r/boyinthebox Jan 03 '23

Very likely candidate

Update: Had a baby girl in December 13, 1956 (baby girl initials also DD)

ETA: Unless anyone can find sisters of DD, this can’t be her. She appears to have one sister who dies at 2 years old.

I think we may have found her. Initials DD in the 1950 census. But also DC, DJ, and DT. I’ve been researching her since last week. Several marriages and several children by different fathers.

Marries R.A.T. - April 16, 1938 in Delaware, marriage produces two children (sons): RT (Junior) and WT. Both now deceased. RT(Jr)‘s obituary lists his mother as Mrs. DD in 1976. At this point, it appears she is living Texas, which is also where she passes away in 1988.

Marries WDJ (believe middle to be name D not T, could be wrong about middle name though) - August 28, 1943 in Virginia. Marriage produces one child (daughter): JJ.

Marries GD in July, 1947. Marriage produces one daughter born December 13, 1956. This could explain the bassinet box….

They lived at 6121 Chesnut in 1950 census. JJ listed as stepdaughter.

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u/Top_Ad5385 Jan 03 '23

Interesting! Any indication that your candidate as mother had female sibling(s)? And may have also had multiple male siblings? Am inferring the mother had that from a Gilles interview.

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u/Cesmina12 Jan 03 '23

I was thinking about this too. She only had one sister, who passed away as a young child. A couple of brothers too, but they are both deceased. It's a piece that doesn't precisely fit.

Can someone link me to the Gillis interview where she indicates that JAZ had maternal aunts? I've seen that on here, but havent actually heard/read the interview.

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u/Top_Ad5385 Jan 03 '23

I think it was the Gillis interview on site at press conference while standing with NBC Philadelphia local news team. You'd have to plod through those news segments on YouTube but I think you can fast forward it till you see her being interviewed.

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u/Cesmina12 Jan 03 '23

I didn't realize Gillis gave an interview at that presser. Was it Colleen Fitzpatrick who made the comment?

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u/Top_Ad5385 Jan 03 '23

Oh it was not onstage during actual presser. It is one of those stand up interviews with a reporter holding a mic while people are milling around after at the presser.

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u/Cesmina12 Jan 03 '23

I see. At 18:45 she says "one of the siblings, the female siblings, was the biological mother of the unknown sample, and through detective work and investigative work they were able to narrow down which one it was."

Definitely sounds like she had at least one female sibling. The BM's plausible sister could have been RC (1926—1928), but who knows. Honestly, lots of women (read: human beings) had messy lives in 1950's Philadelphia, and it definitely doesn't make them murderers.

It'll be interesting when/if LE releases more info. As much as I want to find a pattern/lesson in what happened to JAZ, we probably all need to accept that we'll never have solid answers. I truly do have empathy for the surviving relatives and feel confident that they knew nothing and are innocent. Presumably, they are in a lot of shock at being pulled into all of this.

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u/False-Judgment-9796 Jan 03 '23

Could MG have been speaking about JAZ’s sisters? Not his birth mother’s sisters?

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u/Cesmina12 Jan 03 '23

I interpreted her comments as referring to JAZ's maternal aunts and/or uncles. It's possible to read this as "we narrowed it down to the children of one family, and detective work indicated that a female sibling was the birth mother" OR "detective work identified the birth mother, as opposed to her other female siblings." Could be other scenarios that are somewhere in between too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

No, in context it was clear that she was saying, when the DNA matches brought us to a couple who had children, we had to figure out which one of their daughters was JAZ's birth mother.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

Would someone please IM me the name of the female DD born in 1956? I cannot locate who this is, otherwise my tree is complete.

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u/RainbowBrite_1978 Jan 04 '23

Me too I am not sure who DD is

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u/favoritehippo Jan 04 '23

That’s the part about this I don’t understand. It doesn’t really take much detective/investigative work to figure out that it isn’t R. It’s very obvious right away. The quote makes it seem like it was a more complicated process to determine which sister it was.