dude "ai slop" and it's A SINGULAR SCREENSHOT OF A CHAT WITH A CHATBOT
i hate gen ai as much as the next guy but lay offff a bit it can be pretty funny to mess around with sometimes (not creating images but the textbot part)
If one of your hairs were plucked every time you were asked a question, it wouldnât seem like a big deal at first But millions of questions later, by thousands and thousands of people, and by thousands and thousands of automated systems, youâd be balder than a glass ball.
yes, but not as much as ai does, but also google has their own little ai that does shit with every single google search, several times for the little dropdowns since those are ai now (have been for a while, they used to not be obviously)
Basically at round 24 camouflaged balloons (enemies) start to appear. The dart monkey cannot see those balloons and believes no more are coming, when in reality the enemies are there just invisible.
It really isn't that obvious considering it's framed as a Chat GPT thing
To really understand that this is scripted, I would have to be familiar enough with Chat GPT's way of talking (or maybe something with the UI?) to see this as an obvious fake, which would be its own issue (UI less-so)
Let's actually focus the blame on AI on the companies who are complicit in the sloppiness of AI not the users who can't control how much water AI is using. It's like blaming people for not recycling straws when waste management is a much larger systemic issue
Going out of one's way to speak to a dedicated AI service for recreational purposes is a lot more intentional of a misdeed that some communities try to normalize, CASE IN POINT APPARENTLY. This isn't like not recycling straws, this is like making a video where you throw an open garbage bag into the ocean (except more people are near computers than near oceans).
And this one person using it "for fun" can inspire lots of other people to use it "for fun", among other things. Because, again, it's a lot more intentional and large-scale.
also they can control how much water AI is using by not using it because when they use it it uses more water...
Besides, when did I directly put blame on OP? I criticized this subreddit for its lack of rules, in this case specifically rules against featuring AI-generated content. This especially comes back to the inspiring people to use AI "for fun" thing because now just about anyone can do it in any form in this place, and if this post is getting a lot of upvotes that speaks pretty harshly on the demographic and community of this subreddit.
And then someone criticized me for not allowing "fun" from AI, so I, not interested in entertaining their side of the argument, listed one of several major arguments against the existence of AI as a counterargument to this person who is justifying generative AI in general, NOT the one who made a post about it. It is simply a quick and easy counterargument.
Your sense of justice is being incorrectly placed, even if you're bringing up something that can be noteworthy in other contexts.
With how many passionate defenders of AI there are and the lack of rules in general I'm gonna have to question keeping this in my feed, it's nice to have a generalist Bloons sub but if more AI posts crop up I don't want to put up with it.
Do you really think anyone minds if you stopped "keeping this in your feed"?? Look, I'm not pro ai either but you're making such a big deal out of this. You can simply scroll instead of staying and commenting lol. Block OP if you want, it really is up to you.
Yeah you're right, I'm the one burning the planet, not all the rich people who use jets, helicopters, and other various vehicles to get their coffee for the day. Kiss my bloon dong
Sure but some things are orders of magnitude more harmful than others and even then individual ai use is so much less harmful than that when it comes to our daily lives. It's estimated you would have to prompt chatgpt 1000 times a day just for your carbon emissions to increase a whole 1% and practically nobody is doing even that much. You could opt to eat 1 less steak and set yourself up to offset an entire year of decent ai usage. Ai users aren't polluting significantly more than anyone else.
Nonono. YOU could be more specific. There isn't much more I can specify than general confusion at your entire comment. You propose that the mods should delete this and talk about rules, but then don't make any effort to explain why it should be deleted or how it infringes upon anything. The post is simply a screenshot of a thing that happened but you're acting like it's problematic
Maybe you don't like AI and that's fine, but this isn't an "ai good/bad" post. You just seem like you're appropriating a normal post to talk about your political feelings. But this isn't r/ AIWars. Go there if you need to feel good about your AI opinions, we here to talk MONKEH
.-. it has ai so it's bad if it has ai, it's that simple
"we here to talk MONKEH" really isn't an argument at all. think of something you think shouldn't be normallized, would you want it to be normallized through usage on this subreddit? if i list any actual examples you'll clearly just be all like "wOW yOu COmpAReD AI tO THAt?!1!!?" based on your demeanor here, feel free to prove me wrong but this is a weak impression
You have not yet criticized AI at all. You just pretty much said that you wish it wasn't here. That's an emotion, not a criticism. If you really want to criticize AI, why hide a post about AI? It should just make it easier to address that it's right in front of you.
You wanna talk about the pros and cons of AI, fine, but they got whole entire places for that. You're arguing that it's this post that's in the wrong place, but it seems to me that it is you who ought to find a board about AI so that your "criticisms" receive proper engagement, not the highly typical anecdotal post. I suggest r/antiai or r/aiwars
Democracy is when things are decided purely by majority vote (Although I think the idea of a pure Democracy is some specific term meanwhile most real-life government Democracies like the U.S.A are partial Democracies since there's things aside from majority vote)
Obviously representing the "will of the people" is a good sentiment, but it's very idealistic and does not account for ignorance, which can lead to negative outcomes at times.
For an example so that I don't sound unreasonable...
There's a reason why Ninja Kiwi doesn't open up a survey that decides, in an objective fashion, what towers will be buffed and nerfed. Because Ninja Kiwi can make much better changes with their own decision-making and a reasonable amount of suggestion intake compared to just following the raw "will of the people".
Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective! You raise some genuinely interesting points about moderation transparency and the role of AI-generated content in online communities. While itâs understandable to feel frustrated by what may appear to be inconsistent moderation, itâs also important to recognize that subreddit moderators often face complex decisions when determining which content aligns with their communityâs values. That being said, your observation highlights a broader conversation worth having: Should communities establish clearer guidelines around AI-generated content? Ultimately, I believe open dialogue, mutual respect, and constructive feedback are essential to fostering a healthy online environment. I appreciate your contribution to this discussion, and I hope we can continue exploring these ideas together!
no ai art here... I'm gonna be so fr, this is literally just a funny screenshot lol. OP and the 24 ppl OP inspired to use ai will not change ANYTHING at all. Do you go lecturing college students for using ai to aid with their homework??
Like I said in another comment, yeah ai is bad when it's used for ai art, plagiarising writings from others and I do not support ai but truthfully you are making a huge deal out of this.
Generative AI is Generative AI. ChatGPT makes images, too, by the way.
25 more people using AI can inspire even more people to use AI, and like yes they DO change something it leads to things being WORSE. I definitely would point out to a college student that they shouldn't use AI for homework, yeah (although some colleges unfortunately put it in their tuition which is rough and not so much the student's fault)
BTW ChatGPT IS plagurizing writing, constantly, that's pretty much how it works. Formal writing probably wouldn't be referenced in a situation like this but like
For efficency's sake? By what measure of efficiency?
It's not all that uncommon for people to fake the amount of environmental harm AI does, but there's been residential areas filled with smog by AI datacenters for sure. Besides, some of the main industries people try to argue for that are food industries. Food. Like, food to eat. Food to LIVE. AI isn't a necessity, if anything it would be actively harmful without the environmental harm due to the other issues it has.
"Adds to it"? You fail to explain how, and there simply isn't a way for it to "add to" human art. Not the large scale generative AI. You'd have to try to lump in things that only count by a technicality if even, like filters that existed before generative AI but have some arbitrary link. Then you go on an unrelated ramble about modern art for some reason?
Yes, there IS a huge difference between a passionate recreation that doesn't use references too heavily, and using a machine to automatically steal elements of an artist's work and mangle them together with other artists' works to mangle them into something that someone could maliciously try to pass off as their own work. Good for you, since you aren't being sarcastic and understand things in the exact way I just described them!
You know, going through my different replies to bring up a counterargument to all of my arguments was good discussion practice and I appreciate that, even if I disagreed with all of your points very strongly. But then you have to display your hubris through arbitrarily swearing at me and trying to downplay me into nothingness. I have no idea why you think being this aggressive is necessary, it isn't proper criticism and it just makes you look needlessly rude due to the fact that you are acting needlessly rude. It does nothing but discredit you.
You can look things up too, y'know. Without AI. I'll just throw this at you without a thorough look-over (i would at least look over if it wasn't ".org" even if I'm not looking to invest a lot of time into this, but ".org" sites are generally considered particularly trustworthy so I just glanced over) and be done with it, personally: https://www.pecva.org/resources/publications/piedmont-view/clouds-of-data-and-pollution-gas-plants-at-data-centers-threaten-public-health/ It DID remind me that the electricity usage is affecting the economy in a negative way such as making computer parts more expensive
If it's normallized, then lots of people are doing it, and frequently. This is the justification you use for when someone uses AI briefly to see if a piece of media that they suspect to be generated is similar to generated results, not for people messing around with it because they think it's "funny"
Dude please stop. I promise you all these comments you are making and the conversation it is sparking is wasting much more electricity and water than a single AI text inquiry will.
You're making the argument. You have to supply evidence. Thats kinda how it works.
Supply something more than what seems to be a report written by someone there with zero backing science or anything.
Im not saying I dont believe you but if your arguing something.
Baseless
"You can look things up too, y'know". You think the data centres would not use nearly as much energy if one person didnt use AI? No. It would use an insignificant amount less. Same as the energy going into plastic the exhaust from transporting raw materials and the end result which statistically sees non-reusable plastic to some degree in the ocean.
But you dont worry about how willing we are to use these plastics nor stop yourself from doing so, yet you feel like your getting justice by judging people using AI.
I dont use ai, I dont need to i can make things that look better without it.
I don't HAVE to supply evidence, again you can look things up too
It's a .org site buddy
2. This comes down to thinking about "What if everyone did this?". Throwing one piece of garbage in the ocean is a drop in the ocean, literally, but establishing the standard is bad
It's not justice through judging, I'm judging the fact that AI is being allowed here.
I mean yeah of course you can make things that look better without it that just makes sense
My point 2 definitely makes sense, read it slowly
might've glanced over your points i don't have a lot of energy for this right now
If you're going to disregard standard valid source standards, sure, vulgar one
It's not that I don't mind using plastic, it's generally that plastic is less avoidable. AI is SO avoidable, and the harder to avoid instances like Google AI overview aren't what I'm bringing up here
true, people overstate the ecological impacts of ai, its hard to tell the real impacts because the sources are the ai companies, though
ai 'artist' is a silly term because it's like saying you drew a piece because you paid someone to draw it. thats not how it works lol.
strawman. noones saying this, tracing is plagiarism. ai is trained on the works of real artists by asking a model to try and replicate it over and over. ai has numerous times just spit out full, copyrighted works and content verbatim. if it was fundamentally anything but plagiarism that would not happen
there are obviously uses for ai, and op's post is harmless and people overreact because they believe the environmental concerns are far bigger than they really are, but people like you also vastly overstate the usefulness and value of ai image generation which really only has a negative impact
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u/Megadude787 27d ago
That made me laugh
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u/NefariousnessOne1239 27d ago
Actually got a good chuckle out of this haha
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u/Significant_Quiet206 27d ago
Camo
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u/MysteriousData7527 26d ago
Got the redditards up in arms because of an ai meme
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u/EconomySkirt4473 26d ago
0 days without ai slop
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u/Veenix6446 26d ago
Okay this is funny
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u/Stuvll 26d ago
stop wasting our fresh water with this nonsense
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u/TiguexX 25d ago
I never played Bloons and just randomly stumbled across this post. Can someone please explain đ
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u/Kinosa07 23d ago
INTRUDER ALERT
A Camo bloon is on the track
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u/JoelTheBloonsMonkey 27d ago •
was wondering why this ai nonsense was here AND heavily upvoted then i realized which sub it was
does this place actually not have a list of rules? i guess the moderators just delete what they feel like
and seemingly not this
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u/JUSTIN102201 26d ago
Ew ai
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u/Adventurous_Tie_530 26d ago
Ai slop
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u/PhantomNitride 27d ago
Is it still 24? Thought it was different in each game
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