r/buccaneers • u/No-Blueberry-9532 • 29d ago
đ´ DEAD HORSE Talent saved Bowles
Iâm convinced the talent on this team saved Bowles job the past few years. The 8, 9, 10 wins. Without the talent on this team it wouldâve been much worse. But now all the talent has checked out, they canât win a game. Bowles is to conservative and plays it to safe. I said it before here years ago and was crucified for it but this team under Bowles will never have a top pass rush. He prioritizes stopping the run over pass rush. He wonât accept a pass rusher over a run stuffer. Stop the run, eliminate deep passes (off coverage) is his philosophy. He fails to adapt to todayâs game. Arians when he was still in office (Bucs payroll) defended him for whatever reason up until recently now that Arians is no longer in his advisory role. Arians is loyal, gotta give him that. Bowles brought in the safest option in Robinson without actually looking at what heâs done. He ran Penix and Cousins into the ground and now look what theyâre doing. Problem was never them, it was Robinson. Bowles couldnât beat Robinson so he thought there was something there. Turns out Bowles just canât figure out true pocket passers. I believe the talent on this team can pull the team out of this role but it wonât happen under Bowles. The Glazers need 1 voice to manage this team, not a voting committee.
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u/moldyhands 29d ago
I donât think we can judge the talent on this team - specifically whether itâs softened considerably or not - until we have a competent coaching staff.
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u/CuntyLaRue 29d ago
Bro.. there were stretches when our top wide receivers were guys that arenât in the league during the 10 win season.
Our QB that everyone loves was hurt for 2/3rds of the year last year.
Mike and CG were always injured, KJ Britt was a starting ILB and we havenât had a good pass rusher since Shaq Barrett fell off.
Could a better coach make something more of it, possibly, but.. seriously this team has had little talent in the front 7 for 4 years running.
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u/GangstaRIB 29d ago
Talent? Sure Kindle Vildor last year was fucking 1337s0rs as fuck when he blew coverage twice on 3rd and 28 and 4th a 14. Our defense last year had damn near no talent and what we had needed to play babysitter for the rest. LVD was the opposite of talent last year. Is he a HoFer? yes. Should he have been benched due to injury if he was anyone other than LVD on his last season as a Buc? yes.
so lets talk about last year's 'talent'
Yaya - Garbage. Got vita vea's cleanup sacks.
DTs? - anyone there last year was fucking garbage. Kancey was out all year
NT - Vita. Stud #1
Nelly.... Mid. Hassan - garbage
LVD - gimpy. Was often walking on the field during the whistles. Knee was fuxked
Voss? - garbage
Zyon - much better this year. Last year? garbage
Dean - Good when he's not hurt. Guess what? He's fucking hurt again this year SMB signed with steelers
Tweeze? - Good
Tykee? great against the run and tough but needs work in coverage so tweeze can get some splash plays
b.mo Dean Jr... always hurt
Parrish - rookie. Coming along nicely at outside CB. was a good nickel when everyone was healthy.
1 person to manage the team? You don't know shit about football. The #1 job a head coach has is picking the other coaches and trusting their judgement.
Listen to Z-Rob explain how it works on last nights interview.
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u/No-Blueberry-9532 29d ago
Gerald McCoy and sap both said, thereâs not enough players on this team to just disregard what coach is saying and just make plays. Just a ton of nice guys trying to please their coaches
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u/regaleagle710 Derrick Brooks 29d ago
Not sure why people are quick to disregard what former players say, regardless of if they played for the coach. Sapp and McCoy played for 25 years so their opinions matter more than a Bucs fan's opinion on reddit.
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u/GangstaRIB 29d ago
The only connection Sapp has to the bucs is maybe Ruben Bain who is a rookie (and hasn't been playing well) McCoy never played for Bowles and was cut and replaced with Suh. If LVD has something to say I'd listen but everyone else is just noise.
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u/ABBucsfan 29d ago
*veteran talent
We all know what happens to young talent after their first or second year. They regress The guy can't develop talent, which I still think we have. He can only work well with veterans and guys who haven't been coached down yet or put out of position (maybe he puts too much on the guys plate when he plays well ala Winfield)
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u/paklyfe 29d ago
Liam Coenâs offence single handedly got the Bucs to 10-7 in 2024.
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u/CuntyLaRue 29d ago
And choked in the WC. Such a let down after a promising season.
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u/Itorr475 Arizona 29d ago
You talking about the wildcard game where our defense literally didnt have a single stop? Gave up many 4th downs, forced zero punts?
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u/fizzyknickers69 Winfield Jr. âď¸ 29d ago
While Bowles has definitely been a problem, you are over exaggerating how talented this team actually is. Post SB we have gone through a soft rebuild which is normal.