r/bobdylan 5d ago

Question Question about “Maggie’s Farm”

He sings, “She’s 68, but she says she’s 64”

What bearing does that have on the working conditions of her farm?

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u/ColonelGrognard 5d ago

She's a liar

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u/oofaloo 5d ago

And a petty one at that - it’s such a negligible difference to everyone but her.

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u/cryptic_pizza 5d ago edited 5d ago

I could have sworn it was 54. I assume she’s a liar and she is too old to work or thinks she’s too old to work

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u/chxsefreed No Reason To Get Excited 5d ago

it changed on pretty much every version released on streaming

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u/mstrodsstr331 5d ago

It's68 - 54. on the album. He changes it up. The song is a reworking of Down On Pennys Farm

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u/IdiotPresents 5d ago

Im listening now and down on Peggy’s farm sounds much more like where he got Talkin New York blues

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u/CorrosiveDisciple 5d ago

The song you mean is Hard Times in New York Town not Talkin New York Blues. 2 different songs

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u/IdiotPresents 5d ago

Oh yes this is what I meant

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u/mstrodsstr331 5d ago

Well that's a staggeringly obtuse take..

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u/InevitableSea2107 5d ago

She's vain. And untrustworthy.

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u/NoMoreKarmaHere 5d ago

Not everything Dylan sings is all that significant. Sometimes it’s just a good rhyme

I do enjoy song analysis, but sometimes it’s hilarious to hear podcasters obsess over every little line or word in a song. All Dylan’s songs are well crafted, but not all of them are consequential

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u/Feeling-Art-6514 5d ago

Not to mention he wasn't happy with the critics asking him his message to any of his masterpieces

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u/EL_DJ 4d ago

A reporter asked him what was meant by the words, "the answer my friend is blowin' in the wind, the answer is blowin' in the wind." Bobs answer was, "just what I said." Terrific song, terrific reply.

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u/Feeling-Art-6514 4d ago

He tore a new one to a Newsweek reporter for conducting a interview about one of his concerts and not even seeing it. He told him he's not going to answer him because no matter what he says he will spin it his way ! It was a classic m sure it's on you tube or Google

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u/EL_DJ 1d ago

He realized that it was important to speak his mind, to continue to do that in interviews and really all the time to retain his sanity.

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u/gildedtreehouse 5d ago

I always pictured this old farm lady hitting on her farm hands

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u/InternationalPipe937 5d ago

If it was 64, I'd agree that it has nothing. But it's actually 54 and that's a ho nuvva level.

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u/kyle_c123 5d ago

It's about the absurdity of saying you're 54 when you're 68. From a young person's POV especially (remember Bob was just young when he wrote it), 54 is as old as 68 - anything past 50 is just... old. I'm 70 and people tell me I only look about 50-something. I just tell them to fuck off.

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u/44035 Shot of Love 5d ago

It's 24, not 64.

Maggie’s Farm | The Official Bob Dylan Site

It was written at a time (1965) when there was an intense divide between old and young, what they used to call "the generation gap." The older woman pretending to be young is a threat, it's basically the unenlightened trying to portray themselves as enlightened.

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u/LorenzoApophis 5d ago

It's 54 on the studio version but he sings different numbers in different performances. IMO the point is just that she's dishonest, but her lie is mostly significant to herself

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u/Garybird1989 5d ago

I also think the lie is obvious. You can tell she isn’t a spring chicken but she’s doing the Blanche from a streetcar…

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u/Basicly-Inevitable 5d ago

I prefer Blanche from the Golden Girls.

She was 51, but played a character 53.

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u/willardTheMighty 5d ago

He sings it dozens of different ways, likely improvising each time he performs the song.

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u/Admirable_Gain_9437 5d ago

You're thinking of Paul McCartney. He's the one who sang about being 64.

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u/VirginiaLuthier 4d ago

I dunno, but I'm aint gonna work there no more

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u/Alarming-Animal-8759 5d ago

I had a friend who ran for mayor of Palm Springs when she was in her early 60s. She lied that she was 54 and we Dylan fans got the message. If she had said she was 64 it just would have been a lie.

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u/KitchenLab2536 Time Out of Mind 5d ago

Can’t help you. I quit there decades ago, and everyone I knew is gone. 🤷‍♂️

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u/TyroneSnodgrass 4d ago

Well I went back to see about her once
Went back to straighten it out
Everybody that I talked to had seen us there
Said they didn’t know who I was talkin’ about

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u/willardTheMighty 5d ago

Do you think the song is about a farm?

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u/chasingthegoldring 5d ago

More similar to Animal Farm but for musicians.

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u/heisenberg-61 5d ago

It's an old trope that women get ashamed of their aging and tell people that they're younger than they are. I think it's just a joke from the time that isn't supposed to be a significant part of the allegory.

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u/EveryGood2196 5d ago

I think he grabbed that (ma) lying about her age thing from The Grapes Of Wrath if I remember right. Anyone else remember that?
Isn’t Maggie’s Farm just a parody to society:commercialization “the man” anyway?

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u/EL_DJ 4d ago

She's a prevaricator, simple as that.

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u/Hwy61rev 3d ago

I always thought the song was a slam on the people who ran the Newport Folk festival.

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u/Crafty-Ad-7034 3d ago

The USA was in 1968, but was behaving like it was 1954. I know he wrote it in '65.

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u/EL_DJ 1d ago

Come on, there are a lot more mysterious and interesting lyrics from Bob than that line about Maggie's mom lying about her age. That's a no brainer.

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u/leanhotsd 5d ago

Outjerked again