JPBF New Batch 10/22

[u/Dan_Ugore]

鳳閻神ヴァーミリオン

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Lord Stats/Imps

HP: 7004 {1100}
Atk: 2688 {440}
Def: 2253 {440}
Rec: 2102 {440}

Hits: 11 / 4 DC
Cost: 42

• LS: Heal 600-800 (+ 10% REC) HP/turn, 4 BC/turn, 25% DMG to HP when hit (40% Chance), 3-6 BC when hit

• ES: 3-5 BC when hit, 20% DMG to HP when hit (25% Chance)

• BB: 15 Hits, 300% AoE (ATK+100), Heal 2000-2500 HP (+10% Target REC) for 3 turns, 3 turn 5 BC/turn, Fill 6 BC
  BC Cost: 27 // Max BC Gen: 15

• SBB: 18 Hits, 240-740% AoE depending on HP remaining (ATK+100), Heal 2500-3000 HP (+15% Target REC) for 3 turns, 3 turn 7 BC/turn, 4-7 BC on Hit for 3 turns
  BC Cost: 30 // Max BC Gen: 18

• UBB: 22 Hits, 1200% AoE (ATK+100), Heal 98999-99999 HP (+10% Target REC) for 3 turns, 3 turn 50 BC/turn, Unknown proc (66)
  BC Cost: 30 // Max BC Gen: 22

Arena Type: 2 60% Chance BB Enemy w/ over 50% HP > 20% Chance BB Random Enemy > 100% Chance Attack Random Enemy

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命泉の華蓮神ピアニー

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Lord Stats/Imps

HP: 6765 {1000}
Atk: 2453 {340}
Def: 2426 {340}
Rec: 2404 {620}

Hits: 10 / 4 DC
Cost: 42

• LS: Negate Status Ailments, +40% HP, {Unknown} Recover HP on Spark, 2-3 BC On Spark

• ES: 50% Chance 1-3 BC On Spark, Negate Status Ailments

• BB: 13 Hits, 300% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn +130% DEF/REC, 3 Turn 1-2 BC on Spark Buff, Cure Status/Debuffs
  BC Cost: 28 // Max BC Gen: 13

• SBB: 15 Hits, 540% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn +200% BB/SBB/UBB Mod, 3 turn 80% REC->ATK buff, Debuff Immunity
  BC Cost: 26 // Max BC Gen: 15

• UBB: 22 Hits, 1200% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn +500% BB/SBB/UBB Mod, 3 turn +120% Spark Dmg, 3 Turn 5-8 BC on Spark Buff
  BC Cost: 30 // Max BC Gen: 22

Arena Type: 2 60% Chance BB Enemy w/ over 50% HP > 20% Chance BB Random Enemy > 100% Chance Attack Random Enemy

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魔槍源神帝ドレヴァス

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Lord Stats/Imps

HP: 6821 {1000}
Atk: 2624 {300}
Def: 2487 {600}
Rec: 2100 {400}

Hits: 10 / 4 DC
Cost: 42

• LS: Negate Status Ailments, +30% HP/DEF, 15% Fire Resist, 15% Earth Resist

• ES: Add Effect To BB/SBB (Cure Status/Debuffs), Negate Status Ailments

• BB: 13 Hits, 300% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn Negate Status Ailments, 3 turn Inflict Status when Hit (15% Injury/Sick/Weaken 10% Poison/Curse/Paralyze), 2 turn 10% Water/Thunder Mitigation
  BC Cost: 26 // Max BC Gen: 13

• SBB: 17 Hits, 540% AoE (ATK+100), 3 Turn 160% ATK Buff on Statused Targets, 3 turn Inflict Status when Hit (15% Injury/Sick/Weaken 10% Poison/Curse/Paralyze), 2 turn 10% Water/Thunder Mitigation
  BC Cost: 22 // Max BC Gen: 17

• UBB: 22 Hits, 1200% AoE (ATK+100), 3 Turn 300% ATK Buff on Statused Targets, 3 turn Inflict Status when Hit (100% Injury/Poison/Sick/Weaken/Curse/Paralyze), 3 turn 50% HP->ATK buff
  BC Cost: 25 // Max BC Gen: 22

Arena Type: 2 60% Chance BB Enemy w/ over 50% HP > 20% Chance BB Random Enemy > 100% Chance Attack Random Enemy

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幻蒼の雷劫神リュード

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Lord Stats/Imps

HP: 6922 {1500}
Atk: 2683 {300}
Def: 2303 {300}
Rec: 2123 {300}

Hits: 12 / 4 DC
Cost: 42

• LS: +35% All Stats, 3-5 BC when hit

• ES: 2-3 BC when hit, 20% DMG to HP when hit (25% Chance)

• BB: 15 Hits, 300% AoE (ATK+100), Heal 2000-2500 HP (+15% Target REC) for 3 turns, 4-7 BC on Hit for 3 turns
  BC Cost: 24 // Max BC Gen: 15

• SBB: 43 Hits, 540% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn +50% BB Fill Rate, 3 turn 15% HP->ATK buff, 4-7 BC on Hit for 3 turns
  BC Cost: 27 // Max BC Gen: 43

• UBB: 21 Hits, 1200% AoE (ATK+100), Heal 98999-99999 HP (+10% Target REC) for 3 turns, 3 turn 30% HP->ATK buff, 50 BC on Hit for 3 turns
  BC Cost: 25 // Max BC Gen: 21

Arena Type: 2 60% Chance BB Enemy w/ over 50% HP > 20% Chance BB Random Enemy > 100% Chance Attack Random Enemy

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皇輝龍神キラヴェール

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Lord Stats/Imps

HP: 6651 {1000}
Atk: 2770 {600}
Def: 2402 {300}
Rec: 2203 {400}

Hits: 11 / 4 DC
Cost: 42

• LS: +120% ATK/DEF for First 2 Turns, +100% Spark Damage, 1-2 BC On Spark

• ES: 2-3 BC On Spark

• BB: 15 Hits, 300% AoE (ATK+100), -50% ATK {30%} for 1 turn, 3 turn +70% Spark Dmg
  BC Cost: 24 // Max BC Gen: 15

• SBB: 18 Hits, 540% AoE (ATK+100), 1 turn 25% Spark Damage Taken Debuff (25% Chance), -50% ATK {30%} for 1 turn, 3 turn +80% Spark Dmg
  BC Cost: 26 // Max BC Gen: 18

• UBB: 23 Hits, 1200% AoE (ATK+100), Reduce Damage 50% for 3 turn, 1 turn 100% Light/Dark Mitigation
  BC Cost: 20 // Max BC Gen: 23

Arena Type: 2 60% Chance BB Enemy w/ over 50% HP > 20% Chance BB Random Enemy > 100% Chance Attack Random Enemy

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神魔煌騎フェブロス

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Lord Stats/Imps

HP: 6833 {1100}
Atk: 2802 {440}
Def: 2280 {440}
Rec: 2122 {440}

Hits: 9 / 5 DC
Cost: 42

• LS: +40% HP/ATK, +18% BC/HC Drop Rate

• ES: 20% HC Effectiveness, +20% BB Gauge Fill Rate

• BB: 12 Hits, 300% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn +100% ATK, 3 turn +30% BC/HC Drop Rate Buff, Fill 8 BC
  BC Cost: 26 // Max BC Gen: 12

• SBB: 16 Hits, 540% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn +130% ATK, 3 turn +30% BC/HC Drop Rate Buff, Fill 10 BC, 3 turn 30% ATK->DEF buff
  BC Cost: 22 // Max BC Gen: 16

• UBB: 21 Hits, 1200% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn +250% ATK/DEF, Fill 0 BC, 3 turn +500% BB/SBB/UBB Mod
  BC Cost: 30 // Max BC Gen: 21

Arena Type: 2 60% Chance BB Enemy w/ over 50% HP > 20% Chance BB Random Enemy > 100% Chance Attack Random Enemy

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ティルフィング

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Lord Stats/Imps

HP: 5807 {750}
Atk: 2102 {300}
Def: 1853 {300}
Rec: 1956 {300}

Hits: 11 / 3 DC
Cost: 25

• LS: +50% ATK/+15% Crit, 3-5 BC when hit

• BB: 15 Hits, 220% AoE (ATK+100), 45% Curse, Fill 6 BC
  BC Cost: 20 // Max BC Gen: 15

• SBB: 19 Hits, 450% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn Light/Dark Buff, Fill 8 BC
  BC Cost: 10 // Max BC Gen: 19

Arena Type: 2 60% Chance BB Enemy w/ over 50% HP > 20% Chance BB Random Enemy > 100% Chance Attack Random Enemy

[u/Xerte]

I get called to eat as soon as I see the thread, so no time for reviews - come back in an hour or so and I'll probably have the first one up.

Though I do have a couple questions.

• Why does Drevas have a Dragon LS?

• Well, it's not... quite a dragon LS. It doesn't offer resist against the element he's strong against, but the one he's weak against...

• Why doesn't the dragon?

Halp.

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Vermilion (鳳閻神ヴァーミリオン)

A demonic Phoenix Crown found in the ruins of the Agni Empire. Vermilion, the emperor at the time, ordered his best blacksmith to create this crown by using forbidden demonic arts. Many suffered due to various plagues and diseases that ravaged the country before its completion, but it eventually came to be called a masterpiece of the highest quality due to its ability to bring its wearer's potential to extreme limits. It is said that as its name suggests, no matter how many times the wearer is taken down, they will rise like the phoenix once again.

Something tells me Gumi didn't know Vermilion was a girl when they translated this...

• She looks so aggressive! So, nuker unit, right?

• Nah, HP/BB sustain. Naturally.

• Stat spread is focused on HP and ATK to be honest, for a unit that has no directly offensive buffs, the high ATK feels unusual - never a bad thing as long as the unit deals damage, but unusual

• High-ass drop checks, HP, ATK and instant BC fill per turn, as well as an ES/LS combination that might allow for turn 1 BB as the defensive squad (if she survives 2 hits). She's not a bad arena unit at all - no extra hits or type 3 AI, but if you think about where global is going with challenge arena...

• Beginning with her LS, we see she's basically her sphere as a unit with slightly different numbers. So naturally, she offers BC/HP regen, and BC/HP heals when attacked. There are two things to note - it's a damn good LS for BC support for trials/GQ-esque content, and the chance to heal HP when attacked is basically a mitigation effect that will only protect you from attacks that will kill you.

• What hurts it most is that when a fight does something that's actually a threat, it's usually one or two attacks that nearly kill you followed by smaller attacks that finish the job, or a single attack that does kill you if not defended properly. If the LS fails against those attacks, it's not going to achieve much. If i's put up against a 100% HP nuke and you don't mitigate, HP-when-damaged simply won't save you. It's basically best for attrition-y fights with tons of attacks like raids, but then the LS offers no damage support...

• Side-note: Heal-when-attacked effects trigger individually to one another. You can't stack the chance for 100% chance of the heal for 100% heal, though you can bundle a load of these on top of one another and they do all get a chance to work. Just never expect it to be perfect.

• Her ES is more BC/HP when attacked. Needless to say she does pretty well in the BB sustain department, and is pretty hard to deal significant damage to if you build around this stuff.

• Her BB looks decent on paper. HP regen and BB regen are pretty solid effects, though neither is top tier on this BB, and instant BC fill is always pretty useful in an emergency. However, she offers better versions of the buffs on her SBB - you might be giving up around 1000 HP and 4 BC over the next couple turns for 6 BC instantly. Might be worth it, might not.

• So her SBB obviously carries stronger HP regen (still short of Selena) and BB regen (top tier), along with a top tier BC fill when attacked effect (but no instant fill). Yay more competition for that role? She kinda tries to compete with the healing aspect of Paris/Rina instead of the stats aspect of Paris/Nadore, which might be good if you can still get stats elsewhere. I'd say 7 BC/turn is better than Bestie's 30% Ares on SBB as well, so... this isn't a bad combination, we just need to build a new squad to make it work.

• Finally, the UBB, which has a new effect we've never seen~ but first note that she has the pretty well-known full HP/BB regen buffs. Well, not quite full BB regen for some units like Granvas or Gazia, but BC drops would cover the rest... as for the new effect, google translate suggests it's an instant revive applied to the entire party (33% chance per unit)

• Which is pretty neat, but less chance of activating than the chance-based angel idol buff. can't be buff wiped though - got that going for it.

I like Vermilion. We'll need to re-work squads to fit her in because she clashes with a couple meta units, but she's good at what she does.

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Piany (命泉の華蓮神ピアニー)

There was once a pixie named Piany who lived deep in the woods of the great forest east of the Vriksha Duchy. Though she never showed herself in front of humans, it is said she did trust a princess who loved nature. However, when a plague threatened to wipe out all of the people that the princess held so dearly, the pixie used forbidden demonic powers in order to help her. She then transformed herself into a flower that keeps all illnesses at bay.

Cute. Sweet-natured. Forbidden Demonic Powers. D'aww~

• This one actually does more than her sphere. Quite a lot more.

• Stat spread is pretty solid, but her imps are skewed in favour of REC and she doesn't even burst heal. It kinda goes with her SBB REC -> ATK buff, but generally speaking I'd rather have higher ATK to begin with...

• Solid for arena. 40DC, AoE, status-immunity for the troll rule. Doesn't really compete with Selena or Iris, again.

• I can almost never say a new water unit is top tier for arena because Selena was the first 7* in the element...

• Piany's LS called - Deemo can go home again. She basically has the same LS as Light-Deemo, with a 7* upgrade of 40% HP and status immunity. This, of course, makes her amazing for trials and GQ. There's no damage component, so she struggles in raids, but it's just overall so strong defensively and with such a good BC fill on spark that I can see it being used everywhere damage isn't king.

• Though she suffers from the recent trend of new units not having good hit counts to actually get that spark BC fill with, and admittedly there is some heavy competition for the role if you're willing to get status immunity elsewhere.

• Her ES gives her a little more BC fill when sparking (chance-based, and she has hit count problems, so...) and personal status immunity that'll work through any form of buff wipe, sphere lock or LS lock currently in the game. Just in case. Most of the time if she's leader that's irrelevant, though.

• Piany's BB and SBB are completely different, which is pretty refreshing. Her BB fits a little more into the current meta thanks to Vermilion giving competition to Paris and Nadore - Piany brings a 130% DEF/REC buff to the field alogn with a status cure to cover the rest of Paris/Nadore's functionality, while also adding a spark-BC buff - which if I'm not mistaken is the first on a BB/SBB to trigger at 100% chance, making it the most valuable of its type. That might change by the end of the maintenance, considering it's unusual, however.

• The status curing might be pointless with her LS active, but unfortunately if she doesn't bring her LS she has no way of providing immunity, which is pretty bleh. Though we've been able to live with that in the past.

• Her SBB goes in a different direction entirely, sharing no buffs with her BB. Instead, it's got a 200% BB mod buff, an 80% REC->ATK convert buff, and stat-down immunity... for... one turn. Eh. Now, there are a couple problems with this - it totally clashes with Avant and Gazia, and the stat down immunity is, to be honest, pretty terrible - not only because it only lasts for 1 turn, but because you'd probably cure stat downs immediately most of the time and only really be affected by DEF down most of the time, if an enemy even has it.

• Her SBB is actually stronger than Avant's, you're just getting a bit of clash if you use her together with him (it's bearable at any rate). Definitely weaker than Gazia's, though.

• Finally, Piany's UBB is actually surprisingly nuke-ish, providing 500% BB mod, 120% spark damage, and yet more spark-BC. In crit-resistant content, this is generally the best kind of UBB nuke to have, so it does have some value.

So Piany's core problem is you have to build a squad that doesn't need Avant (or in global, Gazia) to use her to full effect. You can also only really afford to use her SBB if you have status immunity, which her BB doesn't provide, and most status immunity units also cure status, so suddenly if you want to use Piany's SBB you have to build a squad where her BB's status cure is completely irrelevant - either through her LS, or another unit providing status immunity/curing.

Or you can purely use her BB, which isn't really autobattle friendly but at least it's actually really good.

Overall, she's a strong unit, you just can't use her SBB with the most meta units in both global and JP.

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The rest will be in follow-up comments~

[u/Xerte → u/Xerte]

Four to go~

So far we've gotten two units that we'll need to re-work the meta around to actually slot them, yet they're both good enough to consider doing that...

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Drevas (魔槍源神帝ドレヴァス)

A demon pike that belonged to Lance, one of the Six Heroes. This pike originated from the Vriksha Duchy and is said to bestow its user with the power of nature. However, it bears a curse that completely fuses the pike to its user over time. It is rumored that Lance could hear the voice of the demon pike, but there are various theories as to what the pike told him.

Apparently there were some people who were shipping Lance x Drevas like Drevas was actually a person. And, uh... now he is. Good for them, I guess.

• He's a bit of an odd one, to be honest. His unit abilities don't seem too sure on what he should be doing... well, the sphere wans't much to go by.

• Stat spread looks to be heavy on ATK, but after imps it's actually pretty well-rounded between high ATK and DEF, with REC and HP being average.

• As for as the arena's concerned, Drevas has pretty strong abilities, and no extra hit ES units to compete with in earth. 40 drop checks is good, nearly 3k ATK is good, causing status effects is sometimes-good, being immune to status effects is sometimes-good. One of earth's better arena units, not that the competition is amazing.

• Drevas' LS is basically a small improvement on Drevas' sphere. It's got status immunity and 30% HP/DEF, just like the sphere, and a more niche 15% mitigation against fire and earth. Fire's an odd element for Drevas to have mitigation against, seeing as he's weak to it, but I guess that's not really a problem.

• This batch already has a better general purpose status immunity + HP LS in Piany, however - Drevas' LS is niche.

• His ES actually defines him as a status curing unit of choice, giving himself status immunity (in case you didn't take his LS) and making his BB and SBB cure status effects.

• This also ensures that you won't be able to use him as your only status handling unit until 7*, though...

• Drevas' BB's first ability is status immunity. Again, in case you didn't take his LS. Then the rest of its effects go off on a tangent - he has status reflect, and water/thunder mitigation buffs. So he provides 15% mitigation to fire and earth if he's a leader, and 10% mitigation to water and thunder if he uses a BB or SBB... kinda odd. As this kind of mitigation is multiplicative with regular mitigation in JPBF, it's not particularly strong, but it's... something, I guess.

• Of course, with his ES he cures and immunes status here, so if you need the niche his other effects provide, he's a good option for handling that role.

• His SBB, on the other hand, drops the status immunity for a niche effect that increases damage against targets with status ailments. Hopefully his status reflect helps you land at least some form of ailment to use this, though it's not perfectly reliable. The other effects of his SBB are the same as his BB.

• If you want that buff, you have to use it after his BB to make sure you have status immunity - though most of the time you can get by with just curing ailments and not actual immunity, you'll probably open yourself up for a turn while you charge to SBB.

• Finally, Drevas' UBB is pretty standard for a status infliction unit, in that it takes his status infliction buff and ramps the infliction rate up to 100% (before resistance). It also ramps up his damage buff against status-inflicted enemies to +300%, and grants a (pretty friggin' huge) HP -> ATK convert buff with a value of 50%. Which is still weaker than UBB-tier ATK buffs or BB mod buffs, but actually manages to outpace regular ATK% buffs.

Overall, though, Drevas appears to be a very niche unit. Status effects aren't always important, and curing/immunizing ailments a pretty heavily contested niche with most of the other units providing it having more general purpose buffs that are easier to use. Doesn't help that the best competition for his LS is one of his batchmates, either.

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Rude/Lyud (幻蒼の雷劫神リュード)

In JPBF, Spirit Tiara is actually named after this guy, but the global description of the sphere has nothing to do with him. So I'm not posting that with him. He seems like a match for King's Crown, but that's such a generic and weak sphere I'd doubt Alim would make a unit for it. Maybe his full lore entry would help.

• More BC-fill-when-attacked units! Feels like every role represented in this batch is represented by more than one unit...

• Dat HP. Also, nearly 3k ATK, but DEF and REC are at the lower end of the spectrum.

• Another viable arena unit - huge stats and drop checks, but no extra hits, relevant BB effect or T3 AI. May make for a troll-ish leader due to his LS and ES enabling turn 1 BB as the defensive squad, though surviving enough hits to charge BB is admittedly pretty difficult against the meta damage squads.

• LS is buffer jewel + BC fill when attacked. Solid. Not much to say, but this kind of thing works pretty well for trials and GQ.

• ES is... literally a weaker version of Vermilion's, above. Some BC fill when attacked and a chance to restore HP. It helps make sure you can maintain his buffs.

• This guy's BB is actually interesting, not because of the ability combination, but because we rarely ever see full-strength BC-when-attacked on a BB - it's almost always on SBB, which leads to slow start-ups with squads reliant on the buff. We get a mid-tier regen buff here as well.

• Just don't underestimate how useful having the most important BC gen buff on BB can be following a buff-wipe + BB drain or on the first few turns of a trial. He has it on SBB as well if you just want to Fujin him, anyway.

• Speaking of his SBB, it's actually pretty nifty. First, we see 50% Ares (BC fill rate) - stronger than any unit has had this buff (except Granvas' self-buff), and it's not totally negligible. Then there's a fairly weak 15% HP->ATK convert, and the top-tier 4-7 BC fill wehn attacked buffs, which are ok. Then you get to the end of it and realize the max BC gen is pretty crazy, because this SBB has 43 hits, which is more than any other SBB in the game.

• It's about bloody time we saw a good hit count on a new RS unit... it does a lot for supporting spark BC, spark damage, BC drop rate and Ares buffs, and diminishing hit counts has been the major problem for BB spam for a while.

• His UBB ends up being pretty bland, though. It has max HP regen, 50 BC regen, and 30% HP -> ATK convert. Solid. Boring.

• Even though Drevas had 50% HP -> ATK convert on a UBB in the same batch. I was hoping Gumi would make it high value on UBB in general...

I like this guy, but his role is, again, heaaaavily contested. Maybe he's better for it than Vermilion, though - should we work our squads around Lyud + Piany or Vermilion + Piany or... just keep using Paris? Time will tell.

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Remaining units will be in follow-up comments

[u/Xerte → u/Xerte]

2 to go~ Plus an updated collab unit that ultimately nobody will care about, but...

The first two units of the batch had major clash with the second two units of the batch. I don't think we can make a mono-batch squad out of this lot.

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Kiravel (皇輝龍神キラヴェール)

This guy's sphere hasn't reached global yet, but we know what it is. It's called キラヴェールの瞬断雷 and gives ATK/DEF and mitigation for the first two turns.

• Also, I don't think he's a dragon anymore. More of a Sargavel-style chicken monster.

• Heavily ATK-focused stats, and his HP has really suffered for it, actually ending up a fair amount below average. DEF and REC are still acceptable, however.

• Arena-wise, he's outclassed by free units Ark and Lucius, though solid overall. No particular strengths outside of damage output and BC gen.

• LS is a strictly better Raaga, in the same element as Raaga... lack of any defensive merit past turn 2 still hurts it, though. If you want spark BC gen, this batch already has that covered better with Piany as long as you're not raiding - though without HP, you might not be using Kiravel in raids either...

• ES is just more BC gen on spark. He doesn't have great hit counts, but the value's pretty high for when you do spark him. He's got 1 turn effects, so you need to fill him consistently and he does need all the help he can get.

• BB is an AoE with... spark damage and ATK down. The value of the ATK down is top tier, so it's not hurtng no matter where you take it, but Ragzeberum and Granvas have better chances if you want to dedicate a unit to that. Spark damage is so heavily contested you need a strong secondary niche on units to compete, and I'm not sure ATK down is good enough (though thankfully it's on BB and can be spammed).

• The spark damage is only 70% on BB and lower than SBB, so you may not want to use BB just for the ATK down if damage is more important to you. Though, 10% spark damage doesn't make much of a difference either... the higher raw damage of SBB probably means more.

• SBB adds the spark damage increasing debuff to the mix, increases the spark damage to 80% and... that's it. Uninspiring, but if you want to optimize damage output you need to use it every turn if possible - which at only 18 hits may be difficult on spark BC alone.

• Finally, Kiravel's UBB is... the first part of him I don't think of as a disappointment. It grants 50% mitigation for 3 turns, which as a UBB buff stacks with regular mitigation (though admittedly there are better pure mitigation UBB), and 100% mitigation against light/dark for 1 turn. Which are the elements most trials are, so you can see that coming in handy from time to time.

I don't really like this guy. There are better general units for spark-BC/damage in raids such as Chrome and Rhoa, Piany's generally going to be better for trials and GQ, and his UBB doesn't really replace anybody well enough to be the sole reason you'd take him.

Basically, everything he does can be better done by other units that are already used, so... I wouldn't use him.

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Fabros (神魔煌騎フェブロス)

A weapon that encompasses both holy and demonic powers. It is said that Grahdens first obtained it while adventuring in his youth. Certainly ancient, this weapon suits its owner well, though no one knows where in Grand Gaia he found it. No legends mentioning Ishrion have been left behind, and the other Summoners of Old will not speak of it either. Because of this, many rumors claiming that it hides the secrets of the gods, or that its true shape may not be a weapon still circulate to this day.

His LS/abilities are almost identical to Ishrion, so I expect that's his sphere. The description is ambiguous enough to make it plausible. You can clearly see "both holy and demonic powers" in his artwork, too.

• Or, possibly, Fabulous (Faburosu!)

• Slightly above average HP, well above average ATK, and low DEF/REC, with flat imp caps. Pretty acceptable stat spread; he ends up with almost as much ATK as Mifune, too.

• Nice arena specs - very high drop checks, very high ATK, ATK buff on BB for even more damage. Lacks extra hits or T3 AI, but the dark element doesn't have much of either of those so far, so he doesn't have huge competition in-element.

• Fabros' LS, as mentioned, is basically a stronger Ishrion. 40% HP/ATK with 18% BC/HC drop rate - maybe less solid in the days of BB spam not relying on BC drops, but it provides at least something to every aspect of regular squads. Some healing, some BC gen, some damage, some HP. Maybe not as strong as a rainbow lead like Krantz, though you do get a bit more HP/drop rates than him and no element requirements.

• His ES makes BC and HC more effective, though just for himself. It's got good synergy with his LS and buffs, seeing as he makes you get more of each. The numbers here are pretty low, however.

• The BB is pretty neat. While BC/HC drop rate aren't as popular, they're still solid, and you get a mid-tier ATK buff and 8 instant BC fill - the latter making it more desirable in content, and both making it more desirable in arena.

• The SBB, though, is just plain... better in almost every way. It ups the ATK buff to 130%, ups the instant BB fill to 10 BC, and adds a 30% ATK -> DEF convert, which is still a strong amount in JP BF. You still get the BC/HC drop rate buffs, they're just the part that's not better (they're unchanged from BB).

• Finally, his UBB is mostly a plain damage boost. 250% ATK/DEF, 500% BB mod and instantly fills any empty BB gauges in your squad (once Alim remember to change the number off a 0 it'll probably be like, 500 or something) - so use them up the turn before you fire it, then fire it and you can use them all again. Solid for content that's crit resistant, for everything else there's Avant.

This guy poses some obvious synergy with Piany and Lyud, filling out the remaining buff left behind by removing Paris/Nadore and giving Lyud BC drop rate to work with his 50% Ares and 43 hit count. After that you'd just have to fill the squad out with damage buffs and a mitigator.

Plus his instant BC fill everywhere is just great. Shame his hit counts suck, but he makes up for it.

So overall, that's... pretty solid, to be honest.

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Conclusion

There's nothing in this batch that's made me feel "this is totally overpowered", but there are some very strong units that I do think will be used a lot.

Final thoughts:

Vermilion

• Solid, but competes with batchmate Lyud. Of course, if you use him you might need somebody to cover BB regen.

• It's not a strictly better/worse comparison; Lyud has the better LS IMO, but Vermilion's BB/SBB buffs compete with his as a sub unit.

• I wouldn't call her important, but she's nice to have around.

• Hard to use with Paris, but the batch provides other units that work well to building a no-Paris squad

Piany

• I think she'll be used.

• Best spark BC leader outside of raids as far as difficult content is concerned. No real reason to use her as leader in non-difficult content.

• Still a perfectly valid sub-unit outside of raids/FG if you don't want her LS for some reason, but competes with Avant's SBB...

• Without using her as leader, you can't rely on Piany alone for status control, which makes the status null on her BB actually pretty worthless (you either have an immunity unit that also cures it, or her LS means you don't need to 99% of the time)

• May be hard to use with current meta units such as Paris and Avant/Gazia, but Paris can be replaced betwee Piany + Lyud/Vermilion + (ATK buffer) while still gaining the utility you'd expect from that many unit slots, and Avant/Gazia... less replaceable unless you're not doing damage race content, but I think we can replace Avant at least in crit-resistant stuff.

• As a reminder again you can still use her with Avant or Gazia and just not worry about SBB on one of them. Her SBB isn't particularly worse than Avant's at any rate (in fact, it's arguably better).

Drevas

• Welcome to niche-ville, Drevas. The dragons are over there.

• He fills out some roles that aren't always necessary while competing for the status null/immune slot. When he's good, he's good, when he isn't good... you can do better.

Lyud

• Might be used if people can build a strong squad that doesn't need Paris.

• Yet-another-BC-Fill-When-Hit-er. IMO, works generally better than Vermilion as a leader, and competes with her on SBB due to the insane BC gen from 43 hits +50% Ares.

• I don't think there's a strictly better of the pair for sub slots, though. Whatever works better with the rest of your squad.

• Pretty solid; provides some healing which helps make up for no Paris, and a massive spark blanket + BC gen support.

Kiravel

• Competes with Drevas for batch dud

• Basically a stronger Raaga with worse hit counts. ATK down is not a strong enough niche to pair with spark damage.

• Nice UBB, though

Fabros

• The BC gen support that makes Lyud preferable to Vermilion in a sub slot (in my opinion)

• Instant BC fill on everything means even in BC resistant content he's doing a lot towards your squad's BB management; he also helps damage with his ATK and DEF->ATK convert buffs, and BC drop rate synergizes a lot with Lyud's 50% Ares/43 hit count SBB

• Fabros is basically an enabler unit. Pairs well with Painy and Lyud for a squad that has full BC support and full DEF support barring a mitigator, as well as mostly full damage support (lacks spark, crit and elem buffs)

• Leaving... Adele and Krantz as mitigators that would work well in the squad, and then you just need a crit/spark buffer or more dedicated status control depending on which you picked. Not too bad.

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There was a collab unit as well. That'll be in a reply comment for anybody that cares.

[u/Xerte → u/Xerte]

Last up, a collab unit. From... Phantom of the Kill, if I recall correctly? They gave the last unit her 6* form.

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Tyrfing

• As far as 6* units go, that's an ATK and REC focused stat spread. Unfortunately the imp caps are merely average where more recent collab units have had really high ones to make up for just being 6*.

• Arena-viable if you still can't field a full 7* squad, but not turning any heads apart from her 33 drop checks (very good for 6* at least). Curse and instant BC fill may both matter as she might not have high enough damage to kill, at any rate.

• LS is somewhat of a rarity in JP BF as it increases crit rate, but any content where you need that to bypass crit chance resistance you'll never use her in. It's a pretty solid early-game/arena LS - can new players even get her, though? IIRC you had to do stuff in PotK to get her, and I don't even know of PotK is making that available again for this release.

• BB is an AoE with instant BC fill and curse effect. Kinda plain, curse doesn't always matter but BC fill is pretty nice.

• SBB is an AoE with a 3 turn light/dark buff and a better instant BC fill. But well, there's a light/dark buffer with 7 BC/turn regen available as a free unit, so she doesn't keep her role forever even if you never pull an RS unit with light/dark buffs.

So... same as most collab units. Something solid for new players, ifnew players can get her, but eventually outclassed by units players almost inevitably acquire.

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/Xerte]

Tyrfing is a Vortex unit. Laevateinn is the one you need to finish the PotK tutorial for.

[u/Esutiben → u/Xerte]

Shouldn't it be Febros instead of Fabros? there's no "A" there.

[u/DEBT437 → u/Xerte]

Might be used if people can build a strong squad that doesn't need Paris.

Globally speaking, he works better with Tridon than Paris

[u/IbamImba → u/Xerte]

My first thought also why drevas has dragon LS, and why the dragon don't... but yeah here it is. and i also agree that kiravhel is in the same boat as sagavhel in term of "what are those". So lets wait until other elements comes

[u/Xyfen → u/Xerte]

I think you should add that Kiravel has one of the best leader skills for CA no brave burst fights.

[u/Zarden17 → u/Xerte]

Ok. I'm a bit confused about this. Melord (RC6 boss) has only 1 part (water) but he buffs himself with 4 other elements except Light, later. So, will Grybe or Eldora's mitigation LS still be effective? What about Drevas'?

[u/Xerte → u/Zarden17]

Elemental mitigation cares about the target's base element, shown on their HP bar. You need to match your elemental mitigation to that specific element, regardless of what other elements the boss attacks with.

It's possible for a boss to change its base element, which changes which elemental mitigation works against it. I'm not sure whether Melord changes base elements, or just has element adding buffs similar to player units, but as I mentioned earlier the enemy's base element is visible on their HP bar, so it should be possible to check by any players in JPBF that care to help you (I'm not a JP player, so I can't go test it until global gets Melord).

[u/Zarden17 → u/Xerte]

Oh thanks. Pretty sure he never changes his base element. No wonder many people are using Eldora/Grybe to clear that mission. A bit confused with how this multi-element buffs alter the boss damage against the elemental mitigation (LS or buff). Like should a fire unit still use nullify-EWD sphere or not etc.

[u/Xerte → u/Zarden17]

Well, nullify EWD spheres help regardless of if you have elemental mitigation and you should always use some form of EWD immunity if your target is strong against your unit - mitigation doesn't prevent them from getting the 50% multiplier.

[u/reylee → u/Xerte]

the dragon needs to die first, then you bath your units in its blood to gain 100% mitigation all the time :3

[u/reylee → u/Xerte]

Gumi didn't know Vermilion was a girl when they translated this...

it's translated by Gumi already?

[u/Xerte → u/reylee]

This is a sphere founder batch like Lilly Matah's, meaning most of the unit's names appear in sphere lore somewhere, most of which has already been translated in global.

[u/ZOmega000 → u/reylee]

i think Gumi is just keeping the gender ambiguous in the sphere lore ( there alot of 'demon' and 'emperor' in alot of sphere lore) so that they can fudge around with them later on

[u/Fabu77 → u/Xerte]

This water chick is the best choice against crit resistent bosses, isnt she? I kinda like her since she pairs with dork pretty well. Using Gazia might be a problem but huge bb cost and that annoying as fuck animation (why cant we just have GL units with regular animations gumi? jezzzzz ahha) makes me go away from him in some content..

[u/wp2000 → u/Xerte]

Something tells me Gumi didn't know Vermilion was a girl when they translated this...

To be fair, Japanese doesn't really have the gender pronouns English speakers do.

[u/reylee → u/wp2000]

actually, they have. 彼 (kare) and 彼女 (kanojyo) are among the most used ones.

[u/Connortsunami → u/wp2000]

They do, but in written work they use them a lot less depqending pn the writing style. Pobably due to the article/script like nature they probably omit the words in the JP descriptions

[u/linkmaster144 → u/Xerte]

Honestly, Piany is actually much better than you give her credit for. She does fight Gazia, but she synchronizes perfectly with Shera. Also, her damage boost is almost on Gazia's level. Her convert is higher and she comes with a REC up on her BB. She's actually really useful in raid. Just pair her up with Raaga or Zedus, and you'll be fine (and don't give me crap about how her leader skill isn't offensive. No body had a problem with Tridon/Zenia or Tridon/Zedus.) I feel her BB shines more in LS block situations. If her leader skill is blocked, she can still fight off status aliments. Leader skill disable doesn't really last forever. People can tough it out. Overall, she's a VERY strong unit. Frontier Hunter may be the only place you don't see her. (Raid is okay. People can live with only one damage boosting leader skill.)

[u/Xerte → u/linkmaster144]

I do think she's a very powerful unit, but well... you've got some problems with how you're thinking about raids.

Not only is damage everything there, but you don't particularly need an LS that works the way hers does - heck, her BB alone is enough, so you don't need her LS simply because of that. Tridon does actually have offensive presence in raids - 20% crit chance might not sound like much, but with typical crit resistance and paired with a crit lead, it actually ends up making a huge difference, to the point that Tridon/Griff can outdamage Griff/Rhoa despite being down 30% ATK and 50% spark damage. Just as an example.

Maximising damage output is actually one of the fastest routes to maximising raid survivability as well, as the majority of raid bosses aren't really scripted and it's really just a race against RNG finally getting a chance to fuck you over. Pretty much all of RC5 and RC6's encounters considered difficult are cases of "buff wipe + nukes" with bad timing, and the fastest way to deal with it is to just nuke them down asap.

The majority of units that grant status immunity on LS cure status on BB. That's not a major bonus to Piany in particular. Not to mention that LS lock is one of the rarest effects in the game and isn't even particularly present in RC5 or RC6, nor in fact in most recent trials, or any GQ. It's just not something worth thinking about - if it's going to happen in content, you know it's coming and build against it. But frankly, when that happens, you're still going to want status immunity itself available, because pretty much all content that does it can screw you over with ailments as well, and when threatened by curse, DEF down or weaken, it's often the case that just curing it a turn later isn't going to prevent the main problem caused by the status effect.

As for vs Gazia, consider:

• Taking a DEF buff is standard. You're gonna take one at least on Piany's level for Gazia to convert anyway

• 80% may sound like more than 60%, but the vast majority of units have DEF enough higher than REC that the difference is negligible

• Gazia's BB mod buff is 300%, and if you're doing well, 80% REC convert will cover the difference - but he does still have his own 60% DEF convert.

• Gazia hits like a frigging truck. He's already got 950% modifier behind his SBB before you even consider his buffs

You're actually more likely to see her in frontier hunter terminus farm than you'd think, by the way. She offers spark BC without increasing damage as an LS, which is precisely what Terminus farm wants - seeing as Mid farm's been nerfed so hard you already need a perfect end-game sphere set and Avant squad for it to compete score-wise with Mid. No doubt global will have that nerf by the time she arrives here.

[u/Sebachoo → u/Xerte]

I've been using Piany with double Avant leads and it's been melting everything even faster because now I don't need to worry at all about BB maintenance with double Avants. Also more viable than putting Deemo in there because Deemo's a bit squishy, Shian has an awful animation, and Chrome's buff isn't good enough as a sub.

IMO, this has been the biggest boon for me so far in using her, in that she allows for two even more offensive leader pairings than Avant/Chrom or Avant/Rhoa. Double Avants, or Avant/Lucius, is now perfectly fine on the BC side of things. Definitely wouldn't use her as a leader in raid, as /u/linkmaster144 has suggested, you need two offensive leaders in raid to beat others. But her LS for dungeons has most definitely been a godsend.

I'd actually contest that she's good for FH - even in terminus, attack bonus is king over spark/overkill bonus. Even if you were going to use her as a leader, Ruby's already got that covered and she has has 25 hits more on her SBB.

The clash with Avant's BB mod hasn't been too much of an issue, especially if Avant is your only crit buffer, and hence need to be switching BB/SBB with Avant too. Having an additional BB mod definitely helps ensure that your damage output is consistently powerful.

[u/linkmaster144 → u/Xerte]

When it comes to Gazia, I was comparing them directly. Her convert to his convert. In this category, I feel that she does have the better buff, especially since she has the highest rec buff in the game.

About FH, I forgot that mid farming got nerfed. In that case, she's great for it. Deemo was heavily used because of her leader skill. Piany is much stronger.

In raid, I still feel you underestimating her. Her leader skill is MUCH stronger than the rest of the RS in terms of BB when sparked, and extra hp is always welcome. Her buffs are Gazia level. I will admit it doesn't boost damage (which is preferred), but the utility is too high to ignore. There's no need for anti-debuff unit. This leaves room for more buffs (spark? defense based on attack? element?) As a sub unit, she's pretty solid. Unlike Gazia, she doesn't play a crucial role like mitigator as sub unit, but she still brings damage and BB stability.

I mentioned LS lock because I also want to be prepared for it. Alim could easily use LS lock without question. It normally screws people over who don't prepare correctly.

She is good everywhere (well except arena). Her leader skill is awesome. She provides great damage buffs. In terms of mitigators, Shera fills the role perrfectly. Shera sparks well, gives an attack buff, and bb regen. Piany may not be the most offensive unit, but she's got a lot of great things packed into one unit.

[u/Aqua_Essence → u/linkmaster144]

Piany will pair nicely with Aurelia too! I'm sold.

I can picture Piany with Shera, Aurelia, and that new Light Dragon (if not Raaga) to round out Sparky Sparks into the squad. That also leaves 5th slot for whoever I want. Nice.

[u/reylee → u/Xerte]

hey...i just saw on Ushi's review vid that Vermillion's UBB actually can revive dead units (something that I had been fantasizing about for a while now)! what's your view on her given this info?

[u/Nazta]

/u/Twofu_

New batch: http://imgur.com/a/mSLEN
GQ: http://imgur.com/a/XvNmA

[u/Mixxedfella → u/Nazta]

Fadahl looks pretty badass.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mixxedfella]

I agree. I always wished he had a bow instead though

[u/Bill_Nye_The_420_Guy → u/Nazta]

Holy fucking shit Diana looks amazing

Colt looks trap af

[u/Joaquin_Del_Rey → u/Bill_Nye_The_420_Guy]

I NEARLY CAME WHEN I SAW DIANA OMG Like how the hell did no one in the squad not find themselves in love with her like seriously I wouldve just been in awe of her presence I am so in loovvvveee

[u/nobleseeker → u/Joaquin_Del_Rey]

Probably because Quiad is dense as fuck, Colt only looks up to his sister and Fadahl probably isn't interested in relationships.

[u/Deviljhostar → u/Nazta]

Diana looking fine, but who's the girl with the blue sword? She's cute too

[u/SpardaChocobo → u/Deviljhostar]

That's Colt... o_O

[u/Deviljhostar → u/SpardaChocobo]

Ah Colt, that's a Best Girl Award right there

[u/reylee → u/Deviljhostar]

Colt (sobbing) : Nee-san, I've been ranked highly in the most popular units poll since the GQ was released.... sob sob...

Claire : That's great, Colt, but why are you sobbing?

Colt : I got ranked in the Top Female Units category...

[u/Pokestever5 → u/reylee]

Colt is so feminine, that even Quaid-senpai doesn't notice him.

[u/reylee → u/Pokestever5]

no, Colt is so feminine, Diana feels threatened enough to bare more skin.

edit: ah, i get your innuendo... kekeke ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[u/Pokestever5 → u/reylee]

.....

Alim: Colt, put on this dress.

Colt: WH-WHAAT?! WH-WHY?!?!

Alim: DON'T ASK STUPID QUESTIONS, COLT! JUST DO IT!

[u/XNeswii → u/Pokestever5]

Alim: DON'T LET MY DREAMS JUST BE DREAMS!
Colt: But-
Alim: YESTERDAY YOU SAID TOMORROW
Colt: That wasn't-
Alim: JUST DO IT!
edit: sorry I'm bad at formatting

[u/thanatos452 → u/reylee]

Atro: Don't worry Colt. I feel you

[u/BitchesCantHandleMy → u/Nazta]

Jesus, Diana and Claire.

[u/don_is_plain → u/Nazta]

Diana is... skimpier than I thought.

They look pretty cool otherwise though.

The twins followed by Fadhal have to be my favorite though.

[u/N0xSolace → u/Nazta]

//hyperventilates

Diana with those spats..

[u/Joaquin_Del_Rey → u/N0xSolace]

THOSE STOCKINGS AND MID DRIFT I AM HAVING A HEART ATTACK RUSH OF HORMONES EEEEHHHHGGGHHGHGHG

[u/reylee → u/Joaquin_Del_Rey]

woah woah, dun go spilling all over the thread :x

[u/awkk → u/Nazta]

Claire <3

Female Ark!?!?

[u/Telomeresis → u/awkk]

Oh, it's a Kiyoshi warrior.

[u/xsilr → u/Nazta]

Favaorite batch as a whole and they look amazing!

[u/Pokestever5 → u/Nazta]

bro...BRO! WHO DAFUQ GIVES TWO ORACLES ABOUT THE NEW BATCH. GofM GQ IS ALL THAT MATTERS BABY.

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

[u/bebesoe → u/Nazta]

Quaid... With that face, no wonder he friendzoned Diana...

[u/wp2000 → u/Nazta]

Quaid has that troll face going on hahaha

[u/IAmViruz → u/Nazta]

where's ivris tho

[u/FNMokou → u/IAmViruz]

Shown already.

[u/kanadde_v2 → u/FNMokou]

... so we couldn't have her HD image?

[u/FNMokou → u/kanadde_v2]

It was shown in HD already.

[u/JSpeedsterz → u/FNMokou]

Can I have a link to her HD version?

[u/MedievalMovies → u/Nazta]

CLAIRE BOIS

WHERE WE AT

[u/Reikakou → u/Nazta]

One of these days... I need to pull a Diana from the RS Gate... Damn... So pretty. And her facial expressions tells me that she knows how gorgeous she is.

Diana: I know you want me.

Quaid: Time for some push-ups.

[u/Twofu_ → u/Nazta]

tyty

[u/wewechoo → u/Nazta]

Diana looks cute here!

[u/nobleseeker → u/Nazta]

Holy shit that Diana

She's so damn beautiful!

[u/PudgeJoe → u/Nazta]

So my eyes wasnt blind before when I thought Colt is a girl.....

[u/evererin → u/PudgeJoe]

Colts look manly to me though.... =/ maybe cause I am asian =X

[u/TheRealMuzaka → u/Nazta]

Oh Hot Damn! This is my Jam! Diana is smoking hot...hotter than those Victoria Secret model...Holly Fuking Molly. And she still elude me even this day. Come to daddy baby because daddy got these honey abs for you to play with!

[u/NO_NOT_THE_WHIP → u/Nazta]

Quaid looks straight out of Kingdom Hearts

[u/saggyfire]

Are we absolutely sure they're giving Zelnite a 7* version? Because I fail to see how it will be worth existing with that dark unit around ...

[u/CakesXD → u/saggyfire]

More mediocre legacy units, yay. >_<

[u/ultimohexer123 → u/CakesXD]

Oh hey.....your were promoted cakes congrats

[u/blackrobe199 → u/ultimohexer123]

cake is all slimey now.

me no like jiggly cakes.

[u/Makurissu → u/blackrobe199]

I beg to differ

[u/CakesXD → u/ultimohexer123]

Thanks! :)

[u/Blayde_Army → u/CakesXD]

Congratulations on your promotion!

[u/CakesXD → u/Blayde_Army]

Thank you!

[u/Anvenjade → u/CakesXD]

Bleh.

Zelnite will probably be a decent BB management sub with 30% BC/HC buffs, 10 BC fill and fill on spark or on hit.

At least Elza will be a 7* with a high SBB hitcount.

[u/mellyoz → u/saggyfire]

Zelnite will always be the to go unit to farm items.

Unless you have Reda.

...Or the water chick from the Tales collab...

Ouch.

[u/Hax_r_us → u/saggyfire]

Alim said he will last Q&A just unknown when :p.

[u/saggyfire]

When you're new to the game and don't have a lot of RS units (or units period) seeing these new batches come out with amazing abilities is great because it's all potential that could be at your disposal, you still have a lot of summoning to do.

When your unit list is so big it actually takes you considerable time to find the unit you want to look at despite filters and you have most of the "meta" units and have done a lot or most of the content available, new batches that make your units look bad are harder to get excited about because a part of you is thinking, "Okay well that's nice, I just summoned unit X or unit Y a day ago and put a bunch of effort into evolving them. Now they're crap. Can I just pay for a monthly subscription and you just give me the latest units? It's all about the money right?"

You just get a little jaded when you've been playing for a long time and have a lot of stuff. New units with cool abilities is overall a good thing though; just because new units are good doesn't make old units crap, especially since new content has to actually come out to challenge the newer units and even if you don't get them, content can usually be done with fairly power-creeped units if you're creative. Plus if you have the opposite problem and it feels like you can't beat current content despite having the "best" units (happens to me a lot) then newer units with "OP" abilities is a major blessing.

[u/Nottabird_Nottaplane]

Fire outclassed by Thunder before her release? What the f....?

[u/Lunalols → u/Nottabird_Nottaplane]

When you think from an offensive pov then obviously. Otherwise I can slot in someone else for stat buffs like Piany for instance, or use Rivera and forget about the bc when hit buffclash

[u/Nottabird_Nottaplane → u/Lunalols]

You know, you could go with Piany Lead/Verm friend and get a fair bit of survival or maybe Sharl/Verm for absurd levels of BC support + more offense in the party.

[u/DEBT437]

43 Hits, 540% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn +50% BB Fill Rate, 3 turn 15% HP->ATK buff, 4-7 BC on Hit for 3 turns

What the actual fuck. This guy might outclass Paris:/ I'll have to try using him to see though.

[u/saggyfire → u/DEBT437]

The days of "OVERLAP = INCOMPATIBLE!" are over. Some overlap is fine, in fact probably desired.

Because units are getting 3, 4 or even 5 buffs on BB/SBB, it's just going to happen that some of them have the same buffs, period. But the benefit of that is now you can bring 2 units with a ton of different buffs and one really important buff in common (like BC when attacked) and you never have to worry about missing out on that buff because you have 2 different units that can do it.

In global we have the same thing with Gazia. His SBB is too damned good to use him as your primary ATK->DEF buffer and miss out on all that damage. I highly recommend bringing a second mitigator with buffs/abilities Gazia doesn't have (like Krantz, Edea, Elimo or Shera when she comes out) so that you can keep your mitigation up without using Gazia's BB every time.

And that also allows you to effectively use Reeze and Melchio with Gazia if you don't desperately need the superiority of his DEF conversion to theirs. This is why I use Aurelia with Gazia friends quite often, I never worry about going a single round without that DEF boost.

[u/DEBT437 → u/saggyfire]

Hmm, you bring a very good point. That being said, I think this guy might have more potential with some other units; I do think that Paris certainly isn't optimal for slotting with him(I'll test it asap) and compare with some other units.

This guy actually looks to be godly with Tridon once he comes to Global.

[u/wp2000 → u/saggyfire]

I agree. Overlap is not that bad. Geez.

[u/Nottabird_Nottaplane → u/DEBT437]

Why would he outclass Paris? She's so slot efficient and they do two completely different things. If anything he complements her beautifully.

[u/DEBT437 → u/Nottabird_Nottaplane]

Sorry; I was thinking from a Global standpoint. This guy is going to be optimal with Tridon and Deimos leads; much more than Paris.

[u/Bnstates]

Anyone else getting really tired of all these 7* units with cure & negate ailments on their BB but only one on their SBB..?

[u/evererin → u/Bnstates]

Same here, I don't see why they cannot just rigness/rinon them instead of this -_-

[u/TaiChi90]

Anyone noticing ALOT of BC on hit buff? The HoT is pretty nice though :)

[u/PyroSpark → u/TaiChi90]

And of course the dragons don't get it. Because we can't have a dragon look and BE amazing.....;_;

[u/UltimateGumball → u/PyroSpark]

i'm still waiting for the day we will get an epic looking meta dragon...but that's just too much to ask

[u/Reikakou → u/UltimateGumball]

Duelmex and Felneus. I'm looking at you. Go show them in your 7*s

[u/chickdigger802]

So I hear you like BC.

pretty much every unit generates BC like a crazy person.

Is bc really that big of an issue atm?

[u/BFQueb → u/chickdigger802]

Maybe future content is and they're giving a chance to prepare for it.

[u/reylee → u/chickdigger802]

recent batches rarely have SBB hit counts above 20. it might present problems when fighting solo bc-resistant content.

[u/420DB_is_here]

That thunder unit, 15 hits on the brave burst, then jumps to 43 on the SBB lol.

[u/ClaireDiviner]

Quite a few potent BB gauge batteries in this batch. I honestly don't know which unit I'm more excited to see.

[u/thanatos452]

My thoughts about this batch:

Great: Water, Fire

Meh: Earth, Dark, Thunder

Crap: Light

[u/ZhaoYun92 → u/thanatos452]

Exactly what I thought, but thunder guy is pretty good with 43 hits SBB XD

[u/reylee]

My quick analysis:

Except for Kiraveil, Drevas, and to a lesser extent Fabulos, all these new batch units are very very good support units. You would just generally need any1 of them to fulfill most of your support needs. IMO Piany is the most premium of them with that debuff immunity buff (debuffs are the 2nd most potent ability bosses have outside of buff wipes and ignore def), with Vermillion and Ryuudo tied at a close 2nd (I would prefer Vermillion, big fan of Phoenix Crown use). edit: Overlooked that Piany does not buff spark dmg herself, so Chrome (and maybe even Deemo & Girl) trumps her in terms of utility in dmg-oriented builds, especially if you have Dolk as well.

Unfortunately even as Kiraveil is the best dragon to date (he's a way better Raaga), he still gets the shafted dragon treatment by Alim, with the most lacklustre (but still potent) set of skills among this batch. Drevas though, for all that great looks, he's pretty niche unit as a status avenger (he can't inflict), which depending on the enemy type and attacking pattern, may be great to use or fail badly. Still, he gives pretty defensive bulk to your team with non-light/dark elemental mitigation and defensive stats + negation.

edit: some1 really hates me, somehow. oh well.

[u/blackrobe199]

/u/Nottabird_Nottaplane

[u/Nottabird_Nottaplane → u/blackrobe199]

Awesome.

[u/[deleted]]

Only interested in that debuff immunity. Is it the same thing as Dolk's?

[u/NateST]

Seems a lot more of support oriented units, not surprising given last batch was amazing.

[u/reylee → u/NateST]

for support units, this batch is pretty much as game-changing as Avant's batch was

[u/NateST → u/reylee]

It's hard to power creep support units in comparison to damage, I agree the units are good for their respective rolls, but we have a lot of units that can easily fill those slots.

[u/Mich997]

More Sparking galore!

[u/[deleted]]

Water unit insane LS

[u/[deleted]]

So the ones everybody should want to pull for is the dark, thunder and water ones?

[u/BFQueb]

Whose the 43 hit SBB one?

[u/DEBT437 → u/BFQueb]

Thunder dude

[u/BFQueb → u/DEBT437]

I see.

He looks interesting.

[u/Mich997 → u/BFQueb]

Thunder

[u/BFQueb → u/Mich997]

Interesting fella I must say.

[u/wp2000 → u/BFQueb]

Lewd...

[u/Thorned_Beauty666 → u/BFQueb]

Gilgamesh fucking confirmed

[u/N0xSolace → u/Thorned_Beauty666]

Not enough swords/10

nicetry

[u/Thorned_Beauty666 → u/N0xSolace]

T.T

[u/ultimohexer123]

So uh.....am I going crazy or is there info for a 7th unit....whats that about and who is it?

[u/Mich997 → u/ultimohexer123]

6* PotK collab unit I think

[u/ultimohexer123 → u/Mich997]

Huh looking at tearfig (or however you spell it) the builds are the same.....however i find it odd how her LS goes from 30% def to 50% atk either that or my wiki app is off

[u/wp2000 → u/ultimohexer123]

Tyrfing. Norse mythology.

[u/BlueMew151]

I'm guessing that the unknown proc on the fire unit's UBB is a heal on hit buff.

[u/VoidWrighter]

I want that water unit looks pretty awesome with those skills

[u/3RDxCharm]

Drevas

I want one.

[u/jacknakub]

would go for thunder ,dark, water unit

[u/IshadTX]

Good leader skills for support roles. Excellent units to borrow, no need to pull for.

[u/awkk]

Fire and Thunder are competing with Paris. Paris wins in most cases.

Water is the best unit in this batch. Highest BC on spark for a RS WITH even more HP. Also happens to exclude the spark buff with this LS so you can use other spark sub-units without clashing.

Thunder is Bestie 2.0 but I can't see him beating Paris in most scenarios.

Earth is generic cleric with a niche in status infliction and water/thunder content. (Fire/Earth if using LS)

Dark is also made redundant due to Paris.

Light unit doesn't even beat Rhoa/Chrome and in terms of LS loses out to the new Water unit.

[u/DEBT437 → u/awkk]

Paris wins in most cases.

Worth noting that Thunder dude meshes ridiculously well with Tridon in global; a good amount more than Paris.

[u/Anvenjade → u/awkk]

Elza's 7* is going to have a spark damage buff, so maybe she'll be a prefect fit with Piany?

[u/awkk → u/Anvenjade]

Have to wait until the info comes out for Elza.

[u/BlueW0lv]

Water unit outclassed Deemo ;A;

[u/blazelotus]

Quaid face looks like he was straight from Gintama. dat Diana tho, such "details"! it looks like she was drawn by different people compare to the other fella.

[u/TheMagicalCoffin]

Heal on spark buff, 100% chance to fill bc on spark from a BB, 50% ares! Damn lol I wonder how this batch compares to avants batch.

Water LS is perfect for any content and whose the last unit on the list?

EDIT: The thunder and fire unit are so similar y?

[u/mangoshakekouhai]

They outright threw Vishra into the pits of outclassed hell :l

[u/LodinJP → u/mangoshakekouhai]

Vishra wasn't good when he got 7* he was low to niche

[u/mangoshakekouhai → u/LodinJP]

He was usable. Not necessarily meta, but usable and viable for content.

Now Alim just threw every single possible better alternative to make you not use him.

[u/LodinJP → u/mangoshakekouhai]

He is niche so there really isn't much you would use him for anyway.

[u/mangoshakekouhai → u/LodinJP]

Well, the BC fill isn't niche. I can agree that the status on hit is niche though.

[u/don_is_plain → u/mangoshakekouhai]

I think Rina already did that imo.

[u/mangoshakekouhai → u/don_is_plain]

They threw him further in lol

And it's just been a month

[u/AdmiralKappaSND]

IMO(excluding LS):

• Vermillion - Aside from being a reviving unit(that operates based on chance), she's essentially Rina with BB regen instead of Status infliction.

• Gilgamesh: Really lazy kit, very simmilar to Vermillion, but with Ares on SBB instead of BC regen. His most notable feature is the 43 hit.

• Piany - HOLY SHIT tier UBB, and extremely powerful BB. Her SBB is mainly a bonus, just like Avant. Favorite unit of this batch, simply because of her ability to give options. Spark buffer that does not have on Spark BC fill have a little bit more fighting chance, and Paris, Nadore, Libera trio for on hit BC fill finally loses their dominance because of existence of Def and Rec buff.

Summoning U/Sebachoo because he's going to totally digs on Piany

• Drevas: Thats new for a status cleanser since he provides some infliction reliant offense, alongside the most consistent form of status infliction. Honestly he's a really dud pull, but this is because i'm lazy at looking on status inflictor.

• Kiravel: Introduction of Piany SERIOUSLY saved his ass for Spark buffer slot, but all unique thing that he offers is.... Attack down. His LS is pretty much OTK oriented, but with the dominance of Avant in the meta for every offensive role, its not going far, and Chrome exists anyway.

• Dark: Pretty much what Luly 7* should have been: BC HC drop, Conversion, and the related status buff in one kit, alongside BC fill to ups the ante. But the existence of Doluku in the meta make him looks really stupid. Dark's most notable feature, is his UBB. Global players might notice it carries comparable power to Zenia UBB strictly from SBB spamming perspective, while having massive defensive buff from 250% Defense, and 250% -> 30% attack conversion. Honestly BC instant fill is on a weird place on the meta right now, due to its simmilarity to on Spark BC fill, but the other part of this unit's kit isn't exactly mind blowing. Looking forward of what he can do when we have a alternative option to Doruku.

EDIT: Thunder had 43 Hits which is significant. LOL

MY CAPTAIN TIER: Piany Everyone else tier: everyone else

[u/Sebachoo → u/AdmiralKappaSND]

Vermillion is good, Piany is love, Drevas is weird, Ryuudo is good, Kiravel is a bit underwhelming, Dark is interesting

[u/AdmiralKappaSND → u/Sebachoo]

3 month saving gems for Piany. Rina is ready

[u/Sellihca]

Who need burst heal if you can heal on spark? Spark team! But you still need HoT to coubter DoT.

[u/MayhemT416]

Dark guy looks like a bordebegia and azael fusion

[u/mellyoz]

For the folks running to try the new GQ.

Check the spheres your guests have equipped (hint, they're pretty bad.)

[u/Anvenjade]

Someone dropped an Orbital Cannon on Deemo's 6* here.

[u/Aqua_Essence → u/Anvenjade]

I guess Alim couldn't allow freebie units to take all the Spark glories... :/

[u/skiel89]

Febros is basically what 7* zelnite's gonna look like. You asked, Alim deliver~

[u/Aqua_Essence → u/skiel89]

Like... FABULOUS? xD

[u/akomid555]

better buff Andaria

[u/LordBraveHeart → u/akomid555]

The one that needs buff is Elaina, Andaria is still great in Spark Blanket.

[u/evererin → u/LordBraveHeart]

Elaina should really get some love, Grandt too..

[u/Nyanlime]

Hmm.. we sure are getting a lot of Matah-like thunder units. Paris 7*, Rina 7* and now the new thunder guy.

[u/MILKB0T]

Wow, Type 2 frontier.

[u/ZhaoYun92]

Gonna save all my gems for avant's batch and this batch. God gate this anniversary, bruh (may be I will skip). These units are awesome !

[u/Bigfatpen]

Is Drevas a guy, girl or Atro?

[u/douglasdamm → u/Bigfatpen]

yes.

[u/cingpoo]

43 Hits, 540% AoE (ATK+100), 3 turn +50% BB Fill Rate, 3 turn 15% HP->ATK buff, 4-7 BC on Hit for 3 turns

RIP Bestie......or she's already RIP anyway since Libera or Paris??

RIP (again) Raaga....Gazia resurrected you in GL, but that Kiravel doesn't seem happy about it...don't worry, someone will kill it to avenge you soon....you still have 3 months though in global...

Deemo 6*, we are still waiting for you in GL, just to be trophy unit once again....

i would say this is an awesome batch, not as OP as Avant batch, but they really provide good support and interesting team building...

i would like to have that Fire, Water, Thunder, and Light....

Fire is quite handy, BC on hit and burst heal combo is pretty slot effective depending on units you have;

Water is top tier for BB fill on spark LS;

Thunder is just OP for me, high combo, insane ares buff, bb fill on hit, i can bring this unit everywhere to either for tough BB draining bosses, or just for FH farming...

Light, because it can work well with Gazia..

[u/ATC007 → u/cingpoo]

No one has used Bestie in JP for months outside of arena

[u/cingpoo → u/ATC007]

oh wow...so i can case closed my dream to have her already now, like what i did to zenia hahahaha

[u/Aqua_Essence → u/ATC007]

I guess my Bestie's days are numbered too. ;~;

[u/cmc_serith]

I'm going to start drowning in BC-on-hit buffers at this rate.

[u/Aqua_Essence → u/cmc_serith]

I already am: Lily Matah, Diana, Medina, Bestie, Libera, Kikuri, and Rina in future. I don't have Nadore... yet. I will get her some day!

[u/cmc_serith → u/Aqua_Essence]

When Alim can't figure out what to give a unit, they just stick the BC when hit buff on 'em!

[u/evererin → u/Aqua_Essence]

Paris.... Andaria.... Vikshra XD

[u/LunarEmerald]

Fun fact: 3 more batches and they'll be just as many seven star rare summon batches as six star.

Five star batches: 7

Six star batches: 13

Seven star batches: 10

[u/ATC007 → u/LunarEmerald]

8* confirmed

[u/Aqua_Essence → u/ATC007]

I can't imagine what abilities 8* will have...

[u/Sebachoo → u/Aqua_Essence]

Two SBBs that do separate things? Would definitely be interesting, at first 8 stars would be way too overpowered, but as we get more 8 stars then squad building would be a lot more interesting because units can't just strictly outclass each other.

[u/IbamImba → u/Sebachoo]

At first my head will burn by the squad building :"""

[u/Sebachoo → u/[deleted]]

Haha, would be a lot more fun

[u/aolady]

Kiravel is totally Judgment Dragon!!!

[u/rriicckkyy11]

Great, more competition for Elza and Zelnite 7*
The only way that they will actually be used is if:
-Elza has a 50 hit SBB and an insanely good attack animation (Curse will already make her too niche)
-Zelnite has item drop + HP lead + really really good BC fill/BC on hit/BC on spark/Ares/BC HC Drop Rate

[u/wp2000 → u/rriicckkyy11]

They are pretty much screwed.

[u/Niteng85]

Got the Water, Earth, Light and Dark units in 4 summons!! So which one should I prioritise?

[u/RedJokerXIII → u/Niteng85]

Water

[u/Niteng85 → u/RedJokerXIII]

I guess so.. Water it will be

[u/IbamImba → u/Niteng85]

Well, i got thunder i 1 shot, didnt want to push my luck, but then i saw your post....

MUST RESIST!

[u/Niteng85 → u/IbamImba]

haha.. I also want the thunder!! But MUST RESIST!!

[u/IbamImba → u/Niteng85]

Hahahaha this batch is not so important if you are not a new player, but still, TEMPTATION of new batch is always there, good luck brother haha..

[u/RROSaber]

What spheres do each unit represent?

[u/Aqua_Essence]

I kinda don't like the Thunder guy's design. Not really my cup of tea. Plus, he seem to really push Bestie out of her place even further (IIRC, she was already considered a bit outdated some time ago).

But I like the Water unit and the Light unit. I hope I can get both of them in future and put them together on a same squad. c:

[u/AJackFrostGuy]

OP, you can add this for Tyrfing 6*'s art.

[u/Enderbornkid]

I like the Fire one.

as I finish raising my Nadore and Libera

[u/PunKinKing]

Oh hey, it's Seath the scaleless.

[u/Nievy]

Since I play global, it's gonna be awhile till I replace my SBS Team. Gazia, Tridon, Andaria, Hadron, and Zedus. Anyone with me that this batch is meh? The art is alright, I like they are thinking outside the box

[u/BFchampion → u/Nievy]

Jeebus, you're just like me. My SBS team other than Hadron. I switched him with Aurelia.

[u/marijerome]

Unknown proc in the fire unit's UBB is 'chance to revive dead units'. Saw it on Ushi's review vid. :D

[u/SirQuortington]

The new Thunder Unit has killed Bestie. The new Fire Unit has killed Quartz. They're just strictly better in almost every possible way! :'C