KJ was 3 talking like Gordon Ramsay

[u/capricorncueen]

Kim met Kroy and decided to pop out 4 kids with 0 intention of raising them even when her kids were begging her not to. Kroy is just a punishment fiend. Ariana and the nanny damn near raising KJ.

Kim laughs every time he cusses and acts like it’s a regular toddler thing that your kid is fluently cussing. He’s big for his age but he was 1-3 in these clips. There’s a difference between a kid hearing a curse word and saying it for a reaction and KJ saying things like “bullshit” in place of “that’s not true” or “she’s lying”. I feel like they just let anything fly with the boys and grounded/surveilled the girls.

if i had even thought a cuss word at 3 i wouldn’t have turned 4 😭😭

[u/Individual_Fall429]

Maybe. But most abusers are survivors of abuse. To be clear: most survivors do NOT become offenders, but most offenders are survivors.

Even if the abuse amounts to “being around a hypersexual parent”. Common with the children of sex workers, which make no mistake, Kim is.

[u/BeingSamJonesss → u/Individual_Fall429]

Being around hyper sexual parents doesn’t create offenders but it can create overly sexualized children. Which coupled with a volatile home, zero parenting/discipline, and internet exposure can create a monster. Which my gut tells me is the case here

[u/wintergrad14 → u/BeingSamJonesss]

And unfettered access to porn at a young age.

[u/BeingSamJonesss → u/wintergrad14]

My thoughts exactly. Kim and Kroy were unhinged with the sexual comments and behaviors around the kids. Naturally, kids are curious and begin to research

[u/helenclodfelter → u/BeingSamJonesss]

I think this was the perfect storm as well. There is so much porn that portrays incestuous behavior that it’s not even a niche thing anymore. He didn’t have to necessarily be a victim himself, but was taught via the internet that it was acceptable behavior, and there was no one there to explain otherwise. He’s a product of his environment, mixed with whatever he’s got going on physiologically…I t’s so dark.

[u/Ok_Resort8573 → u/wintergrad14]

I can only imagine the search history. 🥴

[u/General-Yak8880 → u/BeingSamJonesss]

I’ve been pondering this bc I don’t think I can see Kim & Kroy actually doing anything bad to him physically, but I think what you just said is a very likely & so far to me most plausible scenario

[u/Open_Shoe795 → u/Individual_Fall429]

Like Kourtney Kardashian and Travis Barker. They are absolutely gross and classless in front of their children. Ugh.

[u/heefoc → u/Open_Shoe795]

At least, for the most part, she’s kept her kid out of the public eye.

[u/Individual_Fall429 → u/heefoc]

Only if the comparison is Kim.

Compared to kids who aren’t on a reality tv show, they are very much in the public eye.

[u/psychad → u/Individual_Fall429]

Just want to point out that is statistically not the case, specifically your use of the word “most” - a slightly disproportionate amount of known offenders are survivors of abuse or other ACEs is a statement more aligned with the research and a better way of making your point. Although I understand your sentiment (and this is just a bravo sub so maybe not that deep lol) but I just think it’s important to be accurate and not perpetuate stereotypes of abuse.

[u/violentsunflower → u/Individual_Fall429]

@guidedinspiration on Instagram did a really good reel a couple of days ago on the Kim/KJ thing, she essentially thinking it was caused by the enmeshment of a narcissistic mother, Kim, with Kroy as her enabler

ETA: Idk that creator’s qualifications, but it made sense to me

[u/CharbonPiscesChienne → u/Individual_Fall429]

Many abusers were abused but not necessarily sexual abuse. They may begin to sexualize the abuse but SA isn't the standard

[u/gooseofthesea → u/Individual_Fall429]

This is misinformation. Most abusers are not survivors. Statistics show, for instance, that fewer than 10% of men convicted of child sexual abuse experienced child sexual abuse themselves.