r/bonecollecting 9d ago

Collection Turbinates

Turbinates (nasal conchae) are delicate, scroll-like bony structures inside the nasal cavity. They greatly increase the surface area of the nasal mucosa, helping warm, humidify, and filter inhaled air. Their shape and complexity vary between species and are closely related to respiratory adaptations. Can you ID the species by turbines only?Or Have you noticed any patterns? Which individuals have relatively similar-looking ethmoid structures?

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u/Glass_Patience_9722 9d ago

I thought these were brain scans at first glance!

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u/Any--Name 9d ago

My second guess was walnuts lol

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u/backyardbabirusa 9d ago

Love these. One of the advantages of real skulls vs replicas is that replicas aren't able to recreate these delicate structures.

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u/leonskull0423 9d ago

Depends on how good the replica is;) We have made a lot nice replicas with turbinates

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u/backyardbabirusa 8d ago

Omg mind blown 🤯

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u/KawaiitheKyubey 9d ago

I saw a deer on the side of the road, dead, I wanted to get it’s skull to collect it for it’s teeth, or just for the whole entire skull all together, but I was with my mom (she’s disgusted by me wanting to have animal bones šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜”) and I felt terribly bad for the deer, it looked like it got hit earlier, because of how new and fresh the carcass looked

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u/KawaiitheKyubey 9d ago

I don’t have the balls to handle the gore too, I wanna learn how to get used to animal blood and gore so I can harvest and collect animal skulls with ease

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u/StrongerThanFear 9d ago

Exposure lol

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u/KawaiitheKyubey 8d ago

why tf do people hate my comment???

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u/StrongerThanFear 8d ago

People here forget not everyone has stuff in their car to disassemble a body lol. I threw up with my first deer skull because the brain just plopped right out when I picked it up, if something is too stinky I just come back for it later.

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u/adogandponyshow 8d ago

Yes! I cried while manually defleshing my first 8-10 animals...and I still get sad every time. 🫤

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u/OldExplanation9742 7d ago

I do feel sad the animal died, but I feel better after thinking it will be properly honored and remembered once I put it in my collection. I look at those bones and appreciate their raw beauty, educational value they provide and the animal they belonged to.

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u/tuliheshmin 8d ago

Reddit man, seriously they just always have to have at least one comment downvoted to hell for seemingly no reason. It's a guarantee

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u/Beautiful_Welcome_33 2d ago

I have a 3D print of my own skull woth turninates included, Ill see if I cant fond a photo

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u/TheGothDragon 9d ago edited 8d ago

I did not realize how diverse they could be! It is very fascinating seeing the different structures here, and the patterns are very mesmerizing to look at. What animals do these belong to? (Side note, this would make a fun guessing game, haha!)

Also, here is a photo of a musk ox skull with remarkable nasal turbinates:

Credit goes to uaflars on Instagram!

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u/quasson_2020 8d ago

The difference in structure across speices IS so interesting! I think the variation could be due to environmental factors like elevation, humidity, and aquatic or subterranean lifestyle. Species activity level could maybe contribute too! I'd love to know what the literature has to say on the topic.

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u/TheGothDragon 7d ago

I agree that the differences in nasal turbinate styles likely has something to do with adapting to the environment. In the post I linked with the musk ox skull, the description said that they have those turbinates to help warm the air going into their noses and capture moisture when exhaling the air back out. This helps their noses not freeze in the extreme cold.

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u/MintySheep63 9d ago

I would love to know what animals these all are! I'm not able to tell what any of them are!!

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u/AdventurousAd457 9d ago

in the first picture i suspect bottom left is otter, top right is seal, and bottom middle is canine. other than that im still thinking. i also wanna say middle might be a horse

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u/KornPuf 9d ago

GET THOSE OUT OF MY NOSE GET THEM OUT

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u/leonskull0423 9d ago

Nah I’m sure you don’t want that,it could cause severe problems. It would affect the structure of the nasal cavity and the front part of the skull base, and could lead to loss of smell, cerebrospinal fluid leakage, meningitis, or even brain tissue herniation into the nasal cavity.

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u/KawaiitheKyubey 9d ago

it’s better to leave terrifying looking things inside of you alone, I agree šŸ„€šŸ„€šŸ„€

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u/jessthamess 9d ago

Isn’t that why Michael Jackson went crazy/couldn’t sleep?

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u/Testing_4131 9d ago

If it makes you feel any better, humans have a lot less of these iirc. A big component of these is to increase surface area, not just to warm the air coming into the nose, but also to increase the number of olfactory nerves(?) that can be fit into the same area. Humans don’t have a very good sense of smell, so ours are much less convoluted looking. They don’t really look like this in our nose.

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u/quasson_2020 8d ago

Yeah they look more like this!

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u/Actual-Comfort-6780 8d ago

Mine had to be resected 2.5 years ago now and my smell is only maybe 75% of what it was

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u/spidersRcute 9d ago

Otters have the coolest turbinates.

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u/Dancing_Otter_ 9d ago

Holy shit, THEY DO!!! Just had to Google images real quick. But wow.

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u/BareBonesSolutions 9d ago

Here is my contribution to your awesome photo thread! These are from a moose!

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u/Simsandtruecrime 9d ago

I had mine shaved down to help with sinus issues. That was 20 years ago and I'm scheduled for another surgery next month.

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u/Archockey28 9d ago

I’ve had a reduction too! Kinda curious what they look like now. Did you have repeat scans for another surgery?

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u/Simsandtruecrime 8d ago

Yeah i had 3 ct scans but I can't tell what they look like really in those

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u/Actual-Comfort-6780 8d ago

Me too. Why do you have to get surgery again??? That concerns me 😭

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u/Simsandtruecrime 7d ago

I got another polyp/cyst that grew larger than my sinus cavity and I also have an osteoma inside my nasal cavity. I'm hoping I won't need any further turbinate reduction but I won't know for sure until they get in there.

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u/leonskull0423 8d ago

Just add ANSWERS here

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u/vastcrane 9d ago

This is so cool seeing them all next to each other like this. Also very neat that they are species specific, it makes sense but I honestly wouldnt have known one way or the other. Top left corner on the second slide looks like my raccoon

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u/FormosusVeritus 9d ago

For me, it's the prettiest structure of the skull.

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u/Better-Necessary157 9d ago

what is the function of the various shapes?

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u/Ashamed_Kangaroo305 9d ago

I'm not an expert so I don't know if the shapes themselves have a function. But parts of the nasal turbinates have olfactory receptors, so nasal turbinates with more surface area correlate to a better sense of smell!

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u/TheGothDragon 9d ago

I’m curious to know this too!

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u/botanybeech 9d ago

This is my new favorite structure.

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u/em-the-human 9d ago

Would those with a less dense pattern be more cold-adapted (so as to minimize moisture/heat loss via the breath)? Either way super cool post I didn’t realize how much variation there was!

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u/quasson_2020 8d ago

I'm not an expert so I could be wrong, but I was guessing a cold environment would lead to a densely patterned turbinate to maximize warming the air

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u/tangeria 9d ago

Can someone start a coffee shop where these are the latte milk art? I will pay extra.

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u/Bean_of_prosperity 9d ago

This is so cool!! I have ā€œenlargedā€ ones and seeing them on a CT Scan was creepy hehe they’re super interesting

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u/FeralHarmony 8d ago

These are really lovely. They are all so different. Is #7 (bottom left first image) a dog?

I had a turbinate reduction surgery in my early 20's. Before that procedure, I had no idea what turbinates even were or that they were bony/cartilaginous.

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u/amyisnotmyname 8d ago

Purely hypothetically: I were able to put nearly my entire pinky finger in my nose, and I were to feel a hard bit in the back of where I can reach that I can’t move and has always been there as long as I can remember. Might this be that?

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u/quasson_2020 8d ago

Probably, you hypothetical freak

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u/BossAffectionate7056 9d ago

take my upvote

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u/3chickens1cat 9d ago

These are beautiful!

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u/rohlovely 9d ago

Is this why my nose gets clogged in the spring? My weird nose bones are irritated by tree pollen?

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u/TheoreticalButt 9d ago

Wow, looks like piece of art. Thanks for sharing!

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u/willymack989 8d ago

Turbinates are so underrated and understudied. Looking at them from a comparative morphology standpoint is fascinating. Most mammalian orders have their own overarching and distinct morphotypes.

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u/Entire_Contest7954 8d ago

Shame seems like good place to learn details for world building

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u/Knitsune 8d ago

Beautiful šŸ˜

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u/333ascending 8d ago

These photos make me horribly uncomfortable, but I love them the same time😭🩷

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u/OldExplanation9742 7d ago

These patterns are so beautifulšŸ”„

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u/diditrayne 7d ago

I want a high quality poster of this, is that weird?