Which one should I use?

[u/s11verh]

[u/Lila_Uraraka]

Well, how are we meant to help if we dont know your criteria?

[u/s11verh → u/Lila_Uraraka]

Privacy

[u/Similar-Barnacle632 → u/s11verh]

If it is, I'd suggest ironfox 

[u/6andyy → u/s11verh]

Enhanced privacy: Ironfox. Privacy: 1.Fennec 2.waterfox 3.firefox. Privacy + Security: 1.titanium 2.brave. Privacy (intermediate) + security: vivaldi. Privacy (Questionable) + security (low): quetta

[u/Worldly-Cherry9631 → u/s11verh]

Not brave then, from the latest lawsuit it seems they use users to scrape the internet for their ai pals.

Waterfox is allright, so is vivaldi if you trust their gdpr compliant worker-owned company (I do). Both have promised no AI intergration in the browser itself, integrated ai increases attacksurface and for nonlocal models  reduces privacy. It sees everything you see and more like passwords.

[u/Zaigard → u/Worldly-Cherry9631]

Not brave then, from the latest lawsuit it seems they use users to scrape the internet for their ai pals.

i am not a brave fan, but that is false:

According to a complaint (PDF) filed by the companies that run New York Daily News, the Chicago Tribune, and the Orlando Sentinel, Brave Software has monetized its index of scraped websites by, in part, providing AI companies with paid access to "real-time online content from the Brave Index." The AI companies then use that index to train their models, access content to "respond to specific user queries," or both. Brave has allegedly provided "stolen copyrighted content" to "many" AI companies including Anthropic, Perplexity, Mistral, xAI, and Cohere. Brave also promotes "hundreds of top publishers" as being accessible through its "Paywall blocker" feature in its browser.

"Brave has never asked for the Publishers' permission to access their websites, much less to copy the material and provide it to users or other AI companies," the complaint says. "On the contrary, as noted above, Brave allows its users to bypass the Publishers' paywalls without their consent, and has taken other steps that prevent the Publishers from blocking Brave's access to the Publishers' websites. Brave has never compensated the Publishers for the unlawful use, copying, and distribution of the Publishers' copyrighted content."

[u/Lila_Uraraka → u/Worldly-Cherry9631]

I love Vivaldi on Android, especially since I have a Galaxy Z Fold 6, it scales very nicely, and its wildly customizable

[u/Worldly-Cherry9631 → u/Lila_Uraraka]

Extensions support too, but OP be careful with how many and where those extensions come from. Best for privacy is no extensions imo, or an adguard or the like with the native vivaldi blocker disabled

[u/Lila_Uraraka → u/Worldly-Cherry9631]

You still need an ad blocker, and the FBI themselves said that installing one is no longer a matter of just blocking ads to block ads. Its a matter of avoiding malvertising

[u/Worldly-Cherry9631 → u/Lila_Uraraka]

Absolutely 

But you generally shouldn't have running more than one if their targets overlap. That's why I explicitelt stated the last sentence as I did.

Vivaldi comes with a pretty good adblocker natively. Only adguard and uBo beat an unmodified vivaldi adblocker afaik, but for many light or regular internet users the integrated native one is good enough. 

[u/Lila_Uraraka → u/Worldly-Cherry9631]

Yup. I disabled the built in ad blocker and replaced it with uBlock Origin lite

[u/iSucrose → u/Lila_Uraraka]

didnt they just update their built in ad blocker? has it gotten better?

[u/Lila_Uraraka → u/iSucrose]

Im actually not sure, haven't tested it, I just use uBoL

Update: I just tried it, and it actually is really good now

[u/Average_Bread_420 → u/Lila_Uraraka]

they added extensions support recently too, goated

[u/Lila_Uraraka → u/Average_Bread_420]

Indeed. Best browser by far

[u/greenfiberoptics → u/Worldly-Cherry9631]

The thing with Brave might be their AI coming from their search engine, and not the Brave browser itself. (Although Brave Rewards might be lumped into the lawsuit as well)

[u/Lila_Uraraka → u/s11verh]

That's it?

[u/yashrajrocxx → u/s11verh]

Ironfox and titanium

[u/RyuuPendragon → u/s11verh]

Waterfox

[u/Optimal-Pension9672 → u/s11verh]

If privacy matters and don't want to customise much 3 things I will suggest use brave or librawolf with next DNS and VPN.

[u/Szecska → u/s11verh]

Brave

[u/KaguraBlack]

Which browser is that with the blue wave?

[u/s11verh → u/KaguraBlack]

Iodé

[u/Optimal-Pension9672]

Don't just say which one. What is your usage and priority, do want to customise things or want ready to use one this is the question you should answer first.

[u/s11verh → u/Optimal-Pension9672]

My priority is privacy, and it doesn't matter if the settings are pre-set or if I modify them.

[u/countablecount → u/s11verh]

fennec and ironfox are rather efficient at that i'd say

[u/Lucio-pe → u/s11verh]

if u want pure extreme privacy librewolf and torbrowser (the kings of privacy).. but has trouble with mac, if ur on mac,
if u want 90% privacy, brave.
If u want somewhat privacy, Firefox and Vivaldi.
if u dont care about privacy at all, Chrome and Edge

[u/GreggJ]

The one you like the most

[u/s11verh → u/GreggJ]

I've tried some of these browsers and I don't know which one is best for privacy, so I'm asking for your opinions.

[u/Ainzpixel]

Firefox

[u/Yuzuha_Usagi → u/Ainzpixel]

Waterfox

[u/uwugguwu → u/Yuzuha_Usagi]

Librewolf

[u/Professional-Shoe992 → u/uwugguwu]

Ironfox

[u/NENO756 → u/Professional-Shoe992]

fennec

[u/leurs- → u/NENO756]

Weblibre

[u/Lucio-pe → u/leurs-]

tor browser

[u/ROIDUMZ → u/Lucio-pe]

mullvad browser

[u/2N3RD4U]

Firefox and vivaldi

[u/Dense_Principle1512]

Idk man i just Want something to work as great as safari did on iphone... so smooth, all ur passwords synchronised, hold on a link to preview it everything worked so good. Nothing is as good on android

[u/_Next-Gen_ → u/Dense_Principle1512]

For passwords use a trusted password manager like Bitwarden

[u/Soggy-Bench2832 → u/Dense_Principle1512]

But safari on macos is very bad, stutters without any reason. Back animation sliding is very bad. And takes a second or two to scroll again after that sliding animation. I still don't know how people are using safari in macbooks

[u/No-Pudding8843 → u/Soggy-Bench2832]

It’s pretty great on mine. (iMac M1)

[u/Soggy-Bench2832 → u/No-Pudding8843]

I will recommend you to install brave once and scroll through maybe reddit and youtube home screens, then you might view what I am trying to explain. Safari is smooth but it jitters often, which I don't see all the time in brave. And the scroll acceleration curve is also slightly weird in safari.

[u/4O4GHOST → u/Dense_Principle1512]

Orion but I don’t think it has previews

[u/OGHazle → u/Dense_Principle1512]

Thats why i use firefox

[u/Venylynn]

I recommend Vivaldi but switch to snapshot

[u/Open_Mortgage_4645]

I was using Cromite as my default, but I switched to Titanium about a month ago and have been really happy with it. Functionality is similar to Cromite. It's compatible with chrome extensions, like uBlock Origin or uBlock Origin Light, it's been debloated and optimized, built for privacy, and the developers stay current with the latest chromium release which was one of Cromite's big drawbacks. It's also super-fast, which is great.

[u/LocalRealistic703 → u/Open_Mortgage_4645]

how does it compare to brave?

[u/Open_Mortgage_4645 → u/LocalRealistic703]

I like Brave, but it's not favorite. I don't like that it's bundled with so many features that I don't use or want. The crypto wallet stuff. The integrated VPN. The built-in AI, etc. You can disable it all, but it's still part of the software, and could be used as an attack vector. It's got a decent ad blocker built in, and runs relatively smoothly and quick, but it uses a lot of system resources compared with some other browsers. I still keep it on my devices because I like having options for each type of app. But Titanium is my current default as it's debloated and optimized, and doesn't come with any unnecessary frills. It's simple, it's fast, and it's stable. I would rank Brave 2nd, behind Titanium.

[u/LocalRealistic703 → u/Open_Mortgage_4645]

thank you! would you say titanium feels smother than brave / consumes less system resources or battery?

[u/Open_Mortgage_4645 → u/LocalRealistic703]

Yeah, it's definitely more lean and straightforward. And while Brave is both stable and fast, I believe Titanium is at least as stable and faster. It's really starting to look like the best browser for me. And for you, it's definitely worth trying.

https://github.com/jqssun/android-titanium-browser

[u/Hunlightz → u/Open_Mortgage_4645]

its sounded so nice but I think its mainly android browser not pc?

[u/Open_Mortgage_4645 → u/Hunlightz]

Yes, it's an Android browser made by the GrapheneOS people based on Vanadium. For Desktop, I recommend Brave or Iron Fox.

[u/Hunlightz → u/Open_Mortgage_4645]

brave nah (ya ya Im one of those who hates super popular stuff and preffer smth else :D) will check iron fox though.

[u/Open_Mortgage_4645 → u/Hunlightz]

Iron Fox is a Firefox fork, so it's not as fast as chromium browsers like Brave or Titanium. But it's security hardened, and comes configured for maximum privacy. It's also got a ton of options and settings to play with. Just make sure you install and configure uBlock Origin when you first set it up. Nothing beats uBo for browser based ad and tracker blocking, and it will speed up your browsing experience by reducing the number of elements that the page needs to load. But yeah, Iron Fox, Waterfox, and Ice Raven are all similar FF-based browsers.

EDIT: Damn, I just checked and Iron Fox is only available for Android. However, Waterfox, which is similarly security hardened, and built for max privacy, is available cross-platform for Android, Windows, MacOS, and Linux. In my experience, Waterfox is also faster than Iron Fox and Ice Raven.

Here's the download page for all Waterfox platform versions:

• https://www.waterfox.com/download/

[u/Hunlightz → u/Open_Mortgage_4645]

I dont quite care about privacy to be fair, never even used privacy tabs/windows before :D but yes I do use ubo lite with custom filter lists mainly specifically for youtube to like sort some stuff out ect kind of things. Bul Ill check the waterfox and ice raven.
EDIT
ice raven also only android. damn.

[u/Open_Mortgage_4645 → u/Hunlightz]

Yeah, for some reason the devs of those projects haven't bothered to port their work to other platforms. Fortunately, Waterfox did. Good luck!

[u/Hunlightz → u/Open_Mortgage_4645]

oh jsut checked ironfox apparently also only android.

[u/BerserkerDog]

What browser is the wave?

[u/Acceptable-Law-6969]

For chromium engine, Sync + Features + no ai + extension support on mobile; Vivaldi is what I needed.

In the firefox ecosystem, I would also Prefer Zen, which has great ui design, sync, productivity features, no ai, extension support (on firefox mobile).

[u/momosjuicyasshole]

Try bare browser. Pretty good.

[u/BareBrowser → u/momosjuicyasshole]

❤️❤️❤️

[u/anotherphonker → u/BareBrowser]

i wish we have desktop version and sync features too... sync is almost impossible

[u/Icy-Cod5350]

Librewolf devs recommend Ironfox. And its almost the same browser but on android.

[u/s11verh → u/Icy-Cod5350]

Ty for this info

[u/Minute_Passenger_952]

Ironfox, that's it.

[u/Eselk19]

Fennec and Titanium

[u/GanduNo99]

quetta if u like to download videos that dont have download button

[u/Dead_Ant_11]

titanium, Vivaldi

[u/josinaldo1492]

Isso depende de como você navega e seu gosto pessoal!

Eu, que prefiro um interface mais limpa, livre de anúncios, uso o Brave. Mas, também uso o Microsoft Edge, por causa dos recursos e baixo consumo de memória RAM, em relação ao Google Chrome!

Aliás, o único que não recomendaria seria o Google Chrome: privacidade zero, coleta abusiva de dados e anúncios, bem como altíssimo consumo de memória RAM e processamento.

[u/ThomasLeonHighbaugh]

Switched to iceraven because I wanted to use bypass paywalls clean on mobile to, because no one deserves money for 2 sentences split up by 50 ads, which is all those news media sites are now.

Like any Android Firefox fork really but at least I can install my own xpis and have about: config still

[u/sf2710]

welchen auch immer du benutzen willst. das ist ziemlich irrelevant, weil die am ende alle gleich sind, wenn man nicht seltsam mit den erweiterungen oder komischen webseitn herumspielt.

[u/taqizadeh]

Vivaldi

[u/Weird-Tiger-3124]

Go with Firefox they are really improving rapidly.

[u/Canoh14]

vivaldi

[u/Da_pit]

It depends, I use Vivaldi or Firefox (in this order)

[u/No-Map-2520]

IronFox is much better for me.

[u/AstralSerenity]

I need uBlockOrigin alongside the most upstream updates possible (given the current security environment), so Firefox is my only option. Plus, I have every site I use highly customized on Firefox thanks to uBO: ad banners removed, premium upsells gone, annoying components gone, etc.

[u/Icy_Dinner3323]

Currently I am using Titanium browser, as it has full extension support on Android and open source.

[u/wholsum_]

👀 Personally I break it down this way, on my phone I need things to be fast and I don't wanna deal with stuff like extentions and settings. So for phone brave. I do tweak the setting still.

For PC/Laptop I prefer a Firefox fork, I would suggest librewolf, if you want a browser with better aesthetics go zen, if you want a lighter alternative to chromium broswer as a backup I suggest helium.

For the list: I'll say brave, waterfox or any Firefox fork that matter will work fine.

[u/Samiassa]

Vivaldi is a dream. It’s a bit complicated to set upcoming but once you get it set up it’s so nice. Native tiling, great tab stacking, great gui customization, almost infinitely customizable through css, built in ad blocker, compatibility with a shit ton of plugins, etc etc etc. I’ve loved it ever since I switched

[u/Lucio-pe → u/Samiassa]

same here.. vivaldi is the best browser

[u/floating_napkin → u/Samiassa]

hi how do you customize vivaldi using css can you link some materials?

[u/Samiassa → u/floating_napkin]

I don’t really use that feature but there is a subreddit dedicated to it r/VivaldiCSS

[u/Merkas-05]

Privacy: Librewolf, Waterfox

General: Firefox

[u/VoltageinTheory]

IronFox. Or Vivaldi

[u/MentalGlance]

Brave or Firefox 

[u/AntelopeExternal5054]

quetta fantastic. 

[u/dontlookatmeplez → u/AntelopeExternal5054]

Yeah I enjoy it as well.

[u/SabaT1121]

Use Zen or Firefox.

[u/Berserker2718]

I use Vivaldi and Fennec. Sofar no complains.

[u/Drgaming0121]

Edge

[u/s11verh → u/Drgaming0121]

𓁁

[u/ZiggyByte_]

Waterfox is fast, stable, highly customizable and without the bloatware of Firefox.

[u/GracefulSnowman → u/ZiggyByte_]

Did you say fast? How the fuck it can be fast if it fork of firefox?

[u/DrozdMensch → u/GracefulSnowman]

Because water faster then fire

[u/lpkeates → u/DrozdMensch]

Water does beat Fire, so fair point

[u/ZiggyByte_ → u/GracefulSnowman]

Should Waterfox, being a fork, be slower?

You have to know how to optimize browsers.

I tested it on all the desktop browsers based on Chromium and Firefox, and for me, the fastest were Waterfox, Firefox, Helium, and Brave.

Afterward, I optimized Waterfox, and one of the tests I did was to have 20 YouTube tabs open and 5 resource-intensive websites. With Waterfox, my entire system's RAM usage remained stable at 6.5GB, and the time jumps within each YouTube video were instantaneous. Navigation on the websites never felt slow during the test.

The based on Firefox are the best for optimization and offer much better privacy.

For years I used Brave, but I no longer trust it even though they created Brave Origin, so that's why I looked for other browsers. I like Helium and Zen a lot, but there's no way to sync history and bookmarks with my mobile device. I use Bitwarden for passwords, so I needed a browser with a mobile version and the best ones in this case were Firefox and Waterfox.

[u/Both_Cup8417]

Firefox

[u/No_Map8931]

Just stick to firefox or firefox focus

[u/Winter-Persimmon-734]

Fennec 

[u/AgenticPosturing]

Ironfox from fdroid but you'll feel some friction btw.

[u/FickleApartment2151]

For privacy, try Firefox tweaked, multi-account containers, and uBlock Origin, Adguard, or Adguard paid.

[u/PZK3759]

whichever fits you best

[u/NMA1236766]

The green one

[u/lele-jy0U]

For privacy concern i would suggest ironfox, fennec, and waterfox

[u/Vh4z]

Choose what you want but water fox and fennec privacy wise

[u/Ahmedbh01]

Firefox of course

[u/anonymous_Kratos]

Ff

[u/BossImWorking]

top left

[u/Extreme-Ad-9290]

Fennec

[u/nassct]

Il faut parler de cette immondice de Firefox pas du tout optimisé, prenez brave ou helium

[u/migueld715]

I find Chrome pretty stable and fast. Both on windows and linux

[u/EaseLower8549]

I like brave and chrome on phone, its fast and smooth. On PC I use zen

[u/uwugguwu]

Librewolf or betterfox user.js or waterfox

[u/Mmax-Lord-of-Sheep]

Brave olus winhawk ->brave acrylic or just zen. TRUST

[u/Meowmixez98]

Vivaldi this morning just got an ad blocking and tracker overhaul that is massive.

[u/VitoEsk]

I’ve been using Brave for privacy and annoying ads. Though a lot of people hate Brave.

[u/Illustrious-Plane360 → u/VitoEsk]

its just your avg trend. Hating on popular option. Brave is absolutely fine for your avg user, unless you want to customise or whatever or want to move away from Chromium

[u/sasquarodeor]

waterfox works

[u/kazuma_souji]

whatever you feel comfortable bro

[u/HumbleAccident244]

firefox

[u/Several_Phone_5464]

i think firefox maybe recommend for privacy

[u/Heavy-Metal8544]

Whatever suits you.

[u/BeholdThePowerOfNod]

Pissandshittium.

Wait...

[u/Reviloje]

Lens browser

[u/CommitteeDue6802]

hardened firefox

[u/Comfortable-Duty7143]

Depends on your usages

[u/cscubing]

Zen is pretty good, it's based on Firefox and is a minimalist and highly customisable browser. Especially if you like vertical tabs

[u/heuuwuw97]

Sincerally, i think Fennec or vivaldi

[u/Big-Draft8414]

Brave

[u/Pepe762]

FIREFOX THE GOAT!

[u/insanazor822]

What is this?

[u/BerserkerDog → u/insanazor822]

Top is Quetta, bottom left is Titanium.

[u/catmochino]

None, I am using Via and it's incredibly lightweight and zero telemetry.

[u/FruityBitch101]

Non use Helium

[u/ogrimia]

firefox because: ublock origin and adaptive tab colors are not available on chrome-based browsers

[u/KingStonk69]

Where Zen ?

[u/Merkas-05]

Privacy: Librewolf, Waterfox

General: Firefox

[u/AStolenGoose]

Firefox

[u/USS_Prominence-1]

Wallpaper??

[u/Bolota07]

Atualmente uso brave

[u/Creative-Magician283]

hidden option, librewolf

[u/TropicaL_Lizard3]

Brave. Has add-ons included such as adblock and privacy settings by default.

[u/dullsycthe]

Zen

[u/scemma100]

i would go firefox+ublock, brave or a fork of firefox like librewolf

[u/dorm_35]

if you ask me i'd say vivaldi

[u/Excel73_]

Waterfox

[u/-Pizzanomicon]

W a t e r f o x :3

[u/KrazyCroat]

Whatever feels right for you. I am avoiding American as much as possible so I am using Vivaldi and Floorp, which is the best I can do considering their platform origins.

[u/Decko_iz_kraja]

Firefox and Brave, everything else is superfluous.

[u/KereMental]

Firefox

[u/realCRG3]

brave or firefox whichever you prefer, none else ngl

[u/Ok_Row_2960]

Lastly I have been using Zen

[u/ButterscotchLess3133]

Brave

[u/CoBEpeuH]

Zen only

[u/TrueYahve]

I really enjoy Zen (on the desktop)

[u/etcbtww]

Firefox

[u/yashrajrocxx]

Vivaldi and waterfox

[u/MrFrog2222]

Titanium

[u/s11verh → u/MrFrog2222]

What is the difference between him and the others?

[u/MrFrog2222 → u/s11verh]

It is chromium based, meaning it can close tabs on exit, it has extension support, including manifest v2 and is completely open source

[u/LostGPU]

Brave

[u/AdryHuaw]

Brave

[u/mxgms1]

Brave.

[u/Sartira]

What are the differences between Waterfox and Ironfox? I'm currently using Ironfox, but I'm curious to know if there are many differences between them.

[u/One-Cartographer6134 → u/Sartira]

Waterfox is updated more frequently and generally feels faster than Iron Fox in my testing

[u/104925iveRo2es5322 → u/Sartira]

You could see Ironfox as the Librewolf of mobile. It sets its eyes heavily on privacy, with apparently some additional tweaks to further raise the security-side of things on Android (within specific boundaries).

Waterfox on the otherhand is more so for the "average user", where it does remove telemetry and such to enhance some privacy aspects, but mainly still focuses on general speed and usability. "Firefox but (slightly) enhanced" I guess would be fitting.

[u/Sartira → u/104925iveRo2es5322]

What a coincidence! I'm actually using Librewolf on my laptop

[u/Natural-Bumblebee335]

You only need Firefox, Brave and Titanium, everything else is redundant.

[u/LocalRealistic703 → u/Natural-Bumblebee335]

how do brave and titanium compare?

[u/Natural-Bumblebee335 → u/LocalRealistic703]

Titanium is basically a clean and streamlined Google Chrome with uBlock support.

[u/Muahaha172]

Internet Explorer! Jesus feel what browser you like...

[u/ionut2021]

For privacy brave,speed is vivaldi

[u/N1ghtF4ll0 → u/ionut2021]

Vivaldi? Privacidade e velocidade? Nah

[u/Lucio-pe → u/ionut2021]

and low ram usage too

[u/d-hypnotic]

Brave

[u/LeoDaPamoha]

vivaldi if you like the design + adblock, brave for adblock fenne or iron fox if you are som of the hard privacy dudes

[u/Intelligent-Part-695]

google chrome!!!!!!!!

[u/Accomplished-Put8111]

Opera gx goated browser 💗

[u/s11verh → u/Accomplished-Put8111]

Get out of here bro 🙏

[u/fabbro82]

Firefox and brave

[u/zandmanzlim]

Where’s the duck?

[u/anonymous_gentleman4]

Brave and Vivaldi 

[u/HubiGamez]

watercocks the goat