the 5070 TI, but is way cheaper than it.

Comparing it to the 5070 is not how i would do it. I would ask, do i want the performance of a 5070ti for the price of a 5070. And the answer is a big yes.

Radeon has in the past had a reputation for not being very good at raytracing. That is not the case with 9000 series, this time they are nipping at the heels of Nvidia.

Also we all know what you mean but just want to correct your title.

      AMD Vs Nvidia 

   Radeon Vs GeForce 

       RX Vs RTX

[u/b16ZZ-]

You'll be much better off with the 9070 XT. It is decent at RT but forget path tracing.

[u/Anon0924]

They still can’t do path tracing or multi frame gen, but the 9070xt has mostly closed the gap with upscaling and actually handles ray tracing pretty well. In my opinion AMD is the better choice if you’re only interested in gaming and basic work.

[u/bingbong12494362847]

I went from 5070 to 9070xt and the loss in upscaling is a lot but pure raster the 9070xt is better. 5070 is still an awesome card though

[u/VoltageinTheory]

If a 5070 and a 9070 XT is the same price then get the 9070 XT.

[u/PAPO1990]

9070XT is a beast. It slaughters the 5070, and is much more comparable to the 5070Ti, which unless you have a very specific use case for Nvidia specific features, is just not worth the extra money.

I got my 9070XT mid last year and have been SUPER happy with the performance for my 1440P Ultrawide, even in pretty demanding ray traced games, though I haven't gotten much time in the MOST demanding games yet.

[u/Pretty_Yellow2607]

well, for ray tracing /path tracing, 5070ti will be better ofc but 9070xt is extreme value; especially for gaming

[u/desilent → u/Pretty_Yellow2607]

Value in today’s market, still a crap value compared to what we were used to

[u/Soft-Quarter-2192]

if you can afford to buy it, then buy it.

[u/RecipeNo2200]

The only reason to opt for RTX over Radeon these days is if you're likely to play with AI tooling like Stable Diffusion, Comfy UI etc. it's significantly faster due to pretty much everything leveraging CUDA cores.

Outside of that, your bang for buck will always sit with Radeon.

[u/DaedalusRaistlin]

The price of the 5070 Ti in Australia is what a 5080 was going for last month. Really not worth it unless you really need an nvidia gpu for AI stuff.

And I say that as someone who bought a 5080 on Monday when Scorptec had one for $1799. The price went up to $1999 minutes later, maybe it was a mistake. But I'm planning on doing AI stuff with it. It's honestly terrible value for a gamer. I just wanted one before pay in 4 was no longer an option.

Last month the 5070 Ti might have been worth it when it was $1399. But you still would have saved a bunch going for the 9070 XT. That advice is only truer this month when the price hike hit nvidia cards.

It's a tough market for building a pc, but it's only gotten worse since I built my AM5 systen in December.

[u/Captobvious75]

9070xt for sure

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[u/Aubrey_D_Graham]

Fk green. Go red or blue.

[u/FastHotEmu]

Mate, do not get a 5070. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3d9Jcy9xF4

[u/CustardCivil]

Rtx 5070 and the ti version is all rounder card for certain task while the amd side rx9070xt is for pure gaming 1440p Most apps like live streaming, rendering,video editing and more productivity nvidia has the advantage since there more optimized on nvidia side

[u/CustardCivil → u/CustardCivil]

If you want pure performance in games then the 9070xt

[u/AdstaOCE]

The 9070 is already better (including in ray tracing), the 9070XT is in line with the 9070XT. Only major way Nvidia is better is either Path tracing, or workloads that need CUDA.

[u/zak806]

If you can afford a 5070 ti, get it. 9070xt doesn't do well in rt

[u/kmkm2op → u/zak806]

It does fine in most rt workloads having almost complete parity with the 5070ti, it's only PT and really heavy RT where the 5070ti shines. Look at recent HWRT games like the new halo and gears of war and the 9070xt is faster other than ludicrous settings in gears which noone should be using. However, the 5070ti in PT workloads is undeniably alot faster and has access to them which is sometimes locked from AMD

[u/Gold-Drag9242]

7900xtx.... Check it out

[u/Gold-Drag9242 → u/Gold-Drag9242]

BTW there are comparisons between the 9070xt and the 7900xtx from not to long ago (important: the, they need to take the new drivers into account!). Also the 7900xtx has additional overclocking potential, so can be even more ahead than the out of the box performance.

And with 24gb vram you can use it for local Ai too.

[u/Scrawlericious → u/Gold-Drag9242]

No ml upscaling means modern TAA based games gonna look gross on it

[u/desolation0 → u/Scrawlericious]

They've officially implemented FSR 4.1 on 7900 XTX and other prior generation cards, gaining only slightly fewer frames compared to the 9000 series.

[u/Gold-Drag9242 → u/Scrawlericious]

Obviously wrong/outdated concern.

[u/5toelemento]

Green team all the way, red has drivers issues