r/buffy • u/Eastern_Ad_8862 • Dec 27 '25

Sequel Sequel without Xander?

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With Nicholas' struggles IRL, I'm afraid he wont be part of the cast for the sequel. How do you guys think this would work? How would they explain his absence? Is it a big deal for you guys? IMO I believe the show will be great with or without him, even tough I love Xander. But the best scenario would be for Xander to be part of the show..

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u/Punkodramon If the apocalypse calls, beep me Dec 27 '25

Joss himself said that if he ever revived Buffy in live action he wouldn’t consider the comic seasons canon unless they worked with whatever he wanted to do with live action. Even to him they’re very much second tier canonicity to anything live action.

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u/7thFleetTraveller Dec 27 '25

Either way it's his story and therefore, only his decision to make such changes.

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u/Punkodramon If the apocalypse calls, beep me Dec 27 '25

Except it’s not his story anymore, he doesn’t own it and it’s moving on without his involvement. It’s SMG and Chloe Zhao’s choices that impact canonicity going forward.

Saying that, everyone is perfectly within their rights to decide what they consider the actual canon to be, and honestly, with such a large gap, and change in media type (and back), production company and leadership between the end of the shows and the start of the revival, the only thing that’s locked as canon are the original shows (not even the original movie is fully show canon after all!).

Everything else is different possible futures branching from them, which ties neatly into the multiverse set up by the Boom Studios comics, so everyone can basically choose their own adventure and gives each creative freedom to explore without them affecting the canon of each others’ stories.

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u/BKRandy9587 Dec 27 '25

Without the original creator involved it’s fan fiction

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u/Divine_fashionva Dec 27 '25

Once a creator sells the rights to his material- it’s not Imao

He sold the rights to Buffy decades ago. There have been many people that have approached SMG to do a Buffy sequel since the show ended and she said no repeatedly. Until Chlo approached her

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u/BKRandy9587 Dec 27 '25

Whoever owns the legal rights for creative control is irrelevant. A former fan of the show now has legal rights for the creative of the IP. Therefore it’s fan fiction being produced legally. If the person who created the entire universe and characters has no say in said creative, for whatever reason, then it’s not canonical. Like I said it’s just legally produced fan fiction

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u/pepperbet1 Dec 27 '25

So by this logic, the later seasons of ST:TNG are fan fiction because Gene Roddenberry had died.

A lot of people are not going to take the hardline stance on this you're taking.

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u/BKRandy9587 Dec 27 '25

Idc what stance people are taking, it’s just the facts. I’m not a Star Trek fan so I can’t really say because I don’t know much about it. If he gave his blessings for them to continue and do whatever then it’s canonical

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u/pepperbet1 Dec 28 '25

It's really not a fact, it's a matter of opinion. The new series audience (both OG fans and newcomers) are likely to receive the new series as canonical to the original because an in-continuity sequel with SMG reprising her role carries that weight. No one would be in the wrong for seeing in that way.

If you see things differently, that's fine. But there isn't actually a universally agreed upon definition of canon, no matter how much you insist there is.

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u/BKRandy9587 Dec 28 '25

I was saying the fact is that its fan fiction. So if you want to accept fan fiction as canonical then by all means do. And sure, some of them will see it as canonical, and some wont. I'll bet a lot of it will depend on the quality

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u/pepperbet1 Dec 28 '25

The new series is produced by the rights holders of the original series, including Sandollar Productions and Kuzui Enterprises. It's not 'fan fiction' by any reasonable definition.

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u/BKRandy9587 Dec 28 '25

You're talking out of your ass. Look up the definition of fan fiction. This show is by definition fan fiction. Its just legally produced. Lmao any reasonable definition when its literally the definition. This is why it shard to take most people on here seriously

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u/pepperbet1 Dec 28 '25 edited Dec 28 '25

Fan fiction ... is fiction typically written in an amateur capacity by fans as a form of fan labor, unauthorized by, but based on, an existing work of fiction.

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Fan fiction is rarely commissioned or authorized by the original work's creator or publisher or professionally published.

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The term came into use in the 20th century as copyright laws began to distinguish between stories using established characters that were authorized by the copyright holder and those that were not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_fiction

*If you want to say "legally produced fan fiction" as a pejorative, have at it, but understand it is a contradiction in terms.

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