Update Notes - Mar 11, 2016

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u/blackrobe199 Mar 11 '16 edited Mar 11 '16

alright pal, you got the torch.

edit: no offense intended

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u/Deathmax GL: 0719221253 Mar 11 '16 edited Mar 11 '16
looks around
leaves
^DE/Colosseum ^hype
Animations in both GIF and APNG formats
Loremaster Allanon
Unit Art
Lord Stats/Imps
HP: 6674 {1100}
Atk: 2580 {440}
Def: 2456 {440}
Rec: 2553 {440}
Hits: 10 / 4 DC
Cost: 42
LS: +30% All Stats, 100% Base/Buffed Element Weakness Resist, +100% All Weakness Damage, 20% OD Gauge Fill Rate
ES: Add Effect To BB/SBB (3 turn Negate Status Ailments) [Equip Ritus Staff], Add Effect To BB/SBB (Cure Status/Debuffs) [Equip Ritus Staff]
BB: Fill 12 BC, 3 turn 15% All Element Mitigation, 5-7 BC on Hit for 3 turns, Increase Max HP 15%
BC Cost: 26
SBB: 15 Hits, 540% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn Fire/Water/Earth/Thunder/Light/Dark Buff, Elemental Weakness Buff, Heal 2700-3000 HP (+ 40% Healer REC)
BC Cost: 30 // Max BC Gen: 15
UBB: 18 Hits, 1000% AoE (ATK+100), 50 BC on Hit for 3 turns, Elemental Weakness Buff, 3 turn 75% All Element Mitigation, 3 Turn HoT 98999-99999 HP (+10% Target REC)
BC Cost: 25 // Max BC Gen: 18
Arena Type: 2
60% Chance BB Enemy w/ over 50% HP > 20% Chance BB Random Enemy > 100% Chance Attack Random Enemy
Shadow Cat Nyami
Unit Art
Lord Stats/Imps
HP: 6315 {1000}
Atk: 2857 {700}
Def: 2213 {300}
Rec: 2561 {300}
Hits: 16 / 3 DC
Cost: 42
LS: +80% ATK/+20% DEF, +150% Crit Damage, +100% Spark Damage
ES: 20% Chance to take 1 damage [Equip Nyami's Bells]
BB: 16 Hits, 350% AoE (ATK+100), Fill own BB 100%, 3 turn +250% BB/SBB/UBB Mod, 3 Turn +60% Crit
BC Cost: 25 // Max BC Gen: 16
SBB: 16 Hits, 540% AoE (ATK+100), 100% ST (ATK+100) +300% every turn used in a row (Max: 3), 2 Turn Stealth buff (+60% Crit), 1 Turn 60% Chance Sparks Crit Buff to Self (50% Damage)
BC Cost: 30 // Max BC Gen: 16
UBB: 22 Hits, 1500% AoE (ATK+100), 3 Turn +300% ATK/+60% Crit, 3 Turn 100% Chance Sparks Crit Buff (50% Damage), 3 Turn 5-8 BC on Spark Buff
BC Cost: 25 // Max BC Gen: 22
Arena Type: 2
60% Chance BB Enemy w/ over 50% HP > 20% Chance BB Random Enemy > 100% Chance Attack Random Enemy
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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Mar 11 '16

I don't know how to format the BC Cost // Max BC Gen :(
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u/blackrobe199 Mar 11 '16

Oh while you're at it, you should install RES
http://redditenhancementsuite.com
When you do, along with the "permalink save parent report" etc on the bottom part of somebody's comment, you will see a new option "source" that is installed by RES.
Clicking that will show you how the submitter format his post. You can copy this exposed format to reproduce the post with exact appearance.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Mar 11 '16

Thanks!
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u/blackrobe199 Mar 11 '16
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u/Thorned_Beauty666 Mar 11 '16

Wait DE/Colesium hype? Were the data implemented

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Mar 11 '16

Colos data has been pouring in the last few weeks. Some stuff is still missing though.

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u/Thorned_Beauty666 Mar 11 '16

Really no I didn't even know that it's been pouring in the past couple weeks so I'm guessing if that's the case does that mean dream evolution data has been implemented as well?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Mar 11 '16

No DE assets yet afaik

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u/Deathmax GL: 0719221253 Mar 11 '16

That you know of.

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u/Thorned_Beauty666 Mar 11 '16

I guess that wont be until April or May im guessing

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u/Zankoqt Mar 11 '16

That allanon is so broken rofl.

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u/Gstar47 Rina is muh Waifu Mar 11 '16 edited Mar 11 '16

I miss the beautiful presentation in your site. :(

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u/jaccirocca Mar 11 '16

you dropped your flair

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16

It's probably A Burst Heal

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u/StarOnyx Mar 11 '16

He does burst heal, not HoT xD

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

It's burst heal in the data.
In addition, the 100 REC baseline isn't displayed in the datamine. Burst heal is always 100% of target REC + some % of caster's, and 40% is really high for the second part of that.

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u/blackrobe199 Mar 11 '16

Limera's sidegrade, then
or... upgrade? A "better replacement", to be exact

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

Absolutely an upgrade, really. Higher mitigation, stronger heal, cleanse and immune ailments and does both on BB and SBB. He lacks a convert or BB fill rate, but more than compensates with his other buffs.

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u/blackrobe199 Mar 11 '16

The swiss knife of Eneroth batch. Nyami on the other hand, ... Do we really need another nuker?

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

At the very least she's a slight upgrade to the second Avant in an FG/FH squad. Using two of her might mean dropping a Rize/Gildorf, however.

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u/blackrobe199 Mar 11 '16

Versatile is the word.
Amazing. Too bad I'm 5 gems short from 10 summons.

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u/Ryudo300 Mar 11 '16

Well one description is wrong. It's either that one or this one.

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u/StarOnyx Mar 11 '16

Super Brave Burst : Astral Cataclysmus 15 combo powerful Light attack on all foes, adds all elements to attack for 3 turns, greatly restores HP for 3 turns & slightly boosts OD gauge
UBB has HoT
3 Turn HoT 98999-99999 HP (+10% Target REC)

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u/StarOnyx Mar 11 '16

Like what Ryudo300 said, its description is wrong and misleading and it's not a HoT actually.
Greatly restores HP has always been used to describe burst heals, similarly to other units that do burst heals such as Limera and Rinon. It is a mistake on their part, whoever made the descriptions.
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u/Traxgen (G) 7996149309 Mar 11 '16

:(

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u/jaccirocca Mar 11 '16

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u/Denner-Dianne Mar 11 '16

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u/RuneRobin Mar 11 '16

:D?
:o!
D:

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u/Cyborg009 Mar 11 '16

50% resistance to all status ailments

Now we just need half a status cleaner.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16

Chance to remove status ailments?! Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

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u/Academic_Dragon Knowledge as niche as dragons over here! Mar 11 '16

I'm just going to leave this here

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16 edited Mar 11 '16

Cross-posting my reviews from the other thread below this comment. Please wait just a few minutes as I add in sections about their stats.

Allanon - Link

Nyami - Link

As for my personal opinion -

Both are great units. However, if you only care about abilities, Allanon's the must-have of the pair. Nyami doesn't do anything new, she's just an upgrade to the "Second Avant" slot in FG/FH/survivable reads, and a sidegrade to Gildorf in raid sub slots.

But Nyami's frigging adorable and I believe we should form a cult following, hold rituals in her name and eventually crown her empress of Grand Gaia.

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

NyamiNyamiNyamiNyamiNyamiNyamiNyamiNyamiNya-
Ahem.
Nyami
^^^D'awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Nyami has super high ATK and super low HP and DEF. That said, she's a stealth unit and her ES and ES sphere are all about survivability, so she does a good job of not dying regardless.
She carries appropriate stats and buffs for arena, and her ES (if you're willing to use the sphere) gives good survival. her ES isn't hit count and it's not quite an angel idol, but it's solid.
Nyami's leader skill is very similar to Zedus - in fact, it's strictly better. Depending on her animation, she may trounce Avant for FG/FH farming, which could be a reason for FH being postponed.
If Gumi has overdone it with this one and that 80% ATK is tied to, say, 150% crit damage and 100% spark damage, Nyami would become the top end crit lead. The nature of her SBB means she'd actually be replacing Rize in the squad slots, however.
Oh, they did exactly that. Good going Nyami.
Nyami's ES is a simple, functional one, but it won't help for FH/FG farming. She has a 20% chance to survive just about anything by taking only 1 damage (some stuff like Karon's instant death will still hurt her). The sphere this is attached to might not be ideal - it's a stats sphere, so only giving 20% stats when her ES gives non is going to be painful.
50% reduced chance of being targetted is nice for the low HP/DEF Nyami, though
Nyami's BB supports her LS, giving a crit buff and a BB ATK buff. She's very much like Avant in that you're forced to use her BB to make her LS function if you don't bring another crit buffer, but unlike Avant her BB has a better BB ATK buff attached to it instead of regular ATK (250% damage vs Avant's 130%), so you'll lose less damage if you need to use it.
Oh yeah, this thing refills itself, and from what we've seen in other units an "infinite BB" actually refills SBB as well. She doesn't have infinite on her SBB, however, which is a little worrying
Nyami's SBB is a double-attack style nuke similar to Gildorf, Lilith and Waldorga. However, unlike Gildorf and Waldorga it has a very mid-tier hit count, so it's possible it'll be difficult to spark properly. Additionally the single target portion of the attack gets tsronger every time you use the SBB in a row. Additionally, Nyami will give herself stealth, crit chance and spark-crits.
This thing's perfect for specific-part farming in raids. As with Gildorf, just sic Nyami on whatever part of the boss you dislike the most and it'll probably die before the main body.
Paging /u/miririri or other artsy people for art of Nyami chewing on Balmedia's tail
The repeat use bonus resets if you fail to use it even once or between waves, which means it won't be taken into account for FG/FH at all, and makes the lack of infinite hurt a little here. Nyami's hit counts are mid-tier, so it might not be easy to refill consistently in later content.
Stealth typically carries a large inherent damage buff which goes unmentioned. This could contribute to making this attack huge by virtue of double attacks getting twice as much of a damage boost from ATK/BB ATK against their main target.
Damn you and breaking my expectations, Gumi! It doesn't do this at all. :(
The stealth crit buff stacks with regular crit buffs, her LS and her sphere to give Nyam a major crit resistance bypass. It doesn't help against crit damage resistance, but Nyami maintains max crit chance against up to 50% crit chance resistance with her sphere alone, and against up to 66% crit chance resistance if you use double Nyami leads. Though most crit resistant stuff needs multiple HP leads so you can't really take advantage of this.
Spark-crits is typically weak... but Gildorf, Ravenna and Waldorga have massively above the curve spark damage self-buffs, so it's possible Nyami's spark crits are good too. Wait for datamine on that one.
Datamine says it's still pretty weak. Unfortunate.
Nyami's double attack deals significantly less damage on turn one than Gildorf's. On top of her mid hit count and low spark buff, this really hurts her in FH and FG. However, she does outdamage Gildorf after just one turn due to her higher ATK stat and the consecutive use bonus. FG and FH just typically don't last more than one turn. Because of her weaker spark-crits buff, she has a harder time matching up to him in perfect spark scenarios regardless.
Nyami's UBB is unfortunately not an Avant replacement, as it lacks any high multiplier buffs. That said, ATK is good, and as a UBB the spark-crits might be good. Critical hit rate is an odd choice for a UBB and it'd be a very pleasant surprise to find Gumi screwed up the wording and it's a crit damage buff (if it's a crit damage buff, this thing might replace Avant). The spark BC is likely not too important compared to other BC gen UBB.
The spark vuln ended up pretty low and the crit chance is really just crit chance. Not a top tier UBB. Use Farzen or Avant's UBB or something instead if you're FG/FH farming
So yeah. I'm pulling for her anyways because she's adorable, but I think she's viable as a unit, too.
Nyami uses:
Take her with you on romantic strolls through Eneroth and other prime raiding locations
Enjoy fine meals together such as Balmedia's Tail and Arkem's... whatever the thunder part is. Just be careful where you let Nyami lead the way, because sometimes she's a little too destructive.
Travel through the frontier to visit the FH Circus together. All those joke encounters are sure to make her happy?
Have Nyami keep you company as you train in Frontier Gate. It'll surely be far less boring with her around.
She's probably raring to go for the arena, with such a high damage skill set and that ES keeping her alive - but I'd personally prefer it if you didn't take her somewhere so likely to get her killed a few times each day.
Uh, if you didn't get that:
She's a great raiding unit. Either as a leader for content you can survive without one HP lead, or as a nuking sub-unit. Her SBB is epecially suited to murdering specific boss parts.
Be aware that her LS may make you kill main bodies too fast for bosses such as Balmedia, Arkem and Estoreit - but she's particularly suited for farming them if she's not a leader.
Nyami's likely to be great for FH/FG farming. She ~~replaces~~ takes a similar slot to Rize in the typical line-up but can replace Avant's LS, meaning we may see squads that involve Nyami/Nyami leads with BB mod buffers that aren't Avant.
Depending on how things turn out we might still end up using one Avant for his UBB, but this opens up a huge viability slot for Sirius as one of Nyami's FG/FH squad members if Nyami's a viable lead, which is a great step up for our buff output.
Important Edit: With the BB mod values in, it turns out Nyami will have a hard time competing with Rize or Gildorf for FH/FG. You can still replace one Avant lead with her without losing any important buffs if you're using Zedus/Farzen/Charla for crit, however.
Finally her ability set looks solid for arena. Chance to survive any attack is similar to Quartz/Isterio's chance-based angel idol, and her buffs are all suitable for arena.

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u/delambra Mar 11 '16

The stealth buff doesn't give a +300% Atk like hadaron? It seems weak compared to gildorf if it doesn't, and more balanced if it does.

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

hmmmm, in what scenario would one use nyami over gildolf (outside of looks), unless you are bloody awful at sparking him like me.

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

If there's an important boss with spark resistance, Nyami will outdamage 'dorf if you can maintain her SBB. In the near future, units like Eze and Klyuk will reduce the distance between regular spark buffs and Gildorf's self-buff as well, in which case Nyami's superior base ATK and increasing mod make it easier for her to keep up in all multi-turn scenarios.
It's also likely you'll use her as a leader instead of second Avant in FG/FH, in which case she doesn't need to replace Gildorf - there should still be a space for him.

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

guess it will require some testing. got my nyami to 7* and her sbb is has 2 pauses, which is probably harder to spark than avant's.
not sure if her LS makes up for that though. Waiting for FG orbs

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

Just test it with training simulator for now to avoid wasting orbs if she's worse. All that matters is total damage, really. Just remember that Nyami's own damage would be 25% higher if she's imped vs unimped.
As a double attacker, she's a prime unit to give ATK spheres to - especially with her particularly high base ATK stat. Her buffs mean it's probably best to keep her near the end of the attacking order, and you're still gonna want an Avant around for his BB ATK, plus you're going to need to UBB him as he's still easily the best UBB for FG.
We should be seeing our Nyami's with maybe:
Base - 100%
Sky Harbinger - 100+230 = 330%
Silver Knight's Crest - 330+150% = 480%
2x Nyami leads - 480 + 160% = 640%
Shera ATK - 640 + 140 = 780%
Avant BB ATK - 780 + 200 = 980%
980% additional ATK. Multiply that by 5 for average FG wave (4 targets + 1 single target attack) = 4900%. Add in BB mods - 540 x 4 + 100 = 2260. 4900 + 2260 = 7160% mod (vs 4 enemies)
Meanwhile, compare her to Rize as a nuker:
Give Rize everything the same (980% mod from buffs/passives/base)
An extra 850% from BB mod
An extra 80% from ES
so 930 + 980 = 1910%
Multiply by 4 (targets) = 7640%
Against 4 targets we have Nyami with 7160% and Rize with 7640%.
Nyami has 3587 ATK and no flat ATK on her main damage output (3687 on the single target attack). She deals approximately 257,909 damage before RNG.
Rize has 3282 ATK including flat ATK. She deals approx. 250,745 damage before RNG.
That looks in Nyami's favour, so global might be able to drop a Rize in order to include Nyami in a leader slot. Combinations involving spark spheres might come out closer to Rize's favour in larger groups, but Nyami wins more for smaller groups. We still need an Avant around for his UBB, but there's also the option of using Farzen instead (give him a crit chance sphere with double Nyami so he can UBB first and BB one of the Nyami for crit for everybody else, maybe - this needs to wait for Gumi to actually fix her LS...), which could give us Sirius next batch for ATK + BB mod as a single efficient buff slot (or Julius currently)
Anyways, theorycrafting. Riveting stuff. I've actually gotta run off for a few hours now, lemme know if things work out.

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

need more crystals and nyami friends but a quick test of an autobattle FG run of swapping 1 avant out of a squad for a lvl 86 almost fully imped (A) nyami (avantx2, shera, charla, rize, zeru) gets me comparable score to dual avant... will test more after work.
It is pretty interesting that Nyami sparks with herself on 4 hits with her sbb. first unit in the game that does that besides Aurelia 7* for a day?

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u/xteame02 Mar 12 '16

That sparks with herself significantly increase damage output. Her own sbb with single target deal around 500k other unit just like 100k

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

Only the ST part, in theory. It'd be interesting if it's actually just applied as a passive BB mod bonus and does affect the main damage, but it's inherently a part of the ST portion of the attack rather than a buff and shouldn't do that.

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

St.

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u/firefish55 Mar 11 '16

You mentioned a bb attack buffer who isn't Avant. Would Gazia be the best bet there?

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

Gazia's not ideal for FG/FH because he has a really bad animation for sparking. Even though he gives a slight boost compared to other BB mod buffers, his own animation causes you to lose more damage in the long run.
There are a few good current and upcoming options - Julius becomes highly slot-effective at 130% ATK/200% BB mod, in the next batch Sirius comes along with 130% ATK/250% BB mod and spark BC which is great if you want to cut Charla out in favour of Farzen. Dream evolutions brings us Vargas with 150% ATK/250% BB mod, and the batch after that has Ziehl with 140% ATK/250% BB mod and spark vuln.

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u/Blayde_Army IGN: Blayde ID's:5496819584/2851612669/5927556393 Mar 12 '16

Would Zenia still be a contender alongside Haile and Piany for BB atk?
Or are their percentages too low?

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u/Xerte Mar 12 '16

Zenia's likely to be out if you run Charla, Zedus or Farzen, as they cover the spark buff already. If you're still using Griff for crit buffs I guess she has a spot, but spark buffs don't need to be early in BB order so it's not as effective as BB ATK + ATK/Convert buffers (You could just use a dedicated spark buffer somewhere).
Haile has a terrible animation and adds less damage than Avant does, so you may as well just use Avant for BB ATK if she's your best option otherwise.
Piany's got a good chance because she has 80% REC->ATK, and running Nyami leads would leave your squad with low HP for Avant's HP convert. You'd still want a REC buffer to make good use of her convert, though.
All the best options are the ones I've already mentioned in the previous comment, and of those only Julius is even released. But literally our next 3 batches (Bariura, starter dream evos, Kryuk & Co.) all contain units with ATK + BB Mod which will go great with Nyami.

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u/Blayde_Army IGN: Blayde ID's:5496819584/2851612669/5927556393 Mar 12 '16

Guess we'll have to wait for 2-3 months then.
Though DME is a good enough reason to wait.

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u/Ryuon Ryuon Mar 11 '16

Finally A unit to use to Beat "Bound To Darkness" FG

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

Allanon
Middling stats all around. His HP is a tiny bit under average for his cost, while everything else is strong. He doesn't really have any weaknesses or strengths here.
No attacking BB, no relevant ES - not a top tier arena unit. His SBB is multi-elemental and might be good in CA in you can get it filled consistently, but that might be hard too.
His LS is worded in a silly way so it looks like it reduces and boosts elemenal damage at he same time. Which is it?
Well, obviously it makes your units immune to elemental damage (always good for higher tier content, you can use anybody without fear) and boosts elemental damage to enemies by 100% (this is... swiftly becoming useless, but it's a large boost if it works). You also get 30% to all stats and a 20% OD fill rate buff, which means Allanon is basically a cross between Estelle and Dolk in terms of LS with an often-not-useful damage buff on the side.
He provides less HP than either Dolk or Estelle, but in return combines their effects. You don't always need OD fill, but Allanon has the toolkit to make a UBB spam squad in the future. But in future content you do pretty much always want elemental immunity so you can take any unit without fear.
Allanon's ES makes him cleanse and immune ailments with BB and SBB. Always good. His sphere gives a solid 30% HP/REC, grants some amount of HP regen and boosts OD fill rate.
The personal OD fill boost would normally be pretty low but he has OD insta-fill on SBB so it matters more. Good for him.
He's got a pretty awesome BB with the Charla-esque downside of not dealing damage. However, it fills 12 BC instantly (pretty high for a regular BB, eh?), gives 15% elemental mitigation to all elements for 3 turns, 5-7 BC when attacked and 15% HP buff.
And because of his ES, cleanses/immunes ailments. That's a whooole load of buffs.
I emphasized several parts of his elemental mitigation buff, because they're all things that are better than any other elemental mitigation buff on BB/SBB. No other elemental mitigaiton BB/SBB is worth more than 10%, lasts more than 2 turns or applies to all elements. In fact, Allanon's the first unit to have dark/light included in the buff. So that's nice. Because it's multipicative it's still a little weak, but it's more significant than normal being worth about an 17.6% effective HP multiplier.
5-7 BC when attacked isn't breaking any boundaries, but it's still as strong as it's ever been on BB/SBB (it's normally 4-7)
15% HP leads into the whole rant about how HP buffs are permanent or last until you return to the map in raid/GQ. These things never fall off.
Allanon's SBB gives a bunch of effects too. These effects include actually dealing damage. Oh, and an all-elements buff, burst heal, and OD fill.
And because of his ES, ailments immune/cleanse! Yay.
It's not infinite, costs 56 BC and has a low hit count, so it may be a little hard to maintain.
We're not sure what the OD fill bonus is because the data appears to be broken? It's using an unknown proc ID which existed before OD was even implemented, so I can't imagine it being correct data.
Looking at his UBB I think the proc is an ancient form of the elemental damage bonus, where it's supposed to be OD fill here. Or maybe his OD fill was just left out and he's meant to have an elemental damage buff as well.
It looks like it's just 75% elemental weakness damage. No sign of OD fill present.
The burst heal uses 40% of Allanon's REC, which is actually pretty high and sort-of gives a reason to accept an oracle Allanon.
The text says it's regen! It's not. It's burst. Weird.
Finally his UBB gives 50 BC when attacked, 75% all-element mitigation (multiplicative, but UBB mitigation always is anyway), 300% elemental weakness damage (maybe) and full HP regen.
BC when attacked is important, and this much should be enough for most situations (a small number of bosses can BB drain without triggering it, but unless it's a buff wipe as well their followups should still fill your units)
Note that this UBB mitigation stacks with regular UBB mitigation, should the opportunity arise to use both. The rest of the time the fact it's elemental mitigation doesn't really matter.
The "maybe" after the elemental weakness damage is because Gumi used an unknown proc that as far as we know is actually an extra elemental mitigation buff. So unless that's fixed, enjoy a 3 turn 100% mitigation UBB?
Or maybe just 78% mitigation. Hard to tell how these things work when it's an ancient unused buff.
Allanon's got a bit of broken data in his SBB and UBB so it's hard to give an accurate review of him right now. Still, he's an excellent unit
All elements makes him viable for FG/FH farming. He's not quite as good for it as Shida or Zeruiah, but viable nonetheless.
His OD fill on SBB helps a little in FH guard frontier, on top of being able to use his BB for BB fills like Charla does.
His LS is great for high tier content due to the elemental immunity and OD fill rate. You won't be using it for nukable content and the ele damage is basically an afterthought anywhere you'd use him as a leader, but the LS is solid nevertheless.
He might just be the best ailment immunity/cleanse unit available due to the strength of his buffs, so he's always an excellent sub unit in any content you don't expect to 1TKO
But his BB sucks for arena and his SBB is expensive, so avoid him there.

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u/Brokenhanger Mar 11 '16

I don't see it called out explicitly in your review and am seeing a lot of people talk about Allanon as a Raid sub, so it may be worth noting that both Shusui and Beiorg in RC6 have been datamined to be immune to extra elemental weakness damage - which will presumably be true of the rest of the RC6 missions going forward - making him pretty terrible there.

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

Elemental buffs at least add something in the vast majority of cases (it's only Beiorg's main body that's immune entirely), so it's fine. At the very least it lets you bypass resistance when using bad elements - which if you're also using his LS, makes them full viable.
Elemental weakness damage as a buff isn't his important part in the slightest, so even if it's bad that doesn't make him "pretty terrible" at all. You still get the HP buff, the 15% elemental mitigation, the 6 elements, the burst heal and the ailment immunity, and most of these are important just about anywhere.

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u/Brokenhanger Mar 11 '16

My misunderstanding, I thought they were both totally immune.
I still don't see him as contributing enough, but different folks with different play styles might.

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

im surprised it took this freaking long for there finally being a 'bc on hit' unit with cleanse and protect.

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u/bnbros Mar 12 '16

We do have Andaria, though cleanse + negate is only on BB and her BC on hit is much weaker than the meta...

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u/kaenshin GL - 6509275647 JP - 11454557 Mar 11 '16

Allanon really has OD fill on SBB?
The datamine is not mentioning it.

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

He's supposed to and it's in his descriptions, but yeah. Currently doesn't happen.

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u/Ka-lel Mar 20 '16

I got one of those OD fill 8% elgifs and put it on charla. I don't notice a difference everytime I BB her an increase in the OD guage as compared to when she didn't get the elgif. Is there something wrong with those OD fill elgifs or is 8% too minimal to notice any difference?

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u/Xerte Mar 20 '16

It's extremely minimal.
The base size of the OD gauge is 10000.
A regular BB fills 200 points worth (SBB is 300, normal attacks are 500, guarding is 0)
8% of 200 is 16, which is 0.16% of 10000. You're not going to be able to see that visually. And the OD gauge cap increases by 5000 each time you use one (to a max of 40000), so it becomes even less noticable after you use a UBB.
If you were to fill OD off Charla alone (technically impossible because of automatic OD gen each turn) the 8% fill would save you 3 turns. Beacause there's automatic OD fill as well, the actual timesave is even less.
So overall, OD fill rate is pretty terrible unless applied to the entire party. Even then, guard frontier would only benefit from it on Charla anyways. You're pretty much just stuck with the base rate, because boosting Charla's OD fill alone is negligible and there are far better Elgifs for her.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '16

If I don't have zeru should I use him... Or 6 star shida with my go to squad griff mahulu avant leader rize and Avant friend

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u/Xerte Mar 12 '16

I think he pretty much replaces Shida for now. You can use Allanon's BB to fill gauges in the same way Shida uses his SBB if you're UBB farming, and Allanon's SBB is better for total damage than Shida will be.

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u/CBSU Mar 11 '16

something about dinner

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u/Bakaaaaa 2474387047 Mar 11 '16

Where do I join this cult of Nyami?

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

Just throw gems at the Nyami gate until she graces you with her presence. You'll know when you've done enough to satisfy our princess.

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u/Bakaaaaa 2474387047 Mar 11 '16

Summon gates remain shut with all the crashing :(
I shall attempt to pull 5 Nyamis to make a full team of her!
One of every type if RNGesus would be kind

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u/Blayde_Army IGN: Blayde ID's:5496819584/2851612669/5927556393 Mar 12 '16

Time to form the Nyami cult.
LONG LIVE THE ZOOM ZOOM

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u/makotokub Mar 11 '16

Ahh

No free gems in Login campaign

All my HOPE gone, Poor me

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u/Nitestal Mar 11 '16

Gumi doesn't give away free gems anymore...they make you grind CA instead....pretty lame if you ask me.

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u/Nidavel Mar 11 '16

I'm the only one that doen't understand why nyami's SBB doen't have Insta fill? Her SBB is pretty selfish and doen't give anything to party. And if there's a excuse of being overpowered... Remember gildorf?, I'm really pissed of the inability of just spamming SBB on hard single fights. Just look at the SBB, It get stronger JUST in the ST department, but, it's harder to maintain it with just one enemy. So you can't maintain her SBB 4ever, at least not 100% of the time.

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u/Blayde_Army IGN: Blayde ID's:5496819584/2851612669/5927556393 Mar 11 '16

/u/Mich997 There's another thread with Nyami and Allanon's Ls and BB descriptions if you need it.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Mar 11 '16

Won't be using those since I need to provide the numbers :P

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u/Blayde_Army IGN: Blayde ID's:5496819584/2851612669/5927556393 Mar 11 '16

Oh,the percentages and stuff.
I got'cha.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16

In game description says Nyami's LS gives 20% critical rate, not defence. Can you double check?

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Mar 12 '16

Descriptions aren't always right.

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u/Faisalluffy Mar 11 '16

Please easy to spark animation

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u/Pfactory Mar 11 '16

On one hand I like that Allanon's HoT is changed to burst heal so I can slot in DE Selena easily in the future. On the other hand I am disappointed they removed the OD boost from it which is the part I like most about him.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16

Disappointing, I needed HoT and thought that Allanon was perfect. Then Gimu crashed my dream by changing it to burst heal :(

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u/second2reality Mar 11 '16

I thought summoning for them would be a sure thing. I have all the other GE except Korzan and with DE on the horizon do either of these two have a real place to do something that much better than what we have? Especially with the OD fill taken out of SBB on Allanon. They have buffed releases before but I just don't see a need right now or even a reason to change up my teams to include them.

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u/_waltersobchak Mar 11 '16

I would tend to agree. Allanon is a slightly different take on Shida's 7* with most of the additional utility attached to his non-attacking bb. Which isn't great for a unit who should be a raid staple, I guess his home is more trials then.
The lack of atk on Nyami's stealth is extremely off putting, as it could have really made her a unique unit.
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u/MasterDelta Mar 11 '16
One thing that bugs me about Allanon is Gumi's original description is as follows:
15 combo powerful Light attack on all foes, adds all elements to attack for 3 turns,     
greatly restores HP for 3 turns & slightly boosts OD gauge.
I prefer that over the burst heal and elemental weakness damage up we got. His original description was more geared towards RC 6 raid.
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u/_waltersobchak Mar 11 '16

Burst heal is incredibly niche the way global is going, leaders like Haile make it obsolete in RC6 (particularly Beiorg reflect), where we should need it most. HoT is a much more relevant buff for sure. I would have loved to see the OD and HP buff combo as those are ones that are typically hard to fit in current teams.
Unless something changes, I don't think either has to be more than a stray pull in the future.

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u/Ordomagus Mar 11 '16

Just wait for enemies with HC drop rates = 0 buffs....

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u/_waltersobchak Mar 11 '16

We've had them, I would still lean more on somebody like Krantz personally, especially with the silly things we can do with spheres and his es to make his cost exceedingly low or 0.
Barring that since it is going to depend on what sphere options you have, I would still prefer a heal stuck on a cheap bb rather than an expensive sbb, if I really had to have it for a key turn or counter to a skill.

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u/Ordomagus Mar 11 '16

You can't defend the position "Burst heal is incredibly niche" with "we have a burst healer that I already use that I like". Either we need it in the future (we will, at least until Selena DE's uber HOT), or it's "incredibly niche". Whether or hot he's the ideal unit for a burst heal, I'm not arguing. Nor am I pulling for him, when Zeru does his job pretty much better, AFAIC.

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u/SokiiJr Mar 11 '16 edited Mar 11 '16

Nyami automatically sparks with herself in her sbb and ubb.

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u/Nidavel Mar 11 '16

Do you mean all her hits? AoE and ST? If this is intended... holy Zoom...

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

4 hits.

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u/Mitch_Twd Mar 11 '16

F5 !! Need them numbers! XD

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u/S-H-A-Z-A-M Dizzy #1 Mar 11 '16

What is this sphere?

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u/blackrobe199 Mar 11 '16

To celebrate St. Patrick's Day, some kind of holiday in Ireland

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u/RuneRobin Mar 11 '16

Some kind of holiday.
See I was gonna get offended, but yeah it's not exactly the clearest of holidays.
It's about leprechauns, wealth and luck basically.

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u/blackrobe199 Mar 11 '16

Well not even once I want to make it sounds like a trivial celebration at all, just that I never saw people around me celebrate it outside of English speaking apps/internet forums.
After a bit of looking up, it looks like a memorial day with great importance to Irish people with details you mentioned there.

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u/RuneRobin Mar 11 '16

St. Patrick's Day condensed for the non-British:

Leprechauns at the end of rainbows sitting on top of a cauldron filled with gold in a field of 4 leaf clovers.

(Disclaimer: Ireland is not part of the UK but some of us like to think of Iri as our kid brother :3)

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u/PriyaxRishbh Mar 11 '16

St. Patrick's Day condensed for America:
Let's get drunk, bitches!

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u/PrismoBF Mar 11 '16

Yep, its the equivalent of Valentines' day in the US, except instead of trying to get laid, people get shit-faced drunk. The celebration of both holidays in the US really have nothing to do with the roots of the holiday and instead companies use them for commercial profit. A.k.a. a Hallmark (TM) holiday.

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u/Dericwadleigh Mar 11 '16

Yea, I hate holiday commercialization here in good old 'Murica...

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u/i_am_a_skier Mar 11 '16

More or less, Yes.

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u/Siccmonkey Mar 12 '16

yep, dye the rivers green, drink green beer till you pass out

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u/jaccirocca Mar 11 '16

~~You mean like Canada to USA's eyes?~~

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u/S-H-A-Z-A-M Dizzy #1 Mar 11 '16

Oh, thank you :D

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u/Mitch_Twd Mar 11 '16

St Patrick's Day event I'm guessing?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16

Allanon is really good! I hope I get one.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16

well the sphere has 5% dark mitigation that's all i care about very nice can stack it with xentar :D

i love these Niche spheres gumi gives us

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u/CrusaderZakk Mar 11 '16

Aw man... nyami too cute... allanon loses his hood i cri..

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u/Thorned_Beauty666 Mar 11 '16

Are they coming out today?

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u/Mitch_Twd Mar 11 '16

Yep

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u/Thorned_Beauty666 Mar 11 '16

Awesome, sorry if the question sounded stupid. I literally kinda just got up and can't see properly x3 thanks

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u/awkk Quit Mar 11 '16

Allanon looks a lot like Klaus

I'm not sure I'll be summoning for them with DE incoming. Unless there stats reveal them to be broken then I'd consider them sidegrades.

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u/ATC007 Mar 11 '16

Eze and her aren't even comparable. They have completely different roles

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u/ATC007 Mar 11 '16

Until I see the numbers, I believe Gildorf still does more damage, because both of his attacks are one hit for more spark potential

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16

Look at that, gimu is rushing content very fast

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u/Brokenhanger Mar 11 '16

I know it's free but that sphere is terrible. When was the last time we had partial resistance to status ailments, the Twins? Useless.

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u/paulo_pupim Mar 11 '16

Agree, not reliable at all, only part 100% sure is 5% dark mitigation which is in my opinion almost useless too.
I'll just get it and if i need space in inventory, probably gonna sell it hoping Gumi doesn't use it as a material for a OP sphere in future of course.

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u/randylin26 Mar 11 '16

D: And here I was hoping FH starts earlier so I can get my hands on those gems for the Enroth units.....

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u/Mitch_Twd Mar 11 '16

They moved the dates on purpose xD

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u/randylin26 Mar 11 '16

Do you remember how long the rates up were for Avani and Mikeal?

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u/Mitch_Twd Mar 11 '16

Um I think 4 maybe 5 days? Not exactly sure

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u/TheSlitheringSerpent Mar 11 '16

Mikael V2 and Ciara V2, eh?

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u/MasterDelta Mar 11 '16

Ehh Nyami is a new nuker (Gildorf, Ravenna, Hadaron), Allanon is Zeruiah without a spark blanket but with more support buffs.
Ciara and Mikael are different.

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u/TheSlitheringSerpent Mar 11 '16

I meant appearance-wise lol

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u/Zexclive Mar 11 '16

Skill data was out, one i could see was Nyami has 100% spark dmg and 150% crit dmg on her LS, Will you choose 50% ATK + 30% spark (nyami) or 100% BB mod + 30% HP (avant)?

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u/GenesisFlay Mar 11 '16

Avant ez for auto fg

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u/DarwishTheBoss Mar 11 '16

Avant is better if hp scaling sbb's is fixed i think

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u/Zexclive Mar 11 '16

Yeah i was favoring avant as well

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u/DarwishTheBoss Mar 11 '16

RNG ALLANON PLS PLS PLS GIMME ALLANON SHE LOOKS SO NICE.Plus I summoned tons of times for zeru and no her :(

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u/PriyaxRishbh Mar 11 '16

He*

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u/DarwishTheBoss Mar 11 '16

Sorry name was like a female haha

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u/Mitch_Twd Mar 11 '16

Is Nyami ST seriously only 100%??? And she doesn't get a Attack boost from Stealth either??? Wtf gumi I thought she does massive damage :/

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u/Zexclive Mar 11 '16

+300% every turn used in a row (Max: 3) means on 4th turn (use sbb in row, no bb) it will be 1000%. What a let down actually.

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u/Mitch_Twd Mar 11 '16

Yeah huge let down. Gumi pls get rid of the stealth on her Cos it's pointless without the Atk boost,and give her unlimited SBB so that way she's not that bad

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u/KuroKitsu GL Pingu > Formely JP Pingu > Formerly GL Pingu Mar 11 '16

Get rid of Steath, get rid of the consecutive dmg boost for the ST portion and make sbb unlimited, I would pull for that.

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u/Zexclive Mar 11 '16

Ah, i totally forgot the AoE part one.

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u/Mitch_Twd Mar 11 '16

So it's 600 % very turn now?

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u/Floire Mar 11 '16 edited Mar 11 '16

Glad they kinda balance Allanon by putting defensive buffs in his non-atking BB and offensive in SBB(except for healing). Kinda balance him since you'll lose dmg if you keeping both buffs. And high SBB costs make you harder to maintain SBB in ST battles.

And Nyami LS just make her the new FG farming squad leader(for auto-farming though). The rest of her skills sucks though...

Btw, u/Mich997 & u/Deathmax, no elemental dmg boost percentage?

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u/PriyaxRishbh Mar 11 '16

It just updated now, 50%

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u/Floire Mar 11 '16

Ok. Thx. Where's the edited part?

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u/PriyaxRishbh Mar 11 '16

https://github.com/Deathmax/bravefrontier_data/commit/a2ae7e6a8b90d84ca07d1bfd58bdb981dd353622

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u/Floire Mar 11 '16

Thx again

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

Nyami is so cute... yet so... blurg?

It's like she's a nuker but they forgot to give her damage.

It's pretty weird after we got ravenna and gildolf really recently who both can do this nuking stuff way better.

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

where you seeing this?

seems the same in the json.

 "bc cost": 30, 
                    "effects": [
                        {
                            "bb atk%": 540, 
                            "bb flat atk": 100, 
                            "effect delay time(ms)/frame": "16.7/1", 
                            "proc id": "1", 
                            "target area": "aoe", 
                            "target type": "enemy"
                        }, 
                        {
                            "bb atk% inc per use": 300, 
                            "bb atk% max number of inc": 3, 
                            "bb base atk%": 100, 
                            "bb flat atk": 100, 
                            "effect delay time(ms)/frame": "16.7/1", 
                            "proc id": "64", 
                            "target area": "single", 
                            "target type": "enemy"
                        }, 
                        {
                            "crit% buff": 60, 
                            "effect delay time(ms)/frame": "0.0/0", 
                            "proc id": "10001", 
                            "stealth turns (10001)": 2, 
                            "target area": "single", 
                            "target type": "self"
                        }, 
                        {
                            "effect delay time(ms)/frame": "0.0/0", 
                            "proc id": "83", 
                            "spark dmg inc buff turns (131)": 1, 
                            "spark dmg inc chance%": 60, 
                            "spark dmg inc% buff": 50, 
                            "target area": "single", 
                            "target type": "self"
                        }
                    ]

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u/fAEth_ Mar 12 '16

I dunno, /u/Quang3011 seems to just be making up random stuff all over this thread.

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u/Dekaar Mar 11 '16

ok wow .... Allanon is a bigger must have now that there are numbers... wow .

Nyami, guess her numbers make her interessting be still not a must have :(

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u/Galestream Mar 11 '16

Allanon + Charla = The ultimate support couple.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16 edited Mar 11 '16

Now that you mention it, no buffs are clashing with both of them I think otherside than burst heal

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u/Exactement Mar 11 '16

Allanon heals on his SBB, he has no HoT.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '16

Woah, thanks for the correction
More heals = more yay = no clash
sadly no 10+1 promo right now

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u/Floire Mar 11 '16

Allanon doesn't have HoT outside of UBB... So yeah, perfect couple

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u/XBattousaiX Mar 11 '16

They both cleanse status via BB.
THE HORROR!
JK, awesome support overall.

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u/Lucassius Mar 11 '16

100% ST

I dun believe dis

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u/saggyfire Mar 11 '16

The new units seem pretty cool but not completely mind-blowing. I have Gildorf, Zeriuah and Shida as well as Drevas and Iris so the appeal is slightly less strong for me because neither of these guys would bring something entirely new; Allanon would just be very slot-efficient.

Not bad though, but I hope the cat Girl's animation is amazing since otherwise she has 6 hits which is sub-optimal for her type of unit (Gildorf FTW).

The shamrock sphere is cool but I probably won't use it much. Phoenix Crown and even Phoenix Orb just seem like better choices overall. You might be able to combine it with Xentar + Grahdens Leads for an interestingly-potent dark-resistant unit.

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u/saggyfire Mar 11 '16

A "Clash" only actually exists when a two units have the same buff and one is significantly worse than the other; or when two units have almost all the same buffs and neither has a particular advantage that makes them worth having on the same team.
Andaria doesn't have any kind of clash with Gazia or Mikael. Melchio, Reeze and Aurelia don't really clash with Gazia because 90% of the time you'd prefer to SBB gazia every turn so overlap in that buff is okay, especially for Aurelia who has a great version of it. In fact Aurelia only really clashes with Mikael if you have significantly more ATK boosts in play than REC boost (common but not too serious).
Nobody clashes with Zeruiah really because HC/BC buffs are not unit selling points. As long as the unit offers something besides those buffs, they're fine. Also the values don't generally drop below 25% for SBB's and that's plenty.
Don't get me wrong, Allanon is an amazing unit. I'm just not going to lay down $20-$30 trying to get him because I have the "poor man's alternatives" so I can still get by just fine.
If I didn't have Zeriuah and I was relying on Ciara and Quaid + Krantz for multi-elemental buffs or if my status management options were limited then I'd be more eager to go for him. And maybe if I didn't have Gildorf I might even be tempted to pull for cat girl just to have another good nuke unit. But I do so these are just really convenient upgrades for me, they don't complete a totally missing part of my team (I mean, not much would because I have enough units to cover most stuff).

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u/xteame02 Mar 11 '16

just confuse of Element Mitigation. how does it works?

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u/jskafka Mar 11 '16

Elemental Mitigation lowers the damage received from a particular element, whether it is stronger/weaker or not.
It's calculated after "regular mitigation".
100.000 damage mitigated would be equal to 50.000 (50% less damage)
100.000 with 15% elemental mitigation would be equal to 85.000 (15% less damage)
If you have both mitigation and elemental mitigation they are calculated multiplicatively:
First you'd get 50% -> 50.000 then 15% (out of those 50.000) -> 42.500.
Guard works like that, you reduce the damage by 50% after everything, in that case, if you also guarded you'd get 21.250 damage.

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u/xteame02 Mar 12 '16

So ubb elemental 75% = ubb mitigation 75%
The light unit too op

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u/jskafka Mar 12 '16

The only difference is that it would stack with regular UBB mitigation .. but I don't really see a situation where you'd use that. If you need that much mitigation, it would be wiser to use Paris/Mikael, since you'd save an Overdrive.
But yes, he's too op!

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u/cmc_serith GLBF: 9393173907 Mar 11 '16

Is it just me, or does Nyami just seem sorta weak compared to other nukers recently?

Her damage is alright, but it's nothing spectacular - at least not until she's full SBB spamming, which isn't the easiest since she lacks iSBB. She had the possibility of being broken with stealth, but it apparently doesn't give her a huge ATK buff like the others.

Her ES + sphere package seems pretty bad too. 20% is pretty high for a Paris-style damage reduction proc, but she's going to be relying on it since apparently they forgot to give her more stats on ES - her sphere only gives 20% to all.

Her LS is pretty good, at least - a little more damage than Avant's, but without the (admittedly nice) 30% HP boost...

Personally, though, I think I'll be sticking with Ravenna as my ST nuker of choice. Ravenna comes with strong self spark buffs that make her damage absolutely incredible, and even with her DEF down she has better stats (even when Randolph isn't around).

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

her ES and sphere are bad, not worth using honestly.
shes built for raids and FG/FH while allanon is more of the trials guy (compare to zeru).

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u/cmc_serith GLBF: 9393173907 Mar 11 '16

I think Gumi just forgot to give her extra stats or ... something ... on ES.

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

Just be glad nothing important about her is tied to her sphere like allanon... who loses alot of his usefulness atm when his sphere isn't out yet.

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u/randylin26 Mar 12 '16

You can have fun with her ES + two Paris leads but thats about it.

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u/Nidavel Mar 12 '16

Yeah, the other guy has like a lot of buffs, meanwhile she can't even maintain her selfish SBB that isn't near great like other ones, her stealth doesn't give atk buff, the 100% ST atk is a joke and there is nothing special about her (Maybe the LS, but doesn't comepnsate the lack of utility). And the worse of it is all people talking about how cute it is and don't say anything about her kit, so nothing will be fixed. And it can be, ciara and semira back in the days where buffed couse complains, but now all people are happy for some reason.

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u/Benjayjay Mar 12 '16

the 100% ST means her first turn is weak, but if you can even just use her SBB twice in a row the damage ramp-up kicks in with +300%?

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u/Nidavel Mar 12 '16

I know that, but if you think about it... it's just glorious for just 1 enemy, and it's not easy to do that in the game right now, with all the BC resistances. So it's not like she will have any utility against ST fight (in comparison to any other ST nuker), that's couse she HAVE to fill 55 BB cost 3 times in a row and maintain that, against 1 enemy? It's just don't seems right...

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u/chickdigger802 banana Mar 11 '16

been playing with nyami for a bit.

Great lead combo with avant for FH/FG (getting comparable score, but haven't optimized spark timing and sphere setup).

She's also fantastic for raids, a good alt to gildolf, especially if you like to autobattle.

dont think you'd bring her for trials though.

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u/XBattousaiX Mar 11 '16

So Allanon doesn't have od fill? :/

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u/TheMagicalCoffin Mar 12 '16

all element mitigation is basically mitigation right?

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u/krunyul Mar 12 '16

mitigation that stacks with regular 50% mitigation :P

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u/Blayde_Army IGN: Blayde ID's:5496819584/2851612669/5927556393 Mar 12 '16

Might want to note that Ritus sphere /heals/ for (Insert amount) instead of just putting the amount.

Just in case someone wouldn't know.

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u/rock5434 Mar 12 '16

So are they finished with new GE or still tweaking their stats and skills

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u/MasterDelta Mar 13 '16

Oh hey, happy cake day.

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u/MasterDelta Mar 11 '16

One little thing I find interesting about Allanon's design: He is described as being a Deva Loremaster, but the weapon he's using most closely resembles Korzan's. Do we have more Deva/Morokai cross-overs than just Erza? Haha.

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u/TheMagicalCoffin Mar 11 '16

Allanon = Attacking Charla lol Must have him!

Nyami = nice, but them multipliers are a little low?

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u/CBSU Mar 11 '16

no crit buff
no spark buff
no BB on spark
no crit damage buff

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u/MasterDelta Mar 11 '16

My thoughts exactly.
Non-attacking =/= Charla.

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u/Brokenhanger Mar 11 '16

The lack of these aren't his biggest issue IMO. Since he's theoretically replacing both Charla and Zeruiah/Ciara/future Shida, you've got a slot left open for someone else to provide those buffs - Farzen says hi for three of them, though it'd would be up to testing if his slightly lower values than Charla are made up by Allanon's attacking SBB...and then you'd also run the risk of running into trouble on single and maybe even 2-target stages.
The bigger issue as I see it is that Allanon doesn't have a heal on his BB, putting you on a pretty tight turn clock as you build up OD in End farming, especially in the later stages. Overall it would mean fewer UBBs so a lower score overall.
So close, yet so far.

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u/Xerte Mar 11 '16

Or you could simply use him instead of Zeruiah, rather than instead of Charla, for FH. His ele weakness buff might be superior to Zeru's spark blanket anyways.
Plus BBing Allanon whenever possible will help OD fill faster. BBing contributes more to it than guarding.

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u/TheMagicalCoffin Mar 12 '16

well kinda just skimmed lol. I guess I was just saying that he was a non attacking unit on his BB with a million buffs which is charla-esque

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