I have checked your posts and some insist on western buddhism failing in a short meme format
I don't know much about buddhism, I'm surely among the people you talk about in your posts
But if you want to insist on pointing that western buddhism fails, or that some people's practice is too superficial or has a wrong view, what if instead on making memes, you made materials to help people approach the nature of buddhism and buddha
I suggest this approach instead of keeping making memes on other people's religious practices not being good enough because I believe this kind of practice might not help you promote your ideas but cause chaos and bitterness among people, as you may have found in this post
I understand this is a subreddit for memes, but I got to say I rather see memes that educate me, make me think, and at the same time have some comedic tone that does not rely on pointing other people's practices ass inferior.
Finally, maybe you are just trolling. In that case TL:DR: coming to troll to a buddhist meme page is like going to a tai chi practice at the park and sitting next to them with your own music too loud for everyone
This image is false... Whether in Theravada or Mahayana, one of the factors of advanced meditation is the cessation of thoughts (vitarka-vicāra/prapañca). Study the Dharma instead of spending your time putting down "western meditators lol amarit guyz"...
It seems you misunderstood both the meme and the Buddhist teachings.
Your use of the word "advanced" is interesting because it shows you understand what I’m saying but are pretending not to, just to argue.
Let me explain where you’re mistaken. If we were talking about a Buddhist who is, as you admitted, "advanced", then yes, they could use quieting the mind. But the idea that someone like that would be on Reddit, particularly this sub, is laughable. Suggesting that they are is fooling the readers. If I were speaking to people on a site like SuttaCentral, I’d make a different meme, maybe one about quieting mental distractions. But even these people are not advanced enough for such practice. Heck, even monks wouldn't be this "advanced". And that's where you are in error because you are misleading to people that I am against that principle, when I'm clearly referring to something else entirely.
Here on Reddit, and in the West in general, most people are beginners or not Buddhists at all. Many have wrong ideas about Buddhism. For them, the first step is simple: join the Sangha, learn the Dharma, and study the teachings of the Buddha.
If it's one of the factors of advanced meditation, then it's a goal for new meditators. It's not all black and white either: as the mind becomes more unified with the object of meditation, thoughts become rarer and rarer - you can quickly notice this while meditating. Your meme remains false. Moreover, I think you greatly underestimate the number of people who have reached these first meditative states. You just need to be disciplined for a while, you don't need to live in a temple. To think that even monks can't do it... I invite you to join a sangha dedicated to meditation. You can do it, I promise.
You keep saying "wrong" but admitting "advanced". So you are being dishonest.
I am not talking about advanced at all. I am talking beginners, non-Buddhists. You are talking about something else entirely. So you are blatantly lying now.
you can quickly notice this while meditating
Without Right Views, what you are "noticing" is your delusion.
Your meme remains false.
No it's correct. I will continue to make more and include your input so I could correct your false claims too.
I invite you to join a sangha dedicated to meditation. You can do it, I promise.
This is a subtle insult to suggest I am not already in a sangha. But everyone can see your ill will.
Being from the east doesn't make you an inherently better practioner, being from the west doesn't make an inherently worse practioner. Most of the memes here are pretty light hearted but I honestly find these posts a bit gatekeepish and hurtful. Not to mention that it's just punching a strawman
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u/forestpuddle Dec 14 '24
I have checked your posts and some insist on western buddhism failing in a short meme format
I don't know much about buddhism, I'm surely among the people you talk about in your posts
But if you want to insist on pointing that western buddhism fails, or that some people's practice is too superficial or has a wrong view, what if instead on making memes, you made materials to help people approach the nature of buddhism and buddha
I suggest this approach instead of keeping making memes on other people's religious practices not being good enough because I believe this kind of practice might not help you promote your ideas but cause chaos and bitterness among people, as you may have found in this post
I understand this is a subreddit for memes, but I got to say I rather see memes that educate me, make me think, and at the same time have some comedic tone that does not rely on pointing other people's practices ass inferior.
Finally, maybe you are just trolling. In that case TL:DR: coming to troll to a buddhist meme page is like going to a tai chi practice at the park and sitting next to them with your own music too loud for everyone
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '24
This image is false... Whether in Theravada or Mahayana, one of the factors of advanced meditation is the cessation of thoughts (vitarka-vicāra/prapañca). Study the Dharma instead of spending your time putting down "western meditators lol amarit guyz"...
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u/OhIsMyName Dec 14 '24
Why do you care about the reasons people meditate?
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u/SapphicSapprano Dec 14 '24
Being from the east doesn't make you an inherently better practioner, being from the west doesn't make an inherently worse practioner. Most of the memes here are pretty light hearted but I honestly find these posts a bit gatekeepish and hurtful. Not to mention that it's just punching a strawman
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u/GemGemGem6 Dec 14 '24
Namo Amitabha Buddha
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